Biggest AMV Annoyances. (Survey) I need your help!

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Re: Biggest AMV Annoyances. (Survey) I need your help!

Postby guy07 » Sun Sep 04, 2011 11:53 am

Watch any of my videos and i think everything on here is in it. lol
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Re: Biggest AMV Annoyances. (Survey) I need your help!

Postby Kosmit » Sun Sep 04, 2011 1:19 pm

Creator Name: Kosmit
Date Completed: 04.09.2011

[Visual Effects]
1. Effects for the sake of effects. Don't get me wrong, I do enjoy effects-heavy videos providing that the effects are there to convey an artistic vision, are generally well thought out or something among those lines. What I hate are the AMVs with effects slapped in at random or in such numbers that you can't even see the original source.
2. Excessive colour corrections and bad colour manipulation in general.
3. White flashes with every beat.
4. Too much camera shake
5. Poorly cut out masks

[Style / Genre]
1. Drama done badly. Emo song + shots of people crying do not make a good AMV.
2. Romance. I tend to get bored by it really easily.
3. Comedy videos relying on literal lyric synch and/or lipsynch without any real creative input from the editor.
4. Seizure inducing stuff with cuts so fast you have no idea what's going on
5. Multi anime AMVs, specifically those where one anime is used for an extended period, then it's suddenly switched to another one for no apparent reason as if the author ran out of footage.

[Anime / Visual Source]
1. Subtitles. I turn the AMV off as soon as I see them.
2. Interlacing, blended frames, macroblocking etc (generally bad video quality)
3. Bad AR
4. Watermarks
5. OPs/EDs that are not creditless

[Additional Grievances]
1. Lipsynch done badly and lipflap
2. Abrupt endings
3. Lazy editing, ie slapping a fight scene on the timeline, not editing it at all and having the nerve to call it an AMV
4. Very static AMVs/scenes that drag on forever
5. Letterboxing when sources with different ARs are used
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Re: Biggest AMV Annoyances. (Survey) I need your help!

Postby MycathatesyouAMV » Sun Sep 04, 2011 3:32 pm

Feeling lazy to do the rest

Creator Name: MycathatesyouAMV
Date Completed: Sept 4

[Visual Effects]

1. Effects that don't have a good enough reason or meaning of being in the video
2. Cheesy rainbow spammy color effects (See Skittles and Attack of the Otaku)
3. Shitty TV Simulator
4. Built-in transitions
5. Too many freaking crossfades/fades
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Re: Biggest AMV Annoyances. (Survey) I need your help!

Postby Milk Or Life! » Sun Sep 04, 2011 3:37 pm

[Visual Effects]
1.Bad looking effects? unless it's some kind of horror vid.
2.Flash with no opacity modification / not fitting or annoying.

[Style / Genre]
1."Flow synch" i don't get it, usually it just feels too slow/unfitting to song for me.
2.Most romance vids without mood or direction to romantic feeling.
4.Trailers are less re-viewable for me

[Anime / Visual Source]
1.Subtitle unless they are used for parody or something.
2.Interlacing
3.Watermarks
4.overused Op/EDs as source

[Additional Grievances]
1.lack of sync construction or just bad pacing/tempo of scenes
2.lack of re-view ability (various reasons come to this i guess)
3.lack of creativity/ideas in general
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Re: Biggest AMV Annoyances. (Survey) I need your help!

Postby Warlike Swans » Mon Sep 05, 2011 11:55 am

Creator Name: Warlike Swans, CMN
Date Completed: 9/5/2011

[Visual Effects]

1. Seizure-inducing strobes/dips to color

2. Purposelessly fast edits

3. Heavy effects that obscure the video.

4. Only lips sync-ing over still images.

5. Videos that look like samples for all the transitions/effects the editing program came with.


[Style / Genre]

1. Drama -context = Bullshit

2. Action- other elements= Generic

3. Romance that is merely a random compliation of tropes (holding hands, tears, hugs, beaches)

4. Convention videos that rely on the audience already knowing the anime for context.

5. All of the categorical elements coming from the song rather than the editing.


[Anime / Visual Source]

1. Mixed up casting; When one character is linked to a voice as 1st person, and then the voice seems to be 1st person for someone else, especially if lip synced.

