machina21 wrote:Hmmm...
1500 will get you a nice rig. 2500 will get you an even better rig and some software, especially if you can swing a student discount. Im not gonna sweat it too much, because I know I won't win, doh!
nice rig?
machina21 wrote:Hmmm...
1500 will get you a nice rig. 2500 will get you an even better rig and some software, especially if you can swing a student discount. Im not gonna sweat it too much, because I know I won't win, doh!
Castor Troy wrote:I only heard this from a friend, but is it true that the cosplay prize is $10,000?!
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BasharOfTheAges wrote:I'm just kinda surprised the lawyers are cool with this.I'd keep it hush hush from the MPAA though.EDIT - I guess rule 13 actually fixes this problem if you enforce it (you have a lawyer; can't exactly claim ignorance). Looking forward to all the creative commons (or other copyleft) audio that'll be used in this contest. Those small artists need all the exposure they can get.
Quite the ethics dilemma. You guys certainly know how to make things interesting - those are some amazing amounts.
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If you want to stop being the black sheep, stop asking your attendees to essentially perjure themselves (thus voiding the contract) by entering the contest. As you have your rules written now, nobody can enter without explicitly gaining rights from all the license holders of the music and anime they use. Knowing how this community works for the time you've been here and the hundreds of threads on the subject, you have no reasonable right to assume anyone has done this without evidence. If you fail to enforce this rule with the same due diligence you enforce the others (like frame rate, resolution, etc.), you are being inherently unfair, biased, and unethical.
DigitalPanther wrote:Castor Troy wrote:I only heard this from a friend, but is it true that the cosplay prize is $10,000?!
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Yes it is true.
-DP
BasharOfTheAges wrote:If you want to stop being the black sheep, stop asking your attendees to essentially perjure themselves (thus voiding the contract) by entering the contest. As you have your rules written now, nobody can enter without explicitly gaining rights from all the license holders of the music and anime they use. Knowing how this community works for the time you've been here and the hundreds of threads on the subject, you have no reasonable right to assume anyone has done this without evidence. If you fail to enforce this rule with the same due diligence you enforce the others (like frame rate, resolution, etc.), you are being inherently unfair, biased, and unethical.
Kazemon15 wrote:While I think it's awesome and all... I don't know about this...
It just means everyone is gonna be entering to win now and that just kinda turns me off....makes me feel insignificant knowing that I'll never again be able to get into anime expo and I almost don't want to enter now cuz everyone else will enter.
I also fear that if someone winning over a popular anime and not a well edited one and got the prize money, it would make the rest of us feel like we aren't worth much. It'll be like a big slap in the face, "You can't win cuz you like unpopular anime, so therefore, you suck and here's some money to rub it in your face too."
xstylus wrote:BasharOfTheAges wrote:If you want to stop being the black sheep, stop asking your attendees to essentially perjure themselves (thus voiding the contract) by entering the contest. As you have your rules written now, nobody can enter without explicitly gaining rights from all the license holders of the music and anime they use. Knowing how this community works for the time you've been here and the hundreds of threads on the subject, you have no reasonable right to assume anyone has done this without evidence. If you fail to enforce this rule with the same due diligence you enforce the others (like frame rate, resolution, etc.), you are being inherently unfair, biased, and unethical.
I'm not entirely clear on what you're getting at. Rules akin to this are standard in most contests. The rule basically says this: "You're responsible for getting clearance to use the content you used for your vid. We won't ask questions, but if any rights holder raises an issue, it's your problem, not AX's."
So what are you asking? Is it that you want AX to indemnify you or something? Because no convention will do that.
That said, AX does have an ASCAP license, plus several US anime companies are on record saying they don't object to AMVs. That doesn't alleviate 100% of the legal issues, but it's closer to being legal than posting on YouTube or even the org.
Kazemon15 wrote:While I think it's awesome and all... I don't know about this...
It just means everyone is gonna be entering to win now and that just kinda turns me off....makes me feel insignificant knowing that I'll never again be able to get into anime expo and I almost don't want to enter now cuz everyone else will enter.
I also fear that if someone winning over a popular anime and not a well edited one and got the prize money, it would make the rest of us feel like we aren't worth much. It'll be like a big slap in the face, "You can't win cuz you like unpopular anime, so therefore, you suck and here's some money to rub it in your face too."
BasharOfTheAges wrote:xstylus wrote:BasharOfTheAges wrote:If you want to stop being the black sheep, stop asking your attendees to essentially perjure themselves (thus voiding the contract) by entering the contest. As you have your rules written now, nobody can enter without explicitly gaining rights from all the license holders of the music and anime they use. Knowing how this community works for the time you've been here and the hundreds of threads on the subject, you have no reasonable right to assume anyone has done this without evidence. If you fail to enforce this rule with the same due diligence you enforce the others (like frame rate, resolution, etc.), you are being inherently unfair, biased, and unethical.
