Review - V37 - Why Should I Stick Around?

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Review - V37 - Why Should I Stick Around?

Postby CastielTheFallen » Tue Nov 23, 2010 10:48 pm

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I'm going to do this review a little differently. First off, I'm going to link to the video notes Here and expect you to read them. I'm also going to post a chunk of a review by Torankusu, a friend of mine who no longer edits or participates in this community. I will then post my own thoughts.

Torankusu's Review:
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Before I start my rant on how such a great video this is, I'll just seriously point out the actual good points in this video.

0:26-0:48 - The quality in this whole arc was just absolutely amazing, I'm surprised to even see scenes of the Saiyan Saga to be ripped and compressed in this sort of quality. It's unbelieveable, I even envy you for having this sort of footage lol. Everything is flawless.

1:31-1:35 - Now I'm sure I'm not the first one to say this, but Sweet Christmas this part is literally a knock off the seat action part. I should know I almost really did get punched off my chair, that was serious. This is my favorite part of the whole actual video. No matter how much I knew about DBZ somehow I did NOT see that coming, it was just so sudden and out of nowhere, as well as brought back just how hard and deep a punch Vegeta did to Jeice. Ever since I first saw that part I kept looping it back those few seconds and kept watching. Over, and over, and over again. Wonderful, wel thought of, I honestly couldn't have thought of it any better.

1:36-1:57 - Yeah, now this whole part was actually -FLUID-. What I mean by that is, everything matched with the beat so specifically and significantly without you even cutting the scenes up that much. It flowed with the scenes actually, seeing Vegeta actually THROWING the punch instead of suddenly seeing the fist on the face out of nowhere.

2:40-3:03 - Yeah, this is just about the same as what I just said the last arc. All fluid, all matched. It's a typical end, but a great end. BadThere aren't a lot, if any. But many could be explained in the general comments. But for real, the only bad thing about this video is...I wasn't the one that made it. GeneralOriginality - So sure, it's a DBZ video. And what more, a Vegeta video. But unlike many other people that base their originality scores on what anime they use, which I don't know why, I base my scores on the actual ideas of the video. Not the anime. So I don't care whether it's DBZ, if it's used well and creatively, I give it a great score. But as to why I give you that score is because this is very well not the first time I've seen a Vegeta tribute where it's all about himself, he don't care about anything, he's vindictive around others, and etc. Also has a very typical Vegeta tribute type of ending with his atonement, but it's a great ending that goes well with it since at the end of the song the artist screams.

Capture/Output Quality - I don't even think I need to describe myself here, I'm just gonna state it as what the score bar says. It looks like the digital master. You got flawless footage and quality, all throughout the video.

Sound Quality - Now I can't say much on detail about sound quality, but to my knowledge, the sound quality of the song is very well audated.

Action/Editing Sync - This is probably the main bulk of your video as to why I like it. Everything is as I said before, fluid. Everything matched perfectly almost by itself, especially the favorite part I mentioned on those very four seconds. And as you stated in your comments you made this video pure and simple, not hardly any effects at all, not a lot of cutting from one scene to another, just plain and simple. Which in some cases could be bad but in this case it's good, it all just depends on how you edit it and if it goes well. Though I will say there are some parts of the back-scratch sound in the song, some weren't exactly timed well enough to be put in sync.

Lip Sync - For the most part it was all well, but not a lot of lip syncs were exactly right. Like you would have Vegeta move his lips more than the amount of syllables in the lyrics, but have him stop at the right moment anyway.

Effort - The video is pretty simple and doesn't look that much hard at all to do, not a lot of thought but that's not a bad thing anywya. I love the way it was edited still and how plain and simple this Vegeta video is.

Re-viewable - Like the score I gave it, whenever I feel like watching a random video when bored, I sometimes turn to this video and just replay my favorite four seconds of the video where Vegeta just snuffs the hell out of Jeice especially. I never get tired of that. I even put this video in my PSP, which gives this video its actual credit it deserves.

