AMV Taboos/Stereotypes/Cliches: Old and New

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Re: AMV Taboos/Stereotypes/Cliches: Old and New

Postby Saisenseistudio » Sat Nov 13, 2010 8:33 am

'bloody anime+metal music=Emo'

Another one would be 'if you're an AE user, you are cheating.'lol
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Re: AMV Taboos/Stereotypes/Cliches: Old and New

Postby Ikore » Sat Nov 13, 2010 8:46 am

gotegenks wrote:
Ikore wrote:also- TV Simulator
i don't see tv sim on the Org at all unless it's to ACTUALLY simulate a tv in a video.

AMV world is not all around the org :nose: , and the plug is not use to simulated a tv, most of the times is just there. :|

but if this is about Org, Announcement a really "bad" AMV, like it was the "my last amv", "super duper ultimate mega mix" bla bla bla :asd:

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Re: AMV Taboos/Stereotypes/Cliches: Old and New

Postby gotegenks » Sat Nov 13, 2010 10:50 am

Ikore wrote:AMV world is not all around the org :nose: , and the plug is not use to simulated a tv, most of the times is just there. :|

well if you're sick of tv sim, come to the Org! i don't often consider youtube vids when i'm discussing something here.
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Re: AMV Taboos/Stereotypes/Cliches: Old and New

Postby Sephiroth » Sun Nov 14, 2010 5:37 pm

"Don't you dare even mention youtube"

and

"all videos on youtube are shit"

I thought this was stupid when it started and was amazed how long and really how much more fracturing it was to the community that youtube couldn't be used at all. Get why it happened ,just still think it was stupid.
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Re: AMV Taboos/Stereotypes/Cliches: Old and New

Postby TritioAFB » Sun Nov 14, 2010 5:45 pm

"WMM sucks"

I thought that until I met some WMM editors. Amvs are all about effects?
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Re: AMV Taboos/Stereotypes/Cliches: Old and New

Postby gotegenks » Sun Nov 14, 2010 8:37 pm

lokitocatracho wrote:"WMM sucks"

I thought that until I met some WMM editors. Amvs are all about effects?

have you ever used wmm? it sucks. that goes for raw editing too. not that you can't make anything good out of it, but it's not very fun, imo.
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Re: AMV Taboos/Stereotypes/Cliches: Old and New

Postby TritioAFB » Sun Nov 14, 2010 8:45 pm

Actually I discovered AMVs through wmm but by that time I didn't know that what I was making was an AMV. Obviously you're limited in it cause you cant mask. And camera movements, effects... But even still there are WMM users
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Re: AMV Taboos/Stereotypes/Cliches: Old and New

Postby Knowname » Sun Nov 14, 2010 9:26 pm

And they're gimped, we need not promote such stupidity
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Re: AMV Taboos/Stereotypes/Cliches: Old and New

Postby Ikore » Sun Nov 14, 2010 10:04 pm

lokitocatracho wrote:Actually I discovered AMVs through wmm but by that time I didn't know that what I was making was an AMV. Obviously you're limited in it cause you cant mask. And camera movements, effects... But even still there are WMM users

I really dont consider windows shit maker as a bad editing software because it is maskless, it actually have "effects" even preset zooms :rofl:, you even can add tittles... but it is totally lineal, at least older versions, if you want to go back and change something, it will be hell, an inestable software too, errors/frames, and slow, so no, thank you, it sucks. badly. :evil:
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Re: AMV Taboos/Stereotypes/Cliches: Old and New

Postby MycathatesyouAMV » Sun Nov 14, 2010 10:25 pm

Ileia wrote:No, badly done effects = bad. I have never seen anyone complain about use of effects unless they were badly done. I don't think that belongs in a list of taboos at all.


Not sure what you mean. You mean if the effects are done good then it doesnt matter how they are used ? I think effects should have a good concept no matter how good they look.

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Re: AMV Taboos/Stereotypes/Cliches: Old and New

Postby Sephiroth » Mon Nov 15, 2010 12:00 am

While were on the subject only pros use xyz be it premiere vegas whatever. Does it really make a video any better or worse if it was done in movie maker. sure some jobs are easier with more advanced tools but that's it.
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Re: AMV Taboos/Stereotypes/Cliches: Old and New

Postby Knowname » Mon Nov 15, 2010 1:44 am

MycathatesyouAMV wrote:
Ileia wrote:No, badly done effects = bad. I have never seen anyone complain about use of effects unless they were badly done. I don't think that belongs in a list of taboos at all.


Not sure what you mean. You mean if the effects are done good then it doesnt matter how they are used ? I think effects should have a good concept no matter how good they look.


I think the words 'done' and 'used' ARE interchangeable here :| nobody's talking about custom effects, they're all canned, thus the only question is HOW they are 'done' or 'used'. I doubt if anybody's really 'done' a custom effect here... coded from the ground up (or even implemented into avisynth, doki and pwolf had some 'custom filters' they'd made back in the vdub days) most 'custom effects' are simply multiple canned effects mixed in some way.
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Re: AMV Taboos/Stereotypes/Cliches: Old and New

Postby BasharOfTheAges » Mon Nov 15, 2010 8:35 am

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Re: AMV Taboos/Stereotypes/Cliches: Old and New

Postby ZephyrStar » Mon Nov 15, 2010 9:21 am

(crossfades = overused effect)
(crossfades are NOT an effect...they are a transition, and traditionally they are used to show that time has passed between scenes in a narrative work, or to join two relatively unrelated things, sometimes with black space in between)

Ah, and:
"use of effects for effects sake" - that's fine if you wanna create a demoreel :p
"DON'T USE PRESETS" - considered the default settings in effects plugins and packages that become instantly identifiable.
"I didn't like your video, therefore you shouldn't have made it, and it probably won't be popular" - feck that noise. Make what you want to make.
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Re: AMV Taboos/Stereotypes/Cliches: Old and New

Postby JaddziaDax » Mon Nov 15, 2010 12:52 pm

lokitocatracho wrote:"WMM sucks"
I thought that until I met some WMM editors. Amvs are all about effects?


WMM sucks, people who work with it, get decent quality, and not pull their hair out are miracle workers.
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