AMV Salad 5: Happy Meal (Nekocon 14, here we come!)

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Re: AMV Salad 5: Happy Meal (Post-Production)

Postby Gaelstrom » Wed Jun 15, 2011 12:27 am

Deuce, I have Captpan6's clip as well as the Chobits clip ready to post as DVs, but I was given some emergency animation work. I have to finish 8 animations by tomorrow. I want to give a heads up, they're almost ready to post, so I just wanted to let you know before you started on the next beta. Sorry, I'll get them up before I go to sleep, this is just the first work I've gotten in a month and I need the money ^^

And thanks for letting me do the Stein clip, it'll take a while, but I really want to do it. Miko seems to like the Hetalia idea as well, that one should be fast if I work with her since she knows the footage so well, would you like me to move ahead with that one? We have so many kid and girl-related Hetalia clips, I kinda wanna hear one where they're cussing at each other ^^ I'll be the men in the audience would get a hoot from it ^^ What do you think, shall we move ahead with both? They'll both be post-AMA of course, hopefully next week if I'm really lucky with the footage. If I can't get them close to done by the 20th, I'll nix them. We have until the 24th. I don't want to cut it that close, though.

Oh, and yes, sorry to say, I think the text across the screen will draw everyone's attention away from the joke. If you want to try something though that won't hurt the joke, when he says "SH**" there are two mouth poses for it, half-closed and fully open. You could try an experiment and cut to a screen with "AMVS6 2012" immediately after the last frame where his mouth is halfway open. Get what I mean? I honestly can't say if this'll work or not, but it's worth trying since it's easy to do. Basically it COULD give the impression that the AMVS6 screen is a censor as well. Again, this may or may not work, but I think it's the best of both worlds. It may need some adjustment to make sure the 'sh' noise is exactly on that mouth movement to make this work, but that's easy. Would you like to try that in the next beta?
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Re: AMV Salad 5: Happy Meal (Post-Production)

Postby Deuce Loosely » Wed Jun 15, 2011 1:22 am

I think I know what you're saying and I can try it.
I was hoping to have a beta done before turning in tonight but I shoulda known better. :P
I think there's enough time for me to whip up the final beta / credits between Thursday and Friday since the screening isn't until Saturday and I'm bringing my computer to the hotel.
And go forth with the Hetalia stuff, young man...
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Re: AMV Salad 5: Happy Meal (Post-Production)

Postby moonbunnychan » Wed Jun 15, 2011 2:04 am

I sent Deuce a more synced up version of How To Train Your Dragon Monday, actually. I did some work on Star Trekin' too, although it's still not as good as I'd like it to be, I did fix the biggest area at the "it's gonna blow" part at the end and also added in the explosion noise from the other clips.


Miko! Waaay back when like, beta number 1 came out I said that the It's a Small World one was one of my favorites from this. The prostitute hippo is also one of my favorites (I did, in fact, laugh out loud at it).

I'm hoping the robot unicorn one doesn't miserably fail. I THINK it'll be ok since only having one isn't total overkill like in Hell. And like you said, it's been a full year since Hell. Even if they initially groan, I'm hoping the ending will still make them laugh.


I definitely think that overall this year's is a lot more solid over all. And just think, you were worried we might not have ENOUGH clips :asd:
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Re: AMV Salad 5: Happy Meal (Post-Production)

Postby Gaelstrom » Wed Jun 15, 2011 2:45 am

Okay, sorry for delaying you, Deuce. I had to get a chunk taken out of these animations before tomorrow.

Here are the two clips.
davidkrein.net/ChobitsProblem_DV2.rar

davidkrein.net/HaruhiBlowsUp_DV.rar
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Re: AMV Salad 5: Happy Meal (Post-Production)

Postby moonbunnychan » Wed Jun 15, 2011 2:51 am

Oh my god...that Chobits one is HYSTERICAL!