Overall - It's a great video to watch from one time to another, but never for a long period of time. It's a great video, one of the more better Vegeta tributes but I still have yet to see THE best one out there yet. But yours is quite possibly up there on the list. I'm just surprised this video doesn't have a lot of opinions or hits at all, it deserves a lot more than what it's getting now. Even a few friends I showed this to that hardly likes DBZ anymore still finds this to be pretty good. Great job on this video man, I really hope you continue making videos sooner or later, I look forward to them. I'm also talking to a good friend of yours Vegeta119, so hopefully we could contact each other some time soon.

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Really, not much more need be said and I could pretty much echo his sentiments, but I do indeed have more to say about this video. When I was an up and coming noob, this man took me under his wing and taught me a lot of what I know today. This video has always been a great inspiration to me, and will continue to be for years to come. The word subtlety comes to mind, this video does everything fantastically in an in your face way, without you even noticing it. The pacing, the impact, the cut theory, it's all there, and it all makes for a seriously badass Vegeta video. Even if you aren't a dbz fan, I recommend you check this out, and if you ARE a dbz fan, i recommend, no, DEMAND that you check this the fuck out right, goddamn, now. Castor, Rider, that means you 2. This video is everything that a Dragonball Z video should be, and people should relax, take notes, and wait for that punch to knock you off your fucking seat.

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Re: Review - V37 - Why Should I Stick Around?

Postby -Reda- » Tue Nov 23, 2010 10:51 pm

Isn't this the kind of shit people post in responses to videos when they come out in the first place? This feels like a second announcement thread; I.E. pointless.
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Re: Review - V37 - Why Should I Stick Around?

Postby CastielTheFallen » Tue Nov 23, 2010 10:53 pm

-Reda- wrote:Isn't this the kind of shit people post in responses to videos when they come out in the first place? This feels like a second announcement thread; I.E. pointless.

It's a review, just like all the other review threads.
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Re: Review - V37 - Why Should I Stick Around?

Postby -Reda- » Tue Nov 23, 2010 10:54 pm

Arashinome wrote:
-Reda- wrote:Isn't this the kind of shit people post in responses to videos when they come out in the first place? This feels like a second announcement thread; I.E. pointless.

It's a review, just like all the other review threads.


There's other ones? Christ this place is fucking sad.
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Re: Review - V37 - Why Should I Stick Around?

Postby Castor Troy » Tue Nov 23, 2010 10:57 pm

I enjoyed this video quite a bit. One of the better Vegeta tributes around.

My only gripe was the zoom and stretch effects and some of the lip sync, but otherwise, a solid DBZ video. Kinda hard to believe it was done 6 years ago and I didn't notice it back then. I would have definitely downloaded it for sure back in the day.

Thanks for posting this. :)
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Re: Review - V37 - Why Should I Stick Around?

Postby CastielTheFallen » Tue Nov 23, 2010 11:03 pm

Castor Troy wrote:I enjoyed this video quite a bit. One of the better Vegeta tributes around.

My only gripe was the zoom and stretch effects and some of the lip sync, but otherwise, a solid DBZ video. Kinda hard to believe it was done 6 years ago and I didn't notice it back then. I would have definitely downloaded it for sure back in the day.

Thanks for posting this. :)

That was actually his first premiere video, which explains some of the nooby transitions. Pretty old video too, though. I think it's stood the test of time rather well. Anyway, glad you enjoyed it castor, I posted this mainly thinking of you. <3

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Re: Review - V37 - Why Should I Stick Around?

Postby Enigma » Tue Nov 23, 2010 11:14 pm

My own personal bias with this video shall not let me say anything bad about it.


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Re: Review - V37 - Why Should I Stick Around?

Postby Knowname » Wed Nov 24, 2010 12:13 pm

-Reda- wrote:Isn't this the kind of shit people post in responses to videos when they come out in the first place? This feels like a second announcement thread; I.E. pointless.

It's a twist on the same idea... especially the old videos, it just feels fresh to hear just what vets in this hobby think of as really great videos. If anything this isn't announcements, their just more recomendations.
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Re: Review - V37 - Why Should I Stick Around?

Postby -Reda- » Wed Nov 24, 2010 2:52 pm

Knowname wrote:
-Reda- wrote:Isn't this the kind of shit people post in responses to videos when they come out in the first place? This feels like a second announcement thread; I.E. pointless.

