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Postby Wykith » Thu Dec 12, 2002 12:39 pm

Gaikotsu wrote::!: That's some pretty amazing stuff. For some reason I feel like I'm going to be assassinated X-Files style just for looking at it. :shock:

Seriously though, if we as a species can think of it, then chances are that we will be able to do it somewhere down the line. Whether it happens 5, 20, or 100+ years down the line, I wouldn't be surprised if there was anything the human race couldn't eventually accomplish if we truly put all our effort into it.


Let's not forget natural human Evolution. The more we learn to use more than 11% of our brains, the more feats we will eventually manage to accomplish.....now......to read the X-file.
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Postby KenShimazu » Thu Dec 12, 2002 12:47 pm

Ever the sci fi junky that i am, i kinda disagree about the Gundam's not being feazable.

granted our bi-pedal technology would need to improve 10 fold for anything of that like to see the field, power source is not really a problem (considering all Gundams are Nuclear powered... just make sure to wear a radiation suit)

actually scratch that, the tech tree humanity would need to follow to create a successful mech that size would be pretty long. Shock absorbers, energy efficient conducters (to counter excess power loss) auto targeting, etc etc etc

my personal view point, we'd probably be able to build a Zaku 1 prototype with the technology we have now, just don't expect it to move faster then 20mph hehe ^^.

overall though, i perosnally think the other Mech people tend to forget would be possible
Votom's whatevertheheckthey'recalled. fast light armored suits more then probably (and it doesn't exactly walk, more like ski's...)

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Postby Gaikotsu » Thu Dec 12, 2002 3:27 pm

I almost forgot, there's work being done on relatively light, and very durable materials. Not all mecha have to be made of steel or titanium. Substitute one of these lightweight materials, and the weight problem becomes much less of an issue.
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Postby RichLather » Thu Dec 12, 2002 4:17 pm

What seems to be in agreement is that small suits (like DARPA's exoskeletons) are the most feasible for a real-life application.

That means more stuff on the level of MADOX-01 and Starship Troopers (the book or anime, not the excreta that masqueraded as a movie), with Votoms, Gasaraki or Blue Gender as an extreme end of it.
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Postby ryu amata » Thu Dec 12, 2002 4:57 pm

I definately don't see it as being an impossibility. I believe it isn't too far off either. As it showed on the exoskeleton its not a technology we don't poses. I think the problem is a lack of funding and a lack of war.
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Postby Wykith » Thu Dec 12, 2002 4:59 pm

ryu amata wrote:I definately don't see it as being an impossibility. I believe it isn't too far off either. As it showed on the exoskeleton its not a technology we don't poses. I think the problem is a lack of funding and a lack of war.


:? Uhh...yeah. The lack of war is a problem alright...........yeah. :?
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Postby Timelessblurr » Thu Dec 12, 2002 5:03 pm

I one day could see mecha like the one in gundams be around and be used in war. but not at our curnt tech leval. come on was have to agree that durning the time of Gundam wing the they had colonis on other planets. but hte mechas would have prouble be better fighting than takes because they are more balacne in tanks in ways they could be used
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Postby RichLather » Thu Dec 12, 2002 6:18 pm

(resists urge to run that through BabelFish)

Tanks are still more mobile and tactically flexible than a Gundam-sized robot. I have no idea to calculate the ratio of tanks to mobile suit in terms of cost and support structure (i.e. how many tanks could you buy and support for the cost of one Zaku?) but I'd be willing to bet those tanks could take out the Zaku easily with minimal loss.

Agree with an earlier point: a small powered armor suit (exoskeleton, frame, what have you) would be great in urban warfare or broken terrain where tracked or wheeled vehicles must be in the open in order to move. If any old-schoolers have seen MADOX-01, there's a very nice scene at the beginning where a MADOX suit takes out three or four tanks in a test run in just such a setting.
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Postby Timelessblurr » Thu Dec 12, 2002 6:26 pm

in case any of you are wondering they are looking for ways to right now to make small exo suits for soilders. One reason is with all the techlogic advance ments for soilder the biggest problem that the maximuin amout of weight they can carries can not increase. (I believe rigth now is somehting like 80 pounds dont hold me to it) and an powered exosuit would allow them to carrily a lot more wait. it would not surpise me to see somehting like the suist from starship troopers. if any of you have read the book the suits would make lifeting a car a piece of cake
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Postby Mroni » Thu Dec 12, 2002 8:42 pm

Lol I think we can all agree on the small exo skeletal suit Idea. Once again a Gi joe toy. I forget what it was called but it was an exoskeletal suit that cobra had.


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Postby kthulhu » Thu Dec 12, 2002 8:50 pm

Why don't you build a mech, Mroni? I'm sure you could get all the parts you need from the garbage. Then wreak havoc while crying "Lum-channnn! Lum-channn!"
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Postby RichLather » Thu Dec 12, 2002 9:06 pm

Mroni wrote:Lol I think we can all agree on the small exo skeletal suit Idea. Once again a Gi joe toy. I forget what it was called but it was an exoskeletal suit that cobra had.


Ah yes, the SNAKE battle armor. Short for "System: Neutralizer - Armed Kloaking Equipment".

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Postby Mroni » Thu Dec 12, 2002 9:29 pm

kthulhu wrote:Why don't you build a mech, Mroni? I'm sure you could get all the parts you need from the garbage. Then wreak havoc while crying "Lum-channnn! Lum-channn!"


Yes but what to call it. Yechiganger? I could make it out a john deere loader and 3 40 yard cans and fill all the electronics in with Commodore 64 and Xt parts.

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Postby Mroni » Thu Dec 12, 2002 9:31 pm

Lol they were desperate trying to make that name work. But that thing sure is cool looking.


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Postby CaTaClYsM » Thu Dec 12, 2002 9:32 pm

and lets not forget the ever important duct tape and popcicle sticks.
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