Effects Vs. Raw;

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Re: Effects Vs. Raw;

Postby Magnus » Thu Nov 25, 2010 11:41 am

ZetZu wrote:When it comes to AMV's mostly I get bored of effect-less videos, because most of the time it's spammed with random cross-fades instead. If a video, however, uses hard-cuts of the well placed sort,
a video can be stunningly enjoyable to me (koop's "paper image" for example). But most of the time when I watch so called "raw" AMV's, I either have to like the anime(s) used or the combination of sources in general.
However as I mentioned, if the video is well executed with its placements of cuts, scene selection and the 2 sources makes justice to one another, I might enjoy it if it is at the level of making me care for it.

Might sound harsh, but nowadays I mainly watch AMV's of animes I like, that way I'll almost always enjoy the video.
Of course I won't always like how it was made, but I usually give out pointers (editing-wise) if so.


So yeah,
Basically I enjoy the more flashy, fresh, experimental-visual-experience sort of videos.
Not saything the one is better than the other. I just care more for nice advance visuals than stock cross-fades.


Also, of course the video featuring heavy effects must be well thought through.
The editor at hand also needs to know what the heck he/she is doing, and have some sense of "designers taste".
I'll rephrase myself, I enjoy original and creative effect-filled videos.
If the effects are the same old boring ones all spammed at once, I'll close it down after a few seconds + skimming. :beer:
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Re: Effects Vs. Raw;

Postby godix » Thu Nov 25, 2010 12:15 pm

We've already seen the anime, so without effects your video will be boring. Real editors use effects. The more the better. Like this one amv. It was all like woosh, zoom with effects. And I was all like whoa awesome. Then that guitar thingies popped up and went dun dun DUN dun then those box thingies went zooming by and twirling around and shit. Oh god, then the hexagons popped up and I was like 'I just got a stiffie'. Then there was the circle with those thingies going around and I blew my load. Seriously, it was go great I barely even noticed there was anime in the video. Without effects I would have just been like 'Saw it already *yawn*'.

And that's why you simply must have effects. Raw editing is for faggots and idiots who think we give a shit about the anime. Fuck the anime, we just wanna see pretty boxes flying around.
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Re: Effects Vs. Raw;

Postby OtakuGray » Thu Nov 25, 2010 12:28 pm

im not sure if you are trolling ...

but thats the best explanation of effect editing ive ever seen. :ying:
godix wrote:Like this one amv. It was all like woosh, zoom with effects. And I was all like whoa awesome. Then that guitar thingies popped up and went dun dun DUN dun then those box thingies went zooming by and twirling around and shit. Oh god, then the hexagons popped up and I was like 'I just got a stiffie'. Then there was the circle with those thingies going around and I blew my load.


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Re: Effects Vs. Raw;

Postby Enigma » Thu Nov 25, 2010 12:53 pm

GodIX isn't a troll, he's that grumpy old creepy guy living down your street
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Re: Effects Vs. Raw;

Postby OtakuGray » Thu Nov 25, 2010 3:13 pm

Enigma wrote:GodIX isn't a troll, he's that grumpy old creepy guy living down your street

:up:
godix wrote:Like this one amv. It was all like woosh, zoom with effects. And I was all like whoa awesome. Then that guitar thingies popped up and went dun dun DUN dun then those box thingies went zooming by and twirling around and shit. Oh god, then the hexagons popped up and I was like 'I just got a stiffie'. Then there was the circle with those thingies going around and I blew my load.


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Re: Effects Vs. Raw;

Postby Animated » Thu Nov 25, 2010 4:23 pm

HardcRAWr :dino:
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Re: Effects Vs. Raw;

Postby Nya-chan Production » Thu Nov 25, 2010 4:36 pm

godix wrote:We've already seen the anime, so without effects your video will be boring. Real editors use effects. The more the better. Like this one amv. It was all like woosh, zoom with effects. And I was all like whoa awesome. Then that guitar thingies popped up and went dun dun DUN dun then those box thingies went zooming by and twirling around and shit. Oh god, then the hexagons popped up and I was like 'I just got a stiffie'. Then there was the circle with those thingies going around and I blew my load. Seriously, it was go great I barely even noticed there was anime in the video. Without effects I would have just been like 'Saw it already *yawn*'.