2. Various sources/various couples in a romance vid if the song is personal or definately about 1 couple.

3. Irrelevent artifacts; subtitles from the anime source, watermarks, timestamps.

4. Interlacing.

5. Lack of color correction especially with very dark scenes.


[Additional Grievances]

1. Writing fake subtitles for Japanese audio, especially when super basic words are false-subbed.

2. Videos that are longer than they should be because the editor feared cutting the audio. (So many AMVs that would be strong at 3 minutes get weak by 5.)

3. Long intros/production tags.

4. Videos that force jarring occipital movement over and over again.

5. Foriegn language songs not subbed when the lyrics seem relevent, especially when there's a target audience (like a convention) that won't understand the words.
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4. "It's funny because they are/aren't gay" - at least when that's all there is to the concept.



Can be disquieting as well as a comedic miss.
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Re: Biggest AMV Annoyances. (Survey) I need your help!

Postby DriftRoot » Wed Sep 07, 2011 7:52 pm

Creator Name: DriftRoot
Date Completed: 9/7/11


[Visual Effects]

1. Effects which serve no purpose other than to make up for boring footage/editing.

2. Grunge/old-film look which serves no purpose other than to make up for low-quality footage/editing.

3. Bad font choices.

4. Camera shake that makes me want to scream "For the love of all that is good, HOLD STILL!"

5. Masking for no purpose other than to point out that there is masking. Usually this also is executed poorly, which only increases the level of offense.

[Style / Genre]

1. Action videos which are all sync and no substance.

2. Drama videos which use a bunch of a series' high-impact scenes...but don't bother to educate the uninformed viewer about what makes those scenes high-impact in the first place.

3. Dance videos which hover so close to the "action" video line that the only difference is really how bright the color palette is.

4. Single/dual-editor AMV Hell-type videos which go on waaaayyy too long.

5. Comedy videos which utterly fail to be amusing because they rely on funny audio as their sole source of comedic relief (a.k.a many Weird Al AMVs) and totally drop the ball in all other respects.

[Anime / Visual Source]

1. Bad AR, particularly and most egregiously in AMVs being shown in competition.

2. Subtitles. No, just...put down that fansub and back away slowly!

3. Over-filtering of footage such that it no longer resembles the original footage, most often seen with color/saturation/brightness adjustments.

4. Using multiple sources with different visual quality in one video.

5. Unfortunate evidence of footage being slowed down or sped up. This includes 60 FPS videos which would have probably been just fine at 24 FPS or something.

[Additional Grievances]


1. Over-reliance on the popular song-of-the-day/week/month.

2. Karaoke.

3. AMVs set to foreign-language songs which the editor a) clearly doesn't know the meaning of and/or b) can't communicate the meaning of.

4. Lots of visual activity during pauses or dramatic silences in a song.

5. Fan-videos. The type which are titled Inuyasha_X_Kagome and exist for no other reason than to literally show someone's favorite scenes of specific characters doing random stuff.


I have to say, reading everyone's lists, I am getting quite an education about particular likes/dislikes I never really thought about before (or, if I did, didn't realize some folks might feel so strongly). :up:
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Re: Biggest AMV Annoyances. (Survey) I need your help!

Postby Fire_Starter » Tue Sep 13, 2011 9:19 pm

Creator Name: FS
Date Completed: 9/13/2011

[Visual Effects]

1. AfterEffects wanking. Just because you CAN do an effect, doesn't mean you SHOULD.

2. Camera shake just for the sake of trying to be "edgy." It usually fails.

3. Badly done particle effects. This ESPECIALLY includes particle effects that are rendered at, say, 30fps on top of a 24fps source. It looks HORRIBLY out of place.