It's a twist on the same idea... especially the old videos, it just feels fresh to hear just what vets in this hobby think of as really great videos. If anything this isn't announcements, their just more recomendations.

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Re: Review - V37 - Why Should I Stick Around?

Postby Nya-chan Production » Wed Nov 24, 2010 4:21 pm

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-Reda- wrote:Isn't this the kind of shit people post in responses to videos when they come out in the first place? This feels like a second announcement thread; I.E. pointless.

It's a twist on the same idea... especially the old videos, it just feels fresh to hear just what vets in this hobby think of as really great videos. If anything this isn't announcements, their just more recomendations.

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Re: Review - V37 - Why Should I Stick Around?

Postby Knowname » Wed Nov 24, 2010 5:43 pm

just watched this video, way too much literal allusions for me. And this coming from the editor that makes videos FULL of literal allusions. But this concept primarily deals with the abstract (why should I stick around? even when he's taking off it's just a literal allusion to him leaving the room BUT what it's really saying is I don't need to be here... It simply should have been a more ABSTRACT reference to a AGGRAVATED man). I'm sure DBZ could have made a great source for this concept. And it's RIGHT THERE. But in the end it's SO f*ed up that it SUCKS.

Sorry this video wasn't good back than and it's still not good now.
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Re: Review - V37 - Why Should I Stick Around?

Postby CastielTheFallen » Wed Nov 24, 2010 5:52 pm

Knowname wrote:just watched this video, way too much literal allusions for me. And this coming from the editor that makes videos FULL of literal allusions. But this concept primarily deals with the abstract (why should I stick around? even when he's taking off it's just a literal allusion to him leaving the room BUT what it's really saying is I don't need to be here... It simply should have been a more ABSTRACT reference to a AGGRAVATED man). I'm sure DBZ could have made a great source for this concept. And it's RIGHT THERE. But in the end it's SO f*ed up that it SUCKS.

Sorry this video wasn't good back than and it's still not good now.

lolwat? I think we'll have to agree to disagree BIG TIME on this one, buddy. There's a lot to this video you apparently aren't seeing.
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Re: Review - V37 - Why Should I Stick Around?

Postby Knowname » Wed Nov 24, 2010 6:55 pm

and don't want to see :| yeah I simply got 20 seconds in and those kind of logical overlooks (I think a few scenes later it said something that was the TOTAL OPPOSITE of what was shown!) just annoy the hell out of me.

Mostly because I did them once. Only once, cuz I saw how stupid they were when I made it.
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Re: Review - V37 - Why Should I Stick Around?

Postby CrackTheSky » Wed Nov 24, 2010 6:58 pm

I didn't like this at all. I will say this: I don't care for DBZ, and I hated the song, so I admit I wasn't really able to get into it. But beyond that, it just bored me. The editing, while technically sound, was really predictable and typical of similar action videos. I feel it relied too much on hard-cut beat-matching, which is a style I really don't care for. I got the concept and everything, and it came through really well, but I couldn't help feeling as I watched it that it was all just so plain and, to me, uninteresting.

Also, in response to Knowname's comments, while I too tend to dislike it when non-comedy videos go overboard with literal sync, I don't feel this video qualifies in that regard. There were a few times where I thought that, yeah, that scene was a little cheesy there considering the lyrics, but I've seen far worse. For me at least, that was a non-issue in this video.
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Re: Review - V37 - Why Should I Stick Around?

Postby Knowname » Wed Nov 24, 2010 7:39 pm

CrackTheSky wrote:I too tend to dislike it when non-comedy videos go overboard with literal sync, I don't feel this video qualifies in that regard. There were a few times where I thought that, yeah, that scene was a little cheesy there considering the lyrics, but I've seen far worse. For me at least, that was a non-issue in this video.

Here's my reaction to that, I didn't say that! no I didn't no no no noooooooo I didn't noooooo no no. Hell no would I say that, nearly every video I make displays this quality lol

And that is why I didn't like this. like maybe 30% of it absolutely pissed me off! Psh... I wish that I could fly, yet their FLYING in EVERY single instance! lol I LOVED the other 70% I did, but as such THAT IS NOT ENOUGH!! If it's something I would make it HAS to be something that I WOULD MAKE! 100% or I am not satisfied! lol ok...
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