Anime Expo 2011 Anime Music Video Contest rules are up!

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Re: Anime Expo 2011 Anime Music Video Contest rules are up!

Postby The Wired Knight » Thu Feb 10, 2011 12:57 pm

I'm with Mallard actually. AX can easily be found liable as a secondary infringer IMO should this ever go to trial. It's not like they can say they blindly assumed that all copyright laws were followed in the production of the videos being showcased. I don't think anybody is expecting AX to indemnify them but AX can't reasonably expect to hide behind a veil of ignorance if a hammer ever came down on the matter.

That said the prize thing actually concerns me a bit only by virtue of this is crossing a line on copyright we origianlly didn't so clearly cross. That being making money off this hobby.By doing such the copyright boundry gets worse because now companies can argue we are profiting by it. Nobody would really say shit about little trophy or perhaps a small prize but now that there is a significant dollar value to what the winners recieve the spotlight will suddenly shine more in our direction and I find that concerning.
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Re: Anime Expo 2011 Anime Music Video Contest rules are up!

Postby outlawed » Thu Feb 10, 2011 5:55 pm

http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/bbs/php ... 33#1054233

Zac, ANN Executive Editor wrote:Nice to see the Pirated Copy of Adobe AfterEffects competition finally has a legit prize!


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Re: Anime Expo 2011 Anime Music Video Contest rules are up!

Postby machina21 » Thu Feb 10, 2011 7:30 pm

Rukiia wrote:I was even reading on the AMV forum that people were saying they will quit their jobs and make AMV's for a living (yet I hope they were joking).


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Re: Anime Expo 2011 Anime Music Video Contest rules are up!

Postby Castor Troy » Thu Feb 10, 2011 7:51 pm

machina21 wrote:
Rukiia wrote:I was even reading on the AMV forum that people were saying they will quit their jobs and make AMV's for a living (yet I hope they were joking).


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People? That was just me. :awesome: :bzz: :bzz: :dino: :ying:
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Re: Anime Expo 2011 Anime Music Video Contest rules are up!

Postby Castor Troy » Thu Feb 10, 2011 11:15 pm

What a beautiful media circus this has and will become. :asd:

My 4 day badge and hotel are all ready for this July.
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Re: Anime Expo 2011 Anime Music Video Contest rules are up!

Postby Sephiroth » Thu Feb 10, 2011 11:19 pm

You don't even know the half of it Castor
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Re: Anime Expo 2011 Anime Music Video Contest rules are up!

Postby Rider4Z » Fri Feb 11, 2011 12:10 am

Castor Troy wrote:What a beautiful media circus this has and will become. :asd:

My 4 day badge and hotel are all ready for this July.

i believe that when i see it.
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Re: Anime Expo 2011 Anime Music Video Contest rules are up!

Postby Castor Troy » Fri Feb 11, 2011 1:07 am

Let's go picket the amv contest with signs showing how wrong it is!
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Re: Anime Expo 2011 Anime Music Video Contest rules are up!

Postby The Wired Knight » Fri Feb 11, 2011 4:47 am

Can we make the signs read "Will make AMVs for free" or "Stop the scabs?"
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Re: Anime Expo 2011 Anime Music Video Contest rules are up!

Postby madmallard » Fri Feb 11, 2011 6:40 am

In my view, the problem isn't confined to AMVs.

Any endeavor that claims to be fan-based or fan-promoting i feel has a credibility problem with offering cash prizes.

A prize in a con shouldn't be cash, it should be something that in some way enhances the fandom it derives from. The prize can be very valuable, thats not the issue. Cash is a cop-out to me....

We'll just have to wait and see. I'm not its director, and I'm not its attendee, so anything else I have to say on the matter is only academic.
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Re: Anime Expo 2011 Anime Music Video Contest rules are up!

Postby The Wired Knight » Fri Feb 11, 2011 6:56 am

madmallard wrote:In my view, the problem isn't confined to AMVs.

Any endeavor that claims to be fan-based or fan-promoting i feel has a credibility problem with offering cash prizes.

A prize in a con shouldn't be cash, it should be something that in some way enhances the fandom it derives from. The prize can be very valuable, thats not the issue. Cash is a cop-out to me....

We'll just have to wait and see. I'm not its director, and I'm not its attendee, so anything else I have to say on the matter is only academic.


Agreed, although there are still legal issues I don't feel there is as big a problem when you're just offering some prizes. Especially over the few occasions when the con is sponsored. Technically I guess this is making a big deal over very little though, now that I think about it. Making a profit really goes to damages in a copyright matter, since there are presumed damages anway for an infringement regardless of what you were doing (provided there is in fact an infringement). Showing an earning of profit or at least an intent to do so certainly won't make things any better and likely will make them somewhat worse but at the end of the day it's not the make or break factor here.

Realistically I think the bigger concern on the prizes is how much attention it draws. People who aren't operating for a profit don't attact as much attention as people that do or people that deprive the copyright holder of a profit. Prior to this we (arguably) were doing neither so there was less attention. But some article saying "Hey, you can make $10k by using someone else's work" certainly won't attract the right kind of attention.
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Re: Anime Expo 2011 Anime Music Video Contest rules are up!

Postby Adv1sor » Fri Feb 11, 2011 10:13 am

This is all very interesting and the cash prizes really adds a another aspect to the contest. But it begs one very important question.

Can I ship my entry via UPS?


Will the cash increase or decrease the number of entries? Of course, everyone wants money. But what about those that are not planning to attend? I would hate to see that I won but wasn't there to collect...
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Re: Anime Expo 2011 Anime Music Video Contest rules are up!

Postby Castor Troy » Fri Feb 11, 2011 11:19 am

Adv1sor wrote:This is all very interesting and the cash prizes really adds a another aspect to the contest. But it begs one very important question.

Can I ship my entry via UPS?


The rules pretty much say no UPS.

Adv1sor wrote:Will the cash increase or decrease the number of entries? Of course, everyone wants money. But what about those that are not planning to attend? I would hate to see that I won but wasn't there to collect...


Who knows? But one thing I know is the winners will be richer people than before. |:>
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Re: Anime Expo 2011 Anime Music Video Contest rules are up!

Postby angelx03 » Fri Feb 11, 2011 4:07 pm

Castor Troy wrote:What a beautiful media circus this has and will become. :asd:

My 4 day badge and hotel are all ready for this July.


You made one heck of an impact with that cosplay thing. Now some peeps in ANN think you're drama queens! :|
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Re: Anime Expo 2011 Anime Music Video Contest rules are up!

Postby Castor Troy » Fri Feb 11, 2011 5:52 pm

angelx03 wrote:
Castor Troy wrote:What a beautiful media circus this has and will become. :asd:

My 4 day badge and hotel are all ready for this July.


You made one heck of an impact with that cosplay thing. Now some peeps in ANN think you're drama queens! :|


Because we are! :shark:
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