4. Crappy lipsync

5. Piano keys

[Style / Genre]

1. Hipstertrash/faux-artistic (yes, I realize Tinnitus could be included, but that was done as a joke)

2. Generic Action Video #4752. Fast music doesn't mean you have to make it a "ZOMG EPIKU BATTARU!" video

3. "Everyone Else Has Done This, So I Should Too" videos. Just because a theme is popular doesn't mean take on it won't suck.

4. Sappy romantic videos for others that mention said person in some way. We get it. You're "soooo in loooove" that you made a video JUST for your sweetie/cuddlebug/froofroo/snufflekins/etc. But it's nauseating to the rest of us who are old enough to actually have a HS diploma.

5. Comedy videos that aren't funny.

[Anime / Visual Source]

1. DBZ

2. Naruto

3. Improperly cleaned source material from the 80's

4. Source material from Youtube

5. Source material from horribly encoded fansubs (ties into #1 below)

[Additional Grievances]

1. SUBTITLES. I want them in my anime. However, they have NO BUSINESS in your video unless they are translations of the MUSIC, and I can also turn them off!

2. Crappy audio. No, I don't mean crappy music. I hate it when people think that everything must go to 11, and the audio is so damned loud it's constantly clipping. Or the reverse, when it's so quiet I can't hear it even with the volume all the way up.

3. Rainbowing (see #3 in Anime/Source grievances)

4. No obvious effort, but expecting everyone to think it's the greatest thing ever.

5. Inability to take constructive criticism (i.e. going all "OMGWTF why u no liek mai vid" / "y u haet meeeee?" when someone points out a legitimate concern).
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Re: Biggest AMV Annoyances. (Survey) I need your help!

Postby Nya-chan Production » Wed Sep 14, 2011 8:21 pm

Creator Name: Nya-chan Production
Date Completed: 15th September 2011

[Visual Effects]


1. Anything that stands out too much. Anything. If you can point at anything and say: "This doesn't look right", then it's bad.

2. Logo (of the creator). Goddammit, you think THEY (whoever they are) can't crop it away? What's next, watermark over the whole video?

3. Abuse of white/black flashes.

4. Lipflap and/or bad lipsync.

5. Bad usage of typography.

[Style / Genre]

1. Anything that I fail to understand. This doesn't mean that I have to know the anime at all - there are ways. But if to me the video seems like random scenes laid together to random music, I probably won't even finish the video.

2. Generic action/shounen video. Usually to some angsty or sad music. Take your pick.

3. Generic drama video. Gosh, people, there are TONS of ways to make a video dramatic without love tragedy or death.

4. Boring or highly specific (so highly that I don't get them) comedy videos.

5. Shiny ZOMGSOFAST stuff except very few things (Skittles, AotO and others fall under here), because most people can't finetune it enough.

[Anime / Visual Source]

1. 3D sources (FFVII:AC, KH and the like). No.

2. Subtitles.

3. Completely wrong AR and/or letterboxing.

4. Interlacing.

5. Bad quality in general.

[Additional Grievances]

1. Lack of understanding of constructive criticism.

2. Throwing out tons of mediocre AMVs without ever looking back and finding out how to improve.

3. Making fan stuff because you like the serie/film/whatevs. Hey, even I don't make 5cm stuff because it's 5cm - but because I have IDEAS which 5cm fits to.

4. Completely off-beat.

5. No progress, new ideas, motives and similar things over the creator's production span. You can be Nostromo, but seeing the same stuff again and again is just boring - no matter how well it's created.
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Re: Biggest AMV Annoyances. (Survey) I need your help!

Postby JudgeHolden » Thu Sep 15, 2011 11:47 am

*Insert whining* :awesome:
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Re: Biggest AMV Annoyances. (Survey) I need your help!

Postby post-it » Thu Sep 15, 2011 9:53 pm

interesting ...

[Visual Effects]
1) subtitles

[Additional Grievances]
1) a swishing sound, like the audio was pulled from an MP3!
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Re: Biggest AMV Annoyances. (Survey) I need your help!

