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Postby AimoAio » Tue Sep 20, 2011 7:23 am

I suppose since you already made your decision then there's no need to vote anymore. ^^ I have no problems with the Bakemonogatari track anyway, it was good. :up:
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Re: CascadaThon 2-NEW UPDATE POST GUYS!! CHECK IT OUT NAO!!!

Postby TwilightChrono » Tue Sep 20, 2011 3:35 pm

Like I said before, I'm not trying to be a dick. So I apologize if it seems liek I'm coming off that way. I only want the best for the MEP as per my vision. I"ve come to grow fond of all of you guys :)

Just like in the first CascadaThon we've bonded in a sort of way :)

And for the first time ever of me coordinating a MEP, NO DRAMA!! NEW RECORD!!

I just preferred the Bakamono track over-all, and since the credits are almost done, there is almost no time for a revised track or at least a track with a new anime source.

Also, I would like progress reports from everybody as soon as possible.

I need progress reports from these people the most:

iCardioidAMV
Inan

So, get those reports to me ASAP please. Need to know your status.

Also, I'll have revised versions of my betas for you guys tomorrow. As stated before, I really like the FMP in my second track, so I will be honest and say that those scenes will probably stay. I will also be replacing a few scenes as well, but I can't promise huge changes. Due to my AMVApp practically butchering all of my footage.

I'll be getting rid of the un-needed zooms in my first track as well, and tightening a couple of transitions and scenes.

I might have to scrap all of my other projects once C2 is released just so I can upgrade my APP. Save all the projects I wanna finish as Huffy or Lagarith and start from whee I left off after the New APP is installed. I think that's the best course. Just tighten up and fix to the best of what I can with what I have edited already on those projects and save them as huffy or lag and back them up to continue later.

Anywho. Reports?
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Re: CascadaThon 2-NEW UPDATE POST GUYS!! CHECK IT OUT NAO!!!

Postby iCardioidAMV » Tue Sep 20, 2011 11:42 pm

Sending a beta tomorrow. I followed Inan's advice but I'm not really sure if it changed the blended frames.
I also changed some of the clips so that they show more of the two together.
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Re: CascadaThon 2-NEW UPDATE POST GUYS!! CHECK IT OUT NAO!!!

Postby Inan » Wed Sep 21, 2011 5:25 am

ill have something out to you soon TC, i dont have much one my track left but only have made minor changes to my beta
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Re: CascadaThon 2-NEW UPDATE POST GUYS!! CHECK IT OUT NAO!!!

Postby TwilightChrono » Wed Sep 21, 2011 1:23 pm

Alright guys. I'll be sending you all my Vandread track which is now combined with the next track including transition. Note that the transition used is temporary unless you guys think it's good enough. If not then I will attempt a better transition.

This beta is also to determine whether or not my track is good enough for a final or not. I have fixed some concerns most notably: The zooms. I tried my best with the frame blending but I can't fix it beyond what you see in this beta.

Seeing as how my AMVApp is old as dirt nothing can be done, and I don't feel like re-editing this entire track from scratch with a new App seeing as how by doing this I would have to scrap all of my other projects as well.

Anywho, check your inbox's shortly guys.

EDIT: Beta has been sent guys.

One more note on the transition. IT IS A TEMPORARY TRANSITION! By no means think it's a final product. It's just a quick Chroma Key as you can see by pausing right at the transition you will see little black spots. This will be turned into a mask come the actually combining process as to alleviate that problem. It's not a bad Chroma, just needs tweaking. Those black spots were actually white stars but by eliminating the white I would have actually ruined more. So I will be masking it after this has been approved for final.
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Re: CascadaThon 2-NEW UPDATE POST GUYS!! CHECK IT OUT NAO!!!

Postby pan_dbgt01 » Wed Sep 21, 2011 3:08 pm

It was ok....

I think the synch needs to be better. I don't know the second anime at all, but I don't think it suits Faded.
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Re: CascadaThon 2-NEW UPDATE POST GUYS!! CHECK IT OUT NAO!!!

Postby TwilightChrono » Wed Sep 21, 2011 3:42 pm

pan_dbgt01 wrote:It was ok....

I think the synch needs to be better. I don't know the second anime at all, but I don't think it suits Faded.



Well, the second anime was the next track that has already been turned into me as a final by Jade. And was turned in early on towards the beginning of C2 so that track is not what is under review.

And, there isn't much else I can do with my Vandread track. I can't tweak much else. Sorry to say. The synch is the same as it was in the last beta. Just some minor changes that everyone told me to do from the last beta.
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Re: CascadaThon 2-NEW UPDATE POST GUYS!! CHECK IT OUT NAO!!!

Postby CodeZTM » Wed Sep 21, 2011 4:57 pm

I think what's bothering me is the perspective. We start off the song with the perspective from the long haired girl, and it shifts to the male. Since it's a female perspective singer, the male's perspective is a little off. Plus, we're not really hitting the lyric sync very well. It's there, but I'm not feeling "sad" because of it. It's a very emotional song about love/betrayal/cheating, and I just don't think it fits that very well. It's a slower segment, so I think that it needs to focus more on the emotions/flow/scene fitting rather than oversync.

