JaddziaDax wrote:Go out find popular amv and put it in the catalog. You want to talk about people not having the control after they upload, if we were to "stock our shelves" the way libraries do then we would have more pissed off people.
Arigatomina wrote:If the org were a library... It would be out there looking for new vids and asking the editors' permission to host them here on the org.
...and I'd like to see more viewer related features on this site.
Please tell me you are only speaking for yourself.
I bet a lot of authors would stop writing books if they heard that all the libraries were going to shut down.
...what about a private library? I'm sure that a school library isn't there to specifically supply books to anyone, it's there as a resource for the people attending the school. Not just anyone can go to a school library and borrow books.
Even if some of the aspects of the org are unlike a PUBLIC library that doesn't mean that the org isn't essentially a library of amvs.
BasharOfTheAges wrote:It's called the first sale doctrine.
godix wrote:And how many times have we seen videos reuploaded and available on dozens of different accounts?
Arigatomina wrote:BasharOfTheAges wrote:It's called the first sale doctrine.
Thanks. I'm googling that asap. I want to know how it works with video rentals as well. And what exactly constitutes "private screening" on that screen that pops up at the start of every movie. ;p
Arigatomina wrote:If so, they should do it now. Libraries are becoming as out of date these days as newspapers. It's all digital now. Why bother going to a library when you can download the ebook without leaving your home?
Okay? I never did and would never suggest that the org take people's videos without permission.
So would I. But like you said, the current view is that this site is for editors only. I'm talking about what the org actually is (in my opinion), not what I'd like it to be.
No, I was talking about the people who have trickled away from the org in the last few years, around the same time ops died out and QCs became something you hold your breath and hope for. Those editors.
If so, they should do it now. Libraries are becoming as out of date these days as newspapers. It's all digital now. Why bother going to a library when you can download the ebook without leaving your home?
Why buy a heavy space consuming stack of paper when you can read your news online? Why bother checking movies out at the library when you can download and burn your own copy in a few minutes?
That's why I kept harping on the fact that libraries don't need a lot of visitors to continue to be supported. They get fewer visitors every year just like magazines get fewer subscribers. We maintain libraries because we like the idea, not because they're still being used the way they were intended to be.
True. But the org isn't that kind of library, either, because anyone can come to the org and download videos. They don't even have to sign up if they use the direct download links.
The org doesn't even fulfill that requirement since it lists tons of vids that were never actually made.
Smack me for being off-topic
JaddziaDax wrote:You presume to speak for all of them?
You said:
"Editors might not continue to make amvs if viewers stopped visiting the places where amvs are shared. Editors might not continue to make amvs if org and tube style amv-sharing places no longer existed."
Some people still like the feel of the paper in their hand. They like the smell of the ink and glue. The second question also assumes that a person has access to a computer connected to the internet and then knows where and how to download movies.
Actually we don't need a lot of visitors to be supported either, although a lot of us act like it's the end of the hobby if we don't get more.
Not every video has a direct link, an indirect link or even a local link. The links are extra. It's the listing that is the essential information about the video.
how do you know every single video listed without a link wasn't made?
Arigatomina wrote:I get the feeling everyone's intentionally missing my point. (Except Oto, props for understanding my English). Thanks.

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