Postby Loki5654 » Fri Sep 23, 2011 11:44 pm

Creator Name: Loki5654
Date Completed:09/23/11

/* Effects should enhance the video, not just be tacked on. If the effect doesn't improve the mood or correlate to the video, it shouldn't be there.*/
[Visual Effects]

1. Too much brightness and contrast. In some cases it works very well and is even mandatory, but it most cases it just makes the video harder to see (i.e. frame whited out or completely black when it shouldn't be otherwise.)

2. Poorly executed 3d movements. Most Amvs don't utilize a 3d environment, but when they do it can be very powerful and fun to watch. However, if it isn't done right, it just takes you out of the immersion.

3. Colored flashes. Unless you are using colors as a mood setter/ motif, and is just there because it can be, it should just be a normal flash.

4. Poor text usage. Text in a video can be very powerful. A picture with no words and the same picture with words have two very different meanings. This means, if used poorly, it can ruin the entire mood and just distract you from the video when it is, instead, supposed to enhance the shot.

5. Like everyone else, poor uses of masks. Many different uses for masks, but again, needs to be used correctly to actually do any good.


/* The style/genre doesn't matter to me. A good video is a good video, regardless of its type. Similarly, a bad video is a bad video, regardless of its type.*/
[Style / Genre]

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[Anime / Visual Source]

1. Bleach. Oh My god this anime overused. Bleach is not the problem here though; the problem is everyone uses the same scenes to the same type of song. Almost every bleach video I have seen looks exactly the same: there is no uniqueness to it.

2. Naruto. Same reasons as bleach, but to a lesser degree. Scenes are overused a lot, but those scenes offer much more variety in comparison to bleach (from what I have seen).

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[Additional Grievances]

1. Subtitles that aren't supposed to be in the video. 'Nuff said.

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Re: Biggest AMV Annoyances. (Survey) I need your help!

Postby gotegenks » Mon Sep 26, 2011 3:49 pm

...is it against the rules to post about someone else's video?
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Re: Biggest AMV Annoyances. (Survey) I need your help!

Postby pink haze » Tue Sep 27, 2011 7:00 pm

Do we get to know what the survey's for at the end? :dino:
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Re: Biggest AMV Annoyances. (Survey) I need your help!

Postby -MD » Thu Oct 06, 2011 7:24 am

Creator Name:-MD/Meteor Dragon
Date Completed: October 6, 2011 (10/6/2011)

[Visual Effects]

1. Shatter transition

2. 3D effects that seem out of place

3. Wipe transitions

4. If the effect is meant to alter the color or anything directly (add grains, color changes, etc)...I'd like for it to at least look somewhat decent

5. The quake/shake effect....could go well and could go wrong.

[Style / Genre]

1. Random Effects everywhere....Shit everywhere.....now I know we shouldn't give you a canvas and some paint

2. No story, no concept, or theme.....Some "random action" vids have a theme.

3. _____________________ <---something would be between these 2....

4. Romance done wrong. I'm a drama/romance editor myself....it isn't all about kissing and "Lovin', touchin', squeezin' each other"...I like character developement. Immersion is nice........

5.

[Anime / Visual Source]

1. Wrong AR

2. Interlacing

3. Watermarks

4. Not many things bother me.....

5. Shinkai....I'm actually tired of it....just a little :>

[Additional Grievances]

1. Take some time to pick your scenes....a 24 ep anime is a gold mine of scenes and usually I see the same shit in every amv of a particular anime. If you do some scene searching and actually manage to use a scene I don't see used often....then you get some points <3

2. COLOR....going from light to dark immediately. NO! Just make sure the color in your scenes transition well from one scene to another. Color theory? Is that what it's called.

3. Learn the genre you plan on editing.....there is the generic way or you can do something different. Even if that something different it is small....give it a shot.

4. Jadecavy, Darklydone, Evafan, and MystikAMV keep making fun of me :cry: Make them stop?

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Re: Biggest AMV Annoyances. (Survey) I need your help!

Postby Fall_Child42 » Thu Oct 06, 2011 10:10 am

Thanks for all your responses guys!
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