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Lossless

Postby sportsgirl1391 » Mon Sep 13, 2010 7:55 pm

I need a program to help me work with get Lossless files bc no matter what I do my Shows lag Sony Vegas =/
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Re: Lossless

Postby Mastamind » Mon Sep 13, 2010 8:44 pm

What lossless codec/filetype are you using? Either way, as long as it's avi, it should work fine in Vegas..
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Re: Lossless

Postby sportsgirl1391 » Mon Sep 13, 2010 10:21 pm

For some reason avi dont show up in Vegas. =/ Here I shall show you. ok wait the weirdest thing When I convert I set it to this right?

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Now all of the sudden it slipt into 6 files that are 3.99 gb.

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Re: Lossless

Postby Athena » Tue Sep 14, 2010 12:41 am

Avidemux is set to split files, but you can tell it not to. HUFFYUV is lossless. As in no quality loss. As in HUEG LIEK XBAWKS. A standard three minute AMV will be a few gigs. An episode will be quