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Re: Making the org more accessible.

Postby Pwolf » Sun Mar 20, 2011 3:16 am

Nya-chan Production wrote:Yep, we should just shut it down completely

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Thats a stupid idea and nothing I said suggests that.
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Re: Making the org more accessible.

Postby Nya-chan Production » Sun Mar 20, 2011 12:17 pm

Hey, the Org stopped serving its purpose and it's already split into subcommunities (as you wrote in a different thread), so why not end it all? It'll be painless at least!

We can leave it here as a tombstone, though! Just leave. The last one turns off the light.

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Re: Making the org more accessible.

Postby JudgeHolden » Sun Mar 20, 2011 1:34 pm

Nya-chan Production wrote:Hey, the Org stopped serving its purpose and it's already split into subcommunities (as you wrote in a different thread), so why not end it all? It'll be painless at least!

We can leave it here as a tombstone, though! Just leave. The last one turns off the light.

</massive sarcasm>


I'll be speaking with Phade in person in couple weeks, so I'll see what I can do for ya Nya. :ying:
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Re: Making the org more accessible.

Postby Pwolf » Sun Mar 20, 2011 2:36 pm

Nya-chan Production wrote:Hey, the Org stopped serving its purpose and it's already split into subcommunities (as you wrote in a different thread), so why not end it all? It'll be painless at least!

We can leave it here as a tombstone, though! Just leave. The last one turns off the light.

</massive sarcasm>


i don't understand why you're being sarcastic...
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Re: Making the org more accessible.

Postby Nya-chan Production » Sun Mar 20, 2011 2:57 pm

Pwolf wrote:
Nya-chan Production wrote:Hey, the Org stopped serving its purpose and it's already split into subcommunities (as you wrote in a different thread), so why not end it all? It'll be painless at least!

We can leave it here as a tombstone, though! Just leave. The last one turns off the light.

</massive sarcasm>


i don't understand why you're being sarcastic...

Because I honestly try to help the Org out (and I think most of the mods and admins do, even when it's invisible and over the fact that they have lives) and the number of "It's pointless, let's do something else, guys. No, I won't tell you what, but we should." comments from you is starting to tire me out.

Honestly - if I had some experience with creating big sites, working with large databases and OOP, this site would already have a re-haul - but I can't, so I have to be patient as well as you.
No-one ever said that the Org is meant to be "complete" database as well - and it's still growing up, therefore it's working at least to some extent.

In the end I just have trouble standing your attitude, I suppose, even when I think some of the points you make are valid, so pardon my sarcasms :>
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Re: Making the org more accessible.

Postby Pwolf » Sun Mar 20, 2011 3:28 pm

Pwolf wrote:personally i think the original mission of the org, cataloging every amv, is beyond it's scope now. Its impossible for the org to do that now so why continue to try?


Let me rephrase for those of you who are clueless about anything I i'm trying to say...

The org's original goal of being a catalog is beyond it's scope. We shouldn't focus on that anymore. The org offers far more to the community and the hobby as a whole then just being a catalog. like free space to upload videos, a large forum with a large user base (not to mention the chatroom), and guides on just about everything related to amvs and their creation. Those are what make up the community here and what keep people here, not the catalog. So i ask, why do we continue to try and make the org all about the catalog?

How does that concern the original post? If adding a youtube forum will help the org break out of that mold, then lets do it. Instead of pushing away other resources that people use, lets use them to our advantage and not use "the catalog" as a reason to hold back.
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Re: Making the org more accessible.

Postby hasteroth » Sun Mar 20, 2011 3:34 pm

Pwolf wrote:
Pwolf wrote:personally i think the original mission of the org, cataloging every amv, is beyond it's scope now. Its impossible for the org to do that now so why continue to try?


Let me rephrase for those of you who are clueless about anything I i'm trying to say...

The org's original goal of being a catalog is beyond it's scope. We shouldn't focus on that anymore. The org offers far more to the community and the hobby as a whole then just being a catalog. like free space to upload videos, a large forum with a large user base (not to mention the chatroom), and guides on just about everything related to amvs and their creation. Those are what make up the community here and what keep people here, not the catalog. So i ask, why do we continue to try and make the org all about the catalog?

How does that concern the original post? If adding a youtube forum will help the org break out of that mold, then lets do it. Instead of pushing away other resources that people use, lets use them to our advantage and not use "the catalog" as a reason to hold back.


Maybe some of us don't want to break free of the mold. Just a thought. And honestly pwolf that attitude is at least making me want to do the exact opposite of what you want.
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Re: Making the org more accessible.

Postby Pwolf » Sun Mar 20, 2011 3:41 pm

hasteroth wrote: And honestly pwolf that attitude is at least making me want to do the exact opposite of what you want.


What attitude? all i've said is exactly what other people were bitching about last year and why we have the org redesign forum.
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Re: Making the org more accessible.

Postby BasharOfTheAges » Sun Mar 20, 2011 3:53 pm

Personally, I couldn't support a change in focus like that. That's just me, but if we're all feeling like standing up and getting counted, might as well say it. =/
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Re: Making the org more accessible.

Postby NME » Sun Mar 20, 2011 3:54 pm

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Re: Making the org more accessible.

Postby Pwolf » Sun Mar 20, 2011 4:42 pm

Pwolf wrote:
hasteroth wrote: And honestly pwolf that attitude is at least making me want to do the exact opposite of what you want.


What attitude? all i've said is exactly what other people were bitching about last year and why we have the org redesign forum.


Nevermind. People were bitching but i guess i misunderstood what they were really bitching about. my entire attitude is based on what the user base wanted, or what i thought they wanted. now that i know what that is, i have no reason to say anything about it.

back on topic. I'm cool with a youtube forum, but as some people mentioned, it goes against the rule of having the video in the catalog before posting it. In which case, they should just use the announcement forum and provide a link to the youtube video page.
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Re: Making the org more accessible.

Postby JaddziaDax » Mon Mar 21, 2011 1:32 pm

My stance isn't from the "keep the org as the ultimate amv database" idea... My stance is from the idea that kind of forum will just go to support people to continue to "drop link and run" or complain that we don't leave them youtube comments :/ We get enough of that already..

My stance is from trying to get the community here, rather than just leaving us to be a portal for a community else where.
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Re: Making the org more accessible.

Postby Nya-chan Production » Mon Mar 21, 2011 5:24 pm

JaddziaDax wrote:My stance isn't from the "keep the org as the ultimate amv database" idea... My stance is from the idea that kind of forum will just go to support people to continue to "drop link and run" or complain that we don't leave them youtube comments :/ We get enough of that already..

My stance is from trying to get the community here, rather than just leaving us to be a portal for a community else where.

Btw, do you know that even for mods it would be easier, since we wouldn't have to disapprove YT linkers only?

Still, I think that I agree with your points and at the time being it's just unacceptable.
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Re: Making the org more accessible.

Postby JaddziaDax » Tue Mar 22, 2011 12:07 pm

I do know it would be easier, but you ain't getting paid nothing for nothing! O:
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