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Re: Copyright

Postby Bauzi » Fri Nov 26, 2010 7:37 am

Zarxrax wrote:The companies are just too lazy.
Youtube has tools that automatically find infringing material for the companies, so the companies dont have to actually do anything except sit on their butts and push a button, and its gone.
Here, they might have to actually send a letter or something.

I think they would have to invest time, ressources and money to sue as and they won't get it back. This is a non profit site. There isn't a lot money to get.

In case of YouTube you have a huge company with a huge income to sue. You could get millions.

What I hate the most is the fascism and censorship in all these YouTube copyright enforecements. I live in Austria and why the hell can't I just watch some video. They are not avaible in my country? Well f**** you too assholes! What's up with this shit? :dino:
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Re: Copyright

Postby Arigatomina » Fri Nov 26, 2010 6:21 pm

HalOfBorg wrote:I just re-uploaded my "Sub Ruler" video to youtube, with nothing of the anime in the title or anywhere, and almost instantly got an email saying:

Your video, AMV - Sub Ruler: Whale Wars - by HalOfBorg, may have content that is owned or licensed by BandaiChannel.

Why did you have to reupload it? If they've already taken the video down once, then maybe they have the title on a blacklist. Or they may have you on that list. Their word searches probably aren't intelligent enough to read 'amv' and 'sub' in a title and assume it's Blue Submarine footage.

Or I'm just plain wrong because times and technology has changed. ;p I don't know what new tricks are being used these days. Someone may have devised a way to slip an identifying bug into dvd footage, or attach it to the fansubs and raws people use in their amvs. With all the decryption, encoding and conversion that goes into prepping video footage, I just assume it would be harder to design a bug that would still be intact by the time the footage is chopped up, encoded yet again, and uploaded to the tube. Even if something like that does exist, the tube probably only uses it for a few series. There are way too many amvs and full anime episodes that remain untouched over there for it to be a widespread practice.
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Re: Copyright

Postby Nya-chan Production » Fri Nov 26, 2010 8:08 pm

Arigatomina wrote:Or I'm just plain wrong because times and technology has changed. ;p I don't know what new tricks are being used these days. Someone may have devised a way to slip an identifying bug into dvd footage, or attach it to the fansubs and raws people use in their amvs. With all the decryption, encoding and conversion that goes into prepping video footage, I just assume it would be harder to design a bug that would still be intact by the time the footage is chopped up, encoded yet again, and uploaded to the tube. Even if something like that does exist, the tube probably only uses it for a few series. There are way too many amvs and full anime episodes that remain untouched over there for it to be a widespread practice.

Believe me, anime encoders would notice ;x

More probably the just follow the people who have some record already. Also some kind of pattern match, maybe for video, surely for audio.
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Re: Copyright

Postby Micio2 » Sat Nov 27, 2010 3:07 pm

pan_dbgt01 wrote:...what makes the ORG free from copyright infringement laws?


Besides fact that no one has 007 license, it is a fact that exists people like me, who purchased licensed full series of anime and music CDs, because I knew of them thanks to AMV. Wanna laugh? I purchased Evanescence CDs because I first listen to them in some AMV, and I liked their music. Same happened with Capt. Tylor anime, I liked it and purchased the dvds then. Same thing with lots of other music and anime then. People like me are a market, and AMV may be seen as some free marketing for anime or music bands.

I read about another thread about how to set the Org more noticed, I think that drawing too much 'attention' to us may be not so a good idea. What Org needs, imho, is being recognized as the place where the amv makers can get home, and maybe also a place where to found a better quality version of the video you like. I disagree on making video upload more easy than is now on site. As is, it is simple enough, even it needs actions by the user who wants it. Again, imho, I think Org can be seen as a better place to find things you already know you want to find, but not to see casual amv by fast searches, as utubb.
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Re: Copyright

Postby Kawatta-kun » Sat Nov 27, 2010 3:18 pm

Micio2 wrote:What Org needs, imho, is being recognized as the place where the amv makers can get home, and maybe also a place where to found a better quality version of the video you like. I disagree on making video upload more easy than is now on site. As is, it is simple enough, even it needs actions by the user who wants it. Again, imho, I think Org can be seen as a better place to find things you already know you want to find, but not to see casual amv by fast searches, as utubb.


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Re: Copyright

Postby Dark Lord of Debate » Tue Nov 30, 2010 1:21 am

You know, if your AMVs are blocked on YouTube you can always just dispute the Content ID or file a counter-notice and get them restored, rather than trying to figure out how to evade the fingerprinting technology (which is pretty hard). I recently made a website which provides a complete Guide to YouTube Removals, which will tell you exactly how to do it if you don't know how. In my view, AMVs are highly likely to be fair use at least under US law (which is what YouTube has to follow as a US company), especially in regard to the video content; so AMV editors are perfectly justified in disputing it especially when it's the video content rather than the audio that's causing a video to be blocked.
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