Honestly not sure I like the Haruhi one though. My reaction to it can best be summed up as O_o
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Re: AMV Salad 5: Happy Meal (Post-Production)

Postby Gaelstrom » Wed Jun 15, 2011 3:09 am

moonbunnychan wrote:Oh my god...that Chobits one is HYSTERICAL!

Honestly not sure I like the Haruhi one though. My reaction too can best be summed up as O_o


Hehehe, I do believe that one will have to be VERY strategically placed. We'll see if it even works. The Nagato going "FUCK YOU!" worked last year. That's the same guy. I'm personally a massive fan of his youtube poop work. Last year's is more conducive to a general audience. This one's definitely more of a test. I figured at the very least it wouldn't hurt to try it.
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Re: AMV Salad 5: Happy Meal (Post-Production)

Postby Deuce Loosely » Wed Jun 15, 2011 1:22 pm

Any ideas on where you'd like these clips placed?
Tell you what...look at this render and choose your spot.
I think it looks a lot more solid now. ;)
I'll write out the credits and put them together tonight unless there are more placement suggestions.

http://www.megaupload.com/?d=TRHOSOQ4 (219mb mpeg1)

And If you all haven't done so already I NEED your clip info!
I *think* I've identified them all but wanna be sure...
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Re: AMV Salad 5: Happy Meal (Post-Production)

Postby SammySamaProductions » Wed Jun 15, 2011 3:42 pm

I agree, this one is the best yet. The grouping of clips I thought was kind of odd but that's it. ^_^

And I love the AMVS6 Preview at the end
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Re: AMV Salad 5: Happy Meal (Post-Production)

Postby Deuce Loosely » Wed Jun 15, 2011 3:54 pm

Yeah...the grouping is to avoid putting same anime next to each other or too close together as well as spacing out the longest and shortest clips, not to mention the explosions.
It was much more difficult to do this year.
So much Hetalia and Sailor moon... ;)
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Re: AMV Salad 5: Happy Meal (Post-Production)

Postby Honou_Miko » Wed Jun 15, 2011 4:30 pm

This order was GREAT. irl applauding at the end.

I also really didn't mean to push for the small world clip - I just was wondering why it wasn't there when it didn't seem like people were talking about scrapping it. (Actually, if you're overloaded on Hetalia clips, I really wouldn't mind scrapping the Happy Meal one unless there's a way to tie it into the title more. Seeing it in context of everything else I'm like ... meh. If you like it though, by all means keep it.)
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Re: AMV Salad 5: Happy Meal (Post-Production)

Postby SammySamaProductions » Wed Jun 15, 2011 6:02 pm

Honou_Miko wrote:(Actually, if you're overloaded on Hetalia clips, I really wouldn't mind scrapping the Happy Meal one unless there's a way to tie it into the title more. Seeing it in context of everything else I'm like ... meh. If you like it though, by all means keep it.)


No! Don't say that about the happy meal clip! It's one of my favorites ;)
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Re: AMV Salad 5: Happy Meal (Post-Production)

Postby moonbunnychan » Wed Jun 15, 2011 11:47 pm

My only issue with the Happy Meal one is that I'm worried the audio is a little difficult to hear.

(and apologies for so much Sailor Moon ^_^;)

Downloading the beta now.
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Re: AMV Salad 5: Happy Meal (Post-Production)

Postby Gaelstrom » Wed Jun 15, 2011 11:57 pm

*Phew* All right, that was in every way stronger ^^ I have far less to say about this one, so most of this is just clip arrangement thoughts.

One thing that I don't understand is the Robot Unicorn clip and a few others wouldn't play correctly. It was jumping like crazy for me, I couldn't see it in real time for some reason in 3 different players. Anyone else have that problem? But of the like... 3 frames I saw of the last scene, the timing is infinitely better, and I noticed it's a screen-wide explosion now, and I personally think it did actually help it a lot. In fact my brother is sitting behind me playing a game as I was looking through it, and he heard the timing and laughed even while distracted by the game :D There's just something stronger about a word being cut off by an explosion at the right time. But can someone upload that clip to youtube or something so I can see it in real time? I'm hoping it was just me that was seeing it jump so badly.

