Timelessblurr wrote:this discution kind of make you think of how some of the crap the United Stated did to japanise was bout as bad as the crap hilter did to the jews
Wykith wrote:You can blow up a country and call it a skirmish. The mobilization of troops into someone else's country is an act of war. Blowing things up in someones else's country is an act of war. So we were either at war, or we are terrorists.
jonmartensen wrote:When you stated that, what were you refering to as not believing WWII was "justice"? The US was "neutral" when it came to WWII until the bombing of Pearl Harbor by Japan. The anniversary for that was just 5 days ago, Dec. 7th for those who didn't pay attention in history class. For the US, the Japanese did start the war. The US entered the war as retaliation and with the insight that the "Axis of Evil" did not intend to stop at anything short of world power.
jonmartensen wrote:Aether: You kept an un-biased view on most of this, and were rather reasonable. I commend you for maintaining an un-objectified view.
MrOni wrote:We lost the korean war? Or desert storm? Name one major engagement won by the vietnamese army? Libya? Granada? We have been kicking ass and taking names my friend. Afghanistan is a shithole and we are doing whats right. You and milo must go to the same school.
kthulhu wrote:Mmmmm.... I'd say that the US and it's allies (along with the Soviets) were definitely on the good side in WWII. Allied forces and leaders weren't the ones invading neighboring countries (well, maybe Stalin did a bit, but that's a whole 'nother can of worms) and rounding up millions of people for torment and worse just because they fit a certain racial profile and were a convenient scapegoat to rally against. If anything, I'd say the US was too slow to get into WWII. The Allied forces have (or had) little to apologize for, in my book.
Not to say that war is pretty or glamourous, but when things shake out, you can look back and say "well, they were fighting for good, they were fighting for evil". It's not always that black and white, but it's not always muddled, either.
kthulhu wrote:One thing to think about the atomic bomb droppings: they showed the world the horror that they can wrought. The hesitation to use them again that the A-bombs created is a good thing.

MrOni wrote:lOl this thread has gotten way out hand. Aethur all I'm going to do is ask you to tell me the difference between the Vietcong and the Nva.

jonmartensen wrote:Wykith wrote:I can't believe you would claim that WWII was "justice". I hate to say it but in this way, Sept. 11 was "justice" as well.
When you stated that, what were you refering to as not believing WWII was "justice"?
CaTaClYsM wrote:You are overlooking that fact that the japanese were WARNED before the nuclear bombs were dropped, and when you look at the fact that they didn't surrender right after the first one, think about how far they were willing to go if those bombs WERENT dropped.
And those biological wepons the japanese were testing on real people werent speculation or opinions. You can saythe US isn't the goodguy of WW2 all you want, but it WAS the lesser of 2 evils. That cannot be denied.
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