I'm not entirely clear on what you're getting at. Rules akin to this are standard in most contests. The rule basically says this: "You're responsible for getting clearance to use the content you used for your vid. We won't ask questions, but if any rights holder raises an issue, it's your problem, not AX's."
So what are you asking? Is it that you want AX to indemnify you or something? Because no convention will do that.
That said, AX does have an ASCAP license, plus several US anime companies are on record saying they don't object to AMVs. That doesn't alleviate 100% of the legal issues, but it's closer to being legal than posting on YouTube or even the org.
No, the text of rule 13 as it's been written requires you assert and affirm they do do hold those rights prior to the con (at the time of submitting), which is an outright lie in the vast majority of cases. I'm sure the idea was to say "we're not responsible if you lie about that" but gambits like that doesn't exactly hold weight if there's evidence (like this conversation for instance) showing that good faith does not and should not exist on that point. Other cons get away without that exact language. Your ASCAP frees and relation with the anime industry protect you - you don't need to have the submitter falsely assert that he or she is in possession of distribution rights themselves as well. It's legally dubious at best, and with introducing money into the equation, you don't want to have the looming spectre of for-profit copyright violation hanging over things.
To clarify, most cons ignore the point completely in their rules, your rules ask you to outright state that you do hold them. There is a HUGE difference.
BasharOfTheAges wrote:xstylus wrote:BasharOfTheAges wrote:If you want to stop being the black sheep, stop asking your attendees to essentially perjure themselves (thus voiding the contract) by entering the contest. As you have your rules written now, nobody can enter without explicitly gaining rights from all the license holders of the music and anime they use. Knowing how this community works for the time you've been here and the hundreds of threads on the subject, you have no reasonable right to assume anyone has done this without evidence. If you fail to enforce this rule with the same due diligence you enforce the others (like frame rate, resolution, etc.), you are being inherently unfair, biased, and unethical.
I'm not entirely clear on what you're getting at. Rules akin to this are standard in most contests. The rule basically says this: "You're responsible for getting clearance to use the content you used for your vid. We won't ask questions, but if any rights holder raises an issue, it's your problem, not AX's."
So what are you asking? Is it that you want AX to indemnify you or something? Because no convention will do that.
That said, AX does have an ASCAP license, plus several US anime companies are on record saying they don't object to AMVs. That doesn't alleviate 100% of the legal issues, but it's closer to being legal than posting on YouTube or even the org.
No, the text of rule 13 as it's been written requires you assert and affirm they do do hold those rights prior to the con (at the time of submitting), which is an outright lie in the vast majority of cases. I'm sure the idea was to say "we're not responsible if you lie about that" but gambits like that doesn't exactly hold weight if there's evidence (like this conversation for instance) showing that good faith does not and should not exist on that point. Other cons get away without that exact language. Your ASCAP frees and relation with the anime industry protect you - you don't need to have the submitter falsely assert that he or she is in possession of distribution rights themselves as well. It's legally dubious at best, and with introducing money into the equation, you don't want to have the looming spectre of for-profit copyright violation hanging over things.
To clarify, most cons ignore the point completely in their rules, your rules ask you to outright state that you do hold them. There is a HUGE difference.
Castor Troy wrote:Bashar, I know you've never been to or entered AX (to my knowledge). Why do you care?
I always assumed you'd be one of the people who watches AX burn in flames from the sidelines.

Kazemon15 wrote:^_^ Thanks, Xstylus, thanks, DP.
It is true, I do lack alot of self confidence. I tend to think everyone is better than me. While I do want to win, as it is my dream to win with an unpopular anime, I think the best feeling is actually just getting in and showcasting the anime I love in hopes people will get interested in it and buy them (I didn't know my Switchback AMV made you buy the anime, xstylus, that makes me feel like a winner already.)
I both love and hate competition. I love it because you get to see how the audience reacts to all the vids including your own and wonder which will win. I also hate it because there's only going to be won winner technically, but feel that everyone is a winner when comments such as "I bought/saw the anime because I saw this at such and such con" on youtube or the org. Just the money issue, I feel will erase that excitement and feeling of proudness just to see it on the big screen, you know? I feel it might make people feel bitter and forget why they enjoy making AMVs in the first place.
I know I'm a good editor, but sometimes feel I'm not good enough to win. I always try to better myself each year in hopes I can get up there with Rider, Night and Castor. Even my friend Hagaren. I hope this year, I can.
I'll still enter, but my hopes of getting in will be dramatically lower, despite me making my best AMV so far this year.
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