Golden age of AMVs?

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Re: Golden age of AMVs?

Postby Phantasmagoriat » Mon Oct 10, 2011 3:07 pm

I remember the forums being very busy when I first joined the org.
Since then, I've noticed activity has slowly decreased each year.

Based on that, there was probably a peak <= 2006

Also:
Forum wrote:"Most users ever online was 436 on Mon Jan 24, 2005 8:47 pm"
... I think that's a pretty good indication of a peak... at least for the org...
I wish I could have been there. Was there something special about that date/time?
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Re: Golden age of AMVs?

Postby 8bit_samurai » Mon Oct 10, 2011 3:26 pm

Phantasmagoriat wrote:Also:
Forum wrote:"Most users ever online was 436 on Mon Jan 24, 2005 8:47 pm"
... I think that's a pretty good indication of a peak... at least for the org...
I wish I could have been there. Was there something special about that date/time?

I asked the same thing some time ago, and iirc, the conclusion was bots, or something along those lines.
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Re: Golden age of AMVs?

Postby AceD » Mon Oct 10, 2011 3:54 pm

Phantasmagoriat wrote:I remember the forums being very busy when I first joined the org.
Since then, I've noticed activity has slowly decreased each year.

Based on that, there was probably a peak <= 2006
You make it sounds like the world of anime fan made videos revolves around this website > lol. AMVs/MADs/whatever name you want to give to fan made videos are still flourishing and growing, the ORGs community started dissolving then perhaps, but thats a completely different topic...maybe you can ask yourself why people would want out of this community. Obviously not because it's a good one.
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Re: Golden age of AMVs?

Postby Phantasmagoriat » Mon Oct 10, 2011 4:04 pm

AceD wrote:You make it sounds like the world of anime fan made videos revolves around this website

I was aware of that:
Phantasmagoriat wrote:... I think that's a pretty good indication of a peak... at least for the org...
So either it did peak around that time, or the AMV-scene started to disperse elsewhere... (which is what I gather you are implying)
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Re: Golden age of AMVs?

Postby AceD » Mon Oct 10, 2011 4:16 pm

Topic - What would we consider the golden age of AMVs?

A > I remember the forums being very busy when I first joined the org.
Since then, I've noticed activity has slowly decreased each year.

>provoking my answer, but yes...i get what you mean either way, maybe i was twisting it a little. :ying:
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Re: Golden age of AMVs?

Postby BasharOfTheAges » Mon Oct 10, 2011 4:32 pm

8bit_samurai wrote:
Phantasmagoriat wrote:Also:
Forum wrote:"Most users ever online was 436 on Mon Jan 24, 2005 8:47 pm"
... I think that's a pretty good indication of a peak... at least for the org...
I wish I could have been there. Was there something special about that date/time?

I asked the same thing some time ago, and iirc, the conclusion was bots, or something along those lines.

Highly likely. I'd say that 800,000+ user number on the main page is probably half bots/spammers. Kinda surprised the most online number was that low considering.
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Re: Golden age of AMVs?

Postby Phantasmagoriat » Mon Oct 10, 2011 5:10 pm

BasharOfTheAges wrote:
8bit_samurai wrote:I asked the same thing some time ago, and iirc, the conclusion was bots, or something along those lines.
Highly likely. I'd say that 800,000+ user number on the main page is probably half bots/spammers. Kinda surprised the most online number was that low considering.
Regardless of the number, I think it still indicates a peak timeframe. (I don't know much about bots, but I assume there is a positive correlation between forum activity and # of bots...)


AceD wrote:but yes...i get what you mean either way, maybe i was twisting it a little. :ying:
Yeah, I should have been more clear, sorry, but you do raise some good questions:

What exactly happened after 2006?
(did the AMV-scene actually start to die off? Did it simply move elsewhere like YouTube (that's my guess)? But is it more active, and still growing? etc... )

...it's really hard to quantify this sort of thing... but the search results for "AMV" on youtube returned 43,000 results. I don't know what the results would be in 2006-present, but even that would fluctuate as videos get uploaded/taken-down... not to mention duplicate results...

man. if only everyone cataloged their AMV's on the org...

