Moonlight Soldier wrote:Frankly, I was surprised that the video was available right away for EVERYONE to watch. Often on the .org moderation is reactionary, someone acts poorly and they get modded. But with this, it was possible for the judges and the coordinator to screen it. As you pointed it out it violates an org rule, somebody should probably have given the attackee the courtesy of asking whether or not it was alright to post.
In our defense though (and I'm speaking both as moderator and judge here), someone needs to quickly bring this to attention though. I realize that this kind of attack is in really, really, really poor taste, but as with many things of this nature, it's very difficult to gauge exactly how people will respond to it. It's hard NOT to be reactionary. I hate using this as a defense, but heck, godix has made numerous videos of similar nature aimed at other members but few of them were taken as anything but jokes.
I agree that for this case, courtesy is something that'd be nice to ask though. Honestly when I saw the video, my first impression was that the only way it got in is that Ileia had already seen it and didn't care. Because to be fair, I could see this video just being dismissed as satire out of hand.
I'm really sorry to Ileia that I got it wrong and didn't raise alarm, but I don't think it's possible to have a non-reactionary official response to something like that. It's hard to have a hard-and-fast set of rules for something that may or may not be hurtful, and I don't mean that as cover. I really genuinely did not see the video as a direct personal attack, but rather as satire gone wrong - and I don't suggest that this makes it less hurtful. It's just that the line between satire and offense is difficult, and I don't think it's fair to shut down what could just turn out to be a joke on sight. It's not something that should be subject to proactive censoring before someone has a chance to react to it and raise alarm. That said, the right thing to do would've been for me to ask Ileia if she was okay with it first, before letting this go public. Sorry that I didn't think of that immediately. My response was honestly to scratch my head and say how ridiculous that was and how there was no way that'd be taken seriously, but I suppose it's unfair to decide on someone else's behalf what they might or might not find hurtful.
In short, I agree that the best policy is to ask the target of the joke for approval first.
The Birds are using humanity in order to throw something terrifying at this green pig. And then what happens to us all later, that’s simply not important to them…