Anyway, much better! A lot of my clip movement thoughts are very minor to try and strengthen the ending a bit, but here goes.

Comments on edits:

Spoiler :
Muppet Babies: All right, I do like this, it doesn't feel like it winds down its energy now, but it does feel kind of abrupt. In fact now that I look at it, part of the reason Hair Back And Forth worked so well is because I was feeling "All right, that was kind of looHAHAHAHAHAH!!!" as a reaction as muppet babies wound down. This was a great test, but I think my initial cut idea was premature, I think we should cut it right when the cell phone men look up the skirts. What do you all think?
Hair Back and Forth: What are we going to do about this being done before by someone else? Now being aware of it we can't let it go, so what should we do? Ask the person on youtube to allow it, or...? I personally think it's definitely worth getting permission, especially there. The Paprika Babies/Hair Back and Forth contrast is superb. Totally throws off ALL expectations, and that's exactly what we want.
*Tenchi fap: Officially perfect. Both of them ^^
Bake a cake: The section between 3:33-3:35 is absolutely wonderful. Before and after that she still is doing that awkward hit in the middle of her sway loop. If you could make those sections more like that second verse's loop, this'll be perfect I think. ...chiyo is so damn adorable... ^^
Dokuro-chan: I'm not going to talk about humans exploding now, but that jumping in the footage MUST get fixed for this to be a solid clip. It's only technical, but that jumping is extremely distracting. The entire audience will start off thinking about the jumping, not the content, so that needs to be addressed and it'll be good to go.
Sailor Moon Fluffy: This one still has the old fluffy dialogue, we gotta switch that out.
Mitsudomoe Fluffy: Still old sound I think? Sounds lower than the girl moaning with the other hugging the tail. That one's perfect volume I think.
Song on Radio: Still love it of course, but I guess the fact the footage is slowed noticeably still makes it a bit awkward. If you can find a way to get the footage quicker, it'll be awesome, if not I guess it'll be what it is. I'll rewrite a few small suggestions here though that may help it a tad:
-That first shot of Mio cussing, please have it on screen a little longer, more like the length of the red lights with the button noise one. Don't worry if it's on for a little more than the beep. And I'd suggest using a less convulsing bit of footage for Mio, it looks very strange in relation to the slowed main footage.
-Secondly please extend the third cuss with Mio flailing a little longer, like a few frames.
-Lastly, I still think if you cut to another cuss footage for the last cuss ("The ****ing words are awfully strong" one) it'll be stronger, and you can speed up the last Yui shot and end with strong motion since it'll need less time to fill.
Raptar: The parrot is still very out of place, even if this isn't an explosion clip. I think this one definitely needs something in the place of the parrot to be at its peak potential for the punchline to hit strongest. I still believe the explosion idea will work perfectly for this as long as it's cut together right, we just need explosion footage of a city.
*Star Trekkin: Wonderful ^^ Wasn't expecting the explosion, beautiful ^^ Mikuru still looks strange, but it's far, far stronger and much less distracting.
Gundam Fail Explosion: Nah. A good thought, but it's too much noise happening at once for the beginning. I'd let the explosion fade, wait a second, then cut directly to the clip. Also I think your tag is a bit close to the end of the song. Not a big deal, but I'd be curious if there was another place for you to put it. Maybe even put your tag over the end explosion, then the second of silence, then the clip.
*Audience Deaf: *Slow clap* Beautiful Deuce... absolutely beautiful. Talk about a nostalgia hit... god damn that movie for depressing me about summer during school. Actually you do realize with a clip like that, we could toss the gundam fail explode into the center of the credits as an audience holder and try that out?