But that would make waaayyy toooo much sense. :dino:
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Re: Golden age of AMVs?

Postby MycathatesyouAMV » Mon Oct 10, 2011 5:40 pm

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Re: Golden age of AMVs?

Postby BasharOfTheAges » Mon Oct 10, 2011 6:18 pm

Phantasmagoriat wrote:
BasharOfTheAges wrote:
8bit_samurai wrote:I asked the same thing some time ago, and iirc, the conclusion was bots, or something along those lines.
Highly likely. I'd say that 800,000+ user number on the main page is probably half bots/spammers. Kinda surprised the most online number was that low considering.
Regardless of the number, I think it still indicates a peak timeframe. (I don't know much about bots, but I assume there is a positive correlation between forum activity and # of bots...)

not really actually. it's more about how willing the mods are to delete the spam accounts and how long the website has been around for, how lax internet security is at he time, how much luck you're having spreading your botnet, patterns of attack vectors, etc. It's extremely non-corrilated. if any of them are still active they could just as easily show up right now.
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Re: Golden age of AMVs?

Postby Nya-chan Production » Tue Oct 11, 2011 5:21 am

BasharOfTheAges wrote:
Phantasmagoriat wrote:
BasharOfTheAges wrote:Highly likely. I'd say that 800,000+ user number on the main page is probably half bots/spammers. Kinda surprised the most online number was that low considering.
Regardless of the number, I think it still indicates a peak timeframe. (I don't know much about bots, but I assume there is a positive correlation between forum activity and # of bots...)

not really actually. it's more about how willing the mods are to delete the spam accounts and how long the website has been around for, how lax internet security is at he time, how much luck you're having spreading your botnet, patterns of attack vectors, etc. It's extremely non-corrilated. if any of them are still active they could just as easily show up right now.

Just a bit of insight - they do still show up.
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Re: Golden age of AMVs?

Postby BasharOfTheAges » Tue Oct 11, 2011 6:20 am

Words go missing when I post from my phone. There should have been an "all" in there. As in they could all just show up (in mass) at any time.
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Re: Golden age of AMVs?

Postby TritioAFB » Tue Oct 11, 2011 9:21 am

We should talk about all years then. For the editors that have been editing more than 10 years: What was the differences in the AMV World at 90s, 2000-2002, 2003-2005,2006-2008,2008 to actual year?
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Re: Golden age of AMVs?

Postby JaddziaDax » Tue Oct 11, 2011 1:50 pm

i could write about the "golden age for me" but i dont know about the rest of the community... I think we are still too young of an art form to have a "golden age" yet.
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Re: Golden age of AMVs?

Postby Pwolf » Tue Oct 11, 2011 1:52 pm

JaddziaDax wrote:I think we are still too young of an art form to have a "golden age" yet.
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Re: Golden age of AMVs?

Postby Kariudo » Tue Oct 11, 2011 1:59 pm

BasharOfTheAges wrote:
8bit_samurai wrote:I asked the same thing some time ago, and iirc, the conclusion was bots, or something along those lines.

Highly likely. I'd say that 800,000+ user number on the main page is probably half bots/spammers. Kinda surprised the most online number was that low considering.

Right now, my best guess at the number of bot/spam accounts is around 125,000.
Unfortunately, I can't get an actual number until I get an environment where a runaway sql query won't affect the org.

Back on topic...
It's true that activity is declining, but at the same time I think that the quality is getting better (the worst ones are staying relatively the same, but the better ones are getting better).

I don't define a "golden age" based on activity alone, so I'd say 2007-2009 were a good balance of forum activity, innovative techniques and interesting videos.
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