And that's why you simply must have effects. Raw editing is for faggots and idiots who think we give a shit about the anime. Fuck the anime, we just wanna see pretty boxes flying around.

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Re: Effects Vs. Raw;

Postby Mastamind » Thu Nov 25, 2010 5:04 pm

godix wrote:i dont like effects

Actually, your description is the way most people see it... The flashier it looks, the more attention the video tends to get.

I personally don't have an unhealthy emotional attachment to the anime, so I don't care if an editor "butchers" the show by using effects. The tube or Akross mentality might endorse them but I personally don't like effects for effects' sake. However, if they compliment a unique style or idea then yeah, I'd prefer an "effect" video over a raw one. I won't mimic others with a generic response but I don't care about effects for effects' sake... it shouldn't be any more attractive due to the fact that it has effects, but if the effects are executed well then they're probably helping as opposed to doing harm. Still, I might just rate a video higher if only for the effort factor. :up:
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Re: Effects Vs. Raw;

Postby Falconone » Thu Nov 25, 2010 5:31 pm

hm... ok i was most time one, who didnt use many effects. (and i am not good in it)
But iam not someone who dont like vids with effects. BUT i saw often that some people put randrom effects on randrom points of the song, and that sucks. For me its important that the effect fits, so i think that this part of the video cant be without it. Also i like simple videos, with a nice story and a good combination of song and scenes.
... ok i should say anything more XD did someone understand what i want to say??? lol
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Re: Effects Vs. Raw;

Postby Sephiroth » Thu Nov 25, 2010 9:09 pm

To paraphrase. Use effects when appropriate they are a tool like everything else, and like any tool they can be used the wrong way.
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Re: Effects Vs. Raw;

Postby pan_dbgt01 » Thu Nov 25, 2010 10:44 pm

I myself begin editing raw. I then add fade outs when appropriate, cross fade scenes together if they seem out of sync and I think they are the best choice. If I can't match the beat in some parts I may throw in a few effects to accent the video. I change with each video, it depends on the anime and music.
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Re: Effects Vs. Raw;

Postby MycathatesyouAMV » Thu Nov 25, 2010 10:56 pm

Depends. Basically all there is to it for me. I'm normally raw with a tint of light effects.
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Re: Effects Vs. Raw;

Postby JaddziaDax » Fri Nov 26, 2010 1:51 am

I'm too lazy to do effects... however if the effects fit the video then I can enjoy them, but if they are just there to blind you with their blindeyness then I don't like them O.o

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Re: Effects Vs. Raw;

Postby Knowname » Fri Nov 26, 2010 1:56 am

godix wrote:We've already seen the anime, so without effects your video will be boring. Real editors use effects. The more the better. Like this one amv. It was all like woosh, zoom with effects. And I was all like whoa awesome. Then that guitar thingies popped up and went dun dun DUN dun then those box thingies went zooming by and twirling around and shit. Oh god, then the hexagons popped up and I was like 'I just got a stiffie'. Then there was the circle with those thingies going around and I blew my load. Seriously, it was go great I barely even noticed there was anime in the video. Without effects I would have just been like 'Saw it already *yawn*'.

And that's why you simply must have effects. Raw editing is for faggots and idiots who think we give a shit about the anime. Fuck the anime, we just wanna see pretty boxes flying around.


OtakuGray wrote:im not sure if you are trolling ...

but thats the best explanation of effect editing ive ever seen. :ying:


on the other hand, many of 'us' (meaning just the hardcore amv fans and video editors in general) HAVE seen all the effects as well! so that argument really has no validity at all.
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Re: Effects Vs. Raw;

Postby JudgeHolden » Fri Nov 26, 2010 12:14 pm

I like to make you blind with my blindiness.
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