Clip arrangements:

Spoiler :
Sucky Sucky 5 dollah: I think the Sucky Sucky 5 dollah is too close to its original. I think Sucky Sucky should probably go back to before the Death Note Troll Face. That'll absorb its laughter very well too, and not be too far away.
Rebel Dick and Pokemon Electric: Some reason I feel that these should be switched. Electric feels more nostalgic, I feel like it'll be stronger closer to the beginning. Rebel Dick strikes me as a hump-clip for the center somehow.
This Button Do Explosion: I think this one should go after the Death Note Troll one as well. Kind of equidistant between the Sailor Moon and Mitsudomoe Fluffy clips.
K-on Wayne's World: I get the feeling this one should be a bit later... perhaps between Funky Town and My Buddy? What does everyone think. Problem I see is the explosion laughter from the unicorn will cut into "Kung Fu Staring Contest," I'm sure laughter will drown out some of the words. I don't know what I can do about the audio on this honestly. It's already normalized... if AMA proves it's got a big problem, I'll do something.
Library: Starting in the midst of the song is quite strange here. Stranger than the previous beta for some reason. Maybe because later on, her starting with 'but' feels more like she's continuing something, when in this case it's a bit early. Not sure, either way this clip is going to haunt us for one reason or another ^^ We'll have to see what happens at AMA. But I'd suggest switching this one with a musical one later on in the production betwen halfway and 3/4ths of the way and see how that feels.
Toys R Us: Think this one'd be best used between the K-on Metalocalypse one and 1800 contacts.
Sailormoon Sleighbells and Azumanaga Cat: Think these two should be switched, and then moved back a few clips to maybe right before Star Trekkin.
Gundam Gay, Insane Kid, and Slappy Holo: I believe these should be switched around with others for a bit stronger ending. We want to go out with high energy clips. I love the insane kid, but it's so gentle and the energy is high after the clips just before it. I think the Insane Kid should go back after Dokuro-chan, because it'll contrast the energy and randomness of the first explosion in a fun way. Gundam Gay may be fine, but it could be switched with Knife Wrench and see how that works. Slappy Holo I think would go well right after the Kay Jewelers. Then after that is Small World then we'll hit Pinky and the Brain for a sort of Animatiacs section ^^

As a final thought to simplify some of the above, you could even just take the ones at the end, the last three before the fluffy-boom, and just move them collectively to before Star Trekkin, same with the Azumanga Cat and Sailor Moon one and then we'd have some very strong clips at the end, give or take Toys R Us, I don't think that one's a finisher. Anyway, all of that is thoughts that are generally minor, give or take the ending clips. You cut this one together well. :)


Locations for Chobits and Captpan6's clip. Hmm... well, let's see, I'd say that Captpan6's clip is very much like the connection between Paprika Babies and Hair Back and Forth. If we lose Hair Back and Forth due to it being used on youtube, I'd say replace it with this one and see what happens. Other than that, maybe even put it after Toys R Us, wherever that ends up, to re-create that contrast. As for Chobits... hmmmmm... this one's probably similar to the Stapler one and Rebel Dick one in feeling. I'd say it could go anywhere in the last half to mix up a couple music clips. Like the combo of USA, Funky Town and My Buddy if any of the above don't already mix that up. It feels like a last-half type of clip. I trust you can put it someplace good, just preview how the one before and after it work with it and it should find its place well. Anyone else have thoughts?

One other thought, Captpan6's could go in the credits as an audience holder, even though I don't think he'll appreciate that much. We really do need at least one really good, quick one in the credits. Captpan6's is similar to the pedobear in timing.
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Re: AMV Salad 5: Happy Meal (Post-Production)

Postby moonbunnychan » Thu Jun 16, 2011 12:01 am

...or not. I'm apparently over my free download limit.


Also I'll accept your slow clap, I made the teaser :awesome:
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Re: AMV Salad 5: Happy Meal (Post-Production)

Postby Gaelstrom » Thu Jun 16, 2011 12:36 am

moonbunnychan wrote:...or not. I'm apparently over my free download limit.


Also I'll accept your slow clap, I made the teaser :awesome:


Shoulda known. When we meet this year for dinner on Thursday night, because I refuse to allow my flight to be 8 hours delayed again, remind me that I owe you a high five. I owe you several from Geico money anyway. In fact, screw it, I wanna have your babies.
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