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Postby lloyd9988 » Sun Jan 01, 2012 5:02 pm

AimoAio:

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0:20 - 0:23 was a part I was offset by a little bit because I wasn't too sure why its there. 0:41 - 0:42 can have a 100% - 0% opacity going on during the zoom in. If it doesn't look good, than just do what you were doing before. :P Also, I notice a ghost frame is occurring after that girl snaps her fingers so just be aware of that. Other than that, looks great! Nearly ready for a final!


Taite:

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I love it! xD Something that you did could spice up the ending a bit: At 0:32 when the girl is at the stairs, you can just opacity the start at 100% then to 0% so it can match the mood with the piano. I think anywayz xD. Overall, it looks smexy! its almost finished


Great job guys, this MEP will be finished in no time! :D Time to finish up my part.
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Re: The Fame Monster - Lady Gaga MEP [FULL]

Postby AimoAio » Tue Jan 03, 2012 7:47 pm

Taite wrote:If you pay close attention to the lyrics at that part, (would you give it all up, could you give it all up, if I promise, boy, to you?), the "would you give it up" blah blah is her talking to herself about having to give up her past love, brown haired guy. The ring she receives from the blue haired guy, however, is her promise, essentially, to be with him. Though in that last scene that fades out, you can see her crying (in my eyes, over losing that past love). But she still keeps the ring on.

Yep, this was what I managed to understand after watching it the 2nd time. :3 It's not super clear so I would suggest a little colouring or even some tint of black and white to the past scenes to make it more distinguished from the other ones. But otherwise, it's great so far! :up:

MystykAMV wrote:and when will we get to see Niwa's track? :( I want to see that telephone track! D:

Oops he actually messaged me yesterday to let me know he was working on it today except I haven't been online till now and it's like 12:40am so maybe...tomorrow...XD
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Postby Taite » Tue Jan 03, 2012 11:52 pm

lloyd9988 wrote:Taite:

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I love it! xD Something that you did could spice up the ending a bit: At 0:32 when the girl is at the stairs, you can just opacity the start at 100% then to 0% so it can match the mood with the piano. I think anywayz xD. Overall, it looks smexy! its almost finished



Actually, I'm going to be changing that scene, but yeah I'll probably mess around with that a bit when I get to it :p I don't want to overload on fades though. Thanks (:

AimoAio wrote:Yep, this was what I managed to understand after watching it the 2nd time. :3 It's not super clear so I would suggest a little colouring or even some tint of black and white to the past scenes to make it more distinguished from the other ones. But otherwise, it's great so far! :up:


Yeah, that's true. I'm actually using blue to represent scenes in the past, I don't know if that's obvious. :?
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In the beginning, she meets the blur haired guy outside of the "club", or rather had. But when it zooms onto his face, the blue fades away, representing the transition to the present, where she meets him again (her surprise in the next scene gives further evidence).
Probably not, but I'll nonetheless add something there.
Because I've seen the anime, I know the sequence of events, and I know that after she decides to be with the blue haired guy and after doing the smex, she goes to see the browned haired guy, which is why it didn't have anything there initially.
But I think as the viewer, you are correct, and it doesn't mess with my overall vision of the track, so I'll probably mess with that a bit :p
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Re: The Fame Monster - Lady Gaga MEP [FULL]

Postby [madaraxD] » Wed Jan 04, 2012 6:44 am

I just sent my new beta :awesome:
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Re: The Fame Monster - Lady Gaga MEP [FULL]

Postby iCardioidAMV » Wed Jan 04, 2012 6:51 pm

So, I got my computer back~ Luckily, my progress was not lost. I finished editing last night and I'll be sending my beta in a couple of minutes.

In the meantime:

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As pretty much everybody has said, the scene at :01 doesn't match, but I think that's something easy to fix. Also, (another repeated thing) the Kanba clip needs to move a little. I agree with the pan Taite & AyumiNeko suggested. Other than that, I really love your part *O* Mawaru Penguindrum <3


AimoAio:
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Talk about flawless! :D I don't really see any problems with it besides the part where she snaps her fingers is a little weird to me. Great part though! 8D Shiki is one of my favorite anime.


lloyd:
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Basically what everyone else has said so far. Really good, though. <3


Taite:
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Gah! xD I can't really think of anything except to compliment it! It's really pretty!