To be completely honest, I don't feel like Vandred matches the track's audio very well. Plus, the footage quality is still in need of some work. Like you said with my pokemon track [and the reason why I left it], we're working towards a high quality piece, and Vandred is a little dated and has a lot of filtering issues. I'd almost suggest looking for a torrent of the show to get some HD/Blu Ray footage if you're really committed to Vandred. You might consider working on an alternative track with it and see if it works any better. I personally think that the new Macross anime would work really great with the footage [from the perspective of either female singer and the male pilot as the male], and I know that you have/own that, and it looks much more modern/decent when compared. :)

Unrelated, shouldn't "everytime we touch" also start a little earlier?
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Re: CascadaThon 2-NEW UPDATE POST GUYS!! CHECK IT OUT NAO!!!

Postby pan_dbgt01 » Wed Sep 21, 2011 5:22 pm

I've never seen Jade's track so I don't know how it ends up.

I do feel that the synch could be better. It seems you know Vandread well so I'm sure you could do somethng. There are some pervy seens in there and I'm sure the "Cheated on me from Behind," Could be matched better.
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Re: CascadaThon 2-NEW UPDATE POST GUYS!! CHECK IT OUT NAO!!!

Postby TwilightChrono » Wed Sep 21, 2011 6:15 pm

CodeZTM wrote:
Unrelated, shouldn't "everytime we touch" also start a little earlier?


It starts exactly where it needs and is supposed to.

Alright Code. I'll see what I can do. But note, that whatever source I use will have blended frames. The APP causes it, and is not the fault of my footage. So just note that and I'll get working on another piece. Didn't wanna have to work on something new this late towards the end of the month. Which is why THIS EXACT FEEDBACK could have been said oh let's say towards the beginning of the month and NOT at the fricking 21st. Haha. To top it off, I should be receiving the credits today too, which I should tell you took them almost a month to make.

I really don't wanna have to edit something completely new, so I'll tweak this the best I can. I told you guys from the get go not to expect huge changes.

It shifts to the guys view cause he is with the "other" girl and the singer a.k.a. Dita is acting more as a narrator to what is going on. That is how I was viewing and editing it as. The video has everything the track is about. So besides the blended frames I don't see what the issue is.

I want to avoid re-editing an entire track this late into the month. So, I need something else to go on besides " A new source might be better" Not an option this late in the game. If you think I should have used a newer source for this track, then it should have been said at the beginning of the month or way earlier on. But no one said a damned thing.

Which is leaving me quite irritated ATM. Emphasis on "Quite"

Again, not trying to be a dick, just saying that some stuff should have been said WAY EARLIER ON which was never said or even brought up (Went through all 55 Pages And DBL Checked Before Posting)

So besides a source switch, what scenes need to go the most or wait......lemme guess.......scrap it and start over using Vandread?
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Re: CascadaThon 2-NEW UPDATE POST GUYS!! CHECK IT OUT NAO!!!

Postby Hagaren Viper » Wed Sep 21, 2011 6:21 pm

Im a little confused about how getting a new AMVapp would hurt the rest of your projects? [Because I dont use the app myself]

I should be done with my track revision today/tomorrow, so Ill send out a beta sometime soon.
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Re: CascadaThon 2-NEW UPDATE POST GUYS!! CHECK IT OUT NAO!!!

Postby TwilightChrono » Wed Sep 21, 2011 6:25 pm

Hagaren Viper wrote:Im a little confused about how getting a new AMVapp would hurt the rest of your projects? [Because I dont use the app myself]

I should be done with my track revision today/tomorrow, so Ill send out a beta sometime soon.


Here is an example, Code:

Since I am using 3.0 Beta and have certain scripts tied to certain projects, installing a NEW AMVApp also installs new filters and code's and such and deletes or no longer uses [And apparently mine is extremely out of date] some of which my App uses and thus deletes them from the registry/folder/or wherever the hell it deletes them from, making my scripts inoperable and all the editing work I have done for nothing since it practically deletes your entire project or projects.

Applying a new script to the project with the New AMVApp won't work. You would have to re-rip all the footage and re-filter it with the new APP, then start your project all the way back at the very beginning.

Which is why when you start an installation of a new AMVApp, the APP warns you never to install a new version in the middle of a AMV Project.
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Re: CascadaThon 2-NEW UPDATE POST GUYS!! CHECK IT OUT NAO!!!

Postby CodeZTM » Wed Sep 21, 2011 6:33 pm

Well, it's up to you what you do with your track and your project. I just gave my honest insight. And I've just very recently re-joined the project, so this is my first time seeing this track. ;)

Anyway, when I said it starts a little late, you've got the very beginning of the word "Every" in "everytime we touch" still on Jade's track.

Oh, and I just sent out my beta for my new bakemongatri track. enjoy.

EDIT: Oh, and any idea when we can kind of see a compiled "beta" of everyone's stuff all together for just funsies, without transitions or anything? If I can get a copy of everyone's betas, I'd be happy to do it.I think it'd be nice to see how everything is working together. We don't even need an intro/credits.
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Re: CascadaThon 2-NEW UPDATE POST GUYS!! CHECK IT OUT NAO!!!

Postby pan_dbgt01 » Wed Sep 21, 2011 6:45 pm

Hagaren Viper wrote:Im a little confused about how getting a new AMVapp would hurt the rest of your projects? [Because I dont use the app myself]

I should be done with my track revision today/tomorrow, so Ill send out a beta sometime soon.


I don't think so. It's really just codecs and things like Virtual Dub and AVISynth.
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Re: CascadaThon 2-NEW UPDATE POST GUYS!! CHECK IT OUT NAO!!!

Postby pan_dbgt01 » Wed Sep 21, 2011 6:47 pm

OMG! Code that was awesome! Looking pretty epic so far. Not sure what to critique so let's see what everyone else says :)
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