Downloading madaraxD's beta right now~

EDIT: Finished watching the beta :D
madaraxD:
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Wow, that was really amazing! At the moment, I don't really have any complaints! I really liked the text you used 8D Let's just see what everyone else says~

Also, I have sent out my beta~!
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Postby AimoAio » Wed Jan 04, 2012 8:10 pm

Taite wrote:Yeah, that's true. I'm actually using blue to represent scenes in the past, I don't know if that's obvious. :?

Yep. This I managed to get.
Taite wrote:
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she goes to see the browned haired guy, which is why it didn't have anything there initially.

It was this bit at 0:21 with 2 scenes that I wasn't sure if it was happening in the present or past since you coloured the scene at 0:24(or maybe it was originally like this) so it looked like a past thing. I felt like it would have fit better if it was a past event anyway because then we see the ring afterwards.

Madara: I don't really have any complaints except a few things: make the feathering stronger for the cutter transition at 0:10 so it's not as noticeable. And I really love the text effects you did but that font just looks horrible to me. >__< I don't know if I'm the only one who has this issue or not so wait for the others opinions first. XD The coloured flash effect at 0:29 looks great, but a little too sharp so smooth it about a little bit.Oh and also a few of your scenes look mega blocky...namely 0:19, 0:20 and 0:24 - any chance of fixing this? Just minor changes really, when you've done those just send the final to me. ^^ Remember it's 848x480 and at 23.976fps lagarith. ^^

iCardioidAMV: This looks really nice, I like your scene selection. ^^ But you might want to smooth out your masking transitions a little more, they look really abrupt to me. And also I would remove the zooming effects at the start and focus on the lyric sync then when the song picks up 0:20 onwards, you can add the zooms in for the beats. If you're worried the pacing feels slow without the zoom effects then simply add some pan/camera movement to the scenes themselves - this normally works great with the lyrical parts of a song and helps create better impact. And also those little glowy circles you used should be made smoother - make them longer, lower opacity and a bigger increase in size. Btw 0:23ish was just perfect. :up: That scene + the zoom really made it feel like it was her heart that was beating in the song. I really liked it.
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Re: The Fame Monster - Lady Gaga MEP [FULL]

Postby CodeZTM » Wed Jan 04, 2012 8:17 pm

I will actually review all of these eventually. >_>
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Re: The Fame Monster - Lady Gaga MEP [FULL]

Postby Taite » Wed Jan 04, 2012 8:42 pm

@iCardioidAMV

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Wayy better than Working!! haha.
I think everything from :00 to :06 is kind of random. That's the only part that doesn't fit the mood you have going.
A lot of the little zoom/pans you do I think you should take out. Your track is already quite upbeat, and with those little jumps, it looks oversynced. Another thing I noticed is the amount of crossfades. In my personal belief, I don't think really short crossfades work well in any amv. I won't tell you at each and every place I think you should change it, but I'd aim for more hard cuts at larger beats to increase impact, but also get rid of this blending issue you have. Your source has a bit of blending, so crossfades don't help.

I want to say "if you do this, it will look a lott better" sooo bad, but I know everyone has their own tastes and I hate forcing my opinion on people xD

One specific suggestion I have though to spice up your track though is this:
At :12, you have the scene of her sitting on the bed at a distance, then you zoom into her face. What I'd do is keep the zoom that you have on the first distant scene of her on the bed, and remove the crossfade. Then, on the next clip, I'd add a 'levels' effect, increase the brightness on that clip, then fade it back to normal.

Now that's a very specific suggestion that I thought I'd offer up just to give you an idea as to how to make your track more interesting. Most of your track is pretty raw (which I looove, thank you <3 ), but you can add more variety and make it more interesting with simple effects like levels, blur, etc. It will also make it look more polished if you do that, especially if you remove some crossfades and pans. Because this song is so upbeat, that's why I'm suggesting this. I think the zooms are a little overkill at sooome places, but you really have the right idea going. And I love the fact that I've seen scenes in there that I haven't before in other same-anime amvs. It's really refreshing :p

Even though I wrote that much, it really isn't that bad, I'm just super detailed xD I really like it. And please please, if you don't want to take any of my suggestions, that's ok. Keep your editing-identity, I'm just telling you how I think it'd look better as a viewer :p
Good job!


@Aimo. Yeah, at :21, that was the present, after having had sex with the other guy. At :24, do you mean the scene of the brown haired guy smiling? I did color correct that to represent past, because in the scene at :21 where he pulls away, he's upset, and in the next scene you see she is too. The purpose of :24 being in the past was to show her thinking of him and how he used to be. She's remembering him in their/his happy days, further showing what she is giving up.
Also, since you can't see him clearly in the other scene, that was also an opportunity to show what he looked like so it wasn't a wtf moment, but primarily to show that she's sad at giving up him and what they used to have.
But yeah, I still think I'll make those scenes at :21 blue as well. Even though I see every single thing and what it means in here, it'd make more sense to do that for the viewer xp
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Re: The Fame Monster - Lady Gaga MEP [FULL]

Postby [madaraxD] » Thu Jan 05, 2012 1:39 pm

alright, thanks for the feedback, about the font, i need change it then?
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Re: The Fame Monster - Lady Gaga MEP [FULL]

Postby AimoAio » Thu Jan 05, 2012 4:08 pm

Well you can go ahead and experiment for now if you want or wait for the others responses first. XD I can send you a PM with a few recommendations that you can try out.
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Re: The Fame Monster - Lady Gaga MEP [FULL]

Postby [madaraxD] » Thu Jan 05, 2012 4:21 pm

thank you aimo, I'll see how it looks :D with ur recommendations
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Re: The Fame Monster - Lady Gaga MEP [FULL]

Postby iCardioidAMV » Thu Jan 05, 2012 5:30 pm

Thanks for the feedback~! I'll start working on correcting it right now :D

@AimoAio -
I'll work on the transitions~
I've never really tried pan/camera movement much (actually, this mep is my first time trying zooms too xD), but I guess I could try it out ;A;
Okay!

@Taite -
Okay then. I'll try to find something that fits better.
I think I know which areas you mean, so I'll get to fixing them 8D
Haha! I have no problem with you saying that since I generally like hearing others' opinions. 8D
Okay then! -will be trying out everyone's suggestions-
Also, can you explain this part:
Taite wrote:One specific suggestion I have though to spice up your track though is this:
At :12, you have the scene of her sitting on the bed at a distance, then you zoom into her face. What I'd do is keep the zoom that you have on the first distant scene of her on the bed, and remove the crossfade. Then, on the next clip, I'd add a 'levels' effect, increase the brightness on that clip, then fade it back to normal.

As in, keep the zoom, and when it (or as it) zooms into her face, add the levels effect?
(Just trying to understand so that I don't mess up xD)
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Re: The Fame Monster - Lady Gaga MEP [FULL]

Postby Taite » Thu Jan 05, 2012 8:21 pm

Well, on the first scene at :12, where you can see her sitting on the bed at a distance, you have a zoom on that clip. Leave that as it is and don't add anything. Then, (if after removing the crossfade) you have the second clip of just her upper body/face with no apparent effect on it. On that clip only, you add a level to it, increasing the brightness a little, and let it add a keyframe to that effect, making it go back to normal, but not too quick. You can mess with it.
That's just a suggestion of course, if it looks weird when you do it don't worry bout it :p Have fun with it
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Re: The Fame Monster - Lady Gaga MEP [FULL]

Postby iCardioidAMV » Thu Jan 05, 2012 9:01 pm

Oh, okay. Thanks for the suggestion! 8D
I tried it out and it looks much better than just the plain zoom (in my opinion at least).
I'll be sending out the corrected beta soon~
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Re: The Fame Monster - Lady Gaga MEP [FULL]

Postby Rider4Z » Thu Jan 05, 2012 9:42 pm

sorry for being a flake, i've just been discouraged cuz my footage isn't behaving. soon as i get back from ALA this weekend i'm going to jump on my track. my second beta/final is going to likely have a lot of differences than the first so i can get around the problems, but i promise it'll be a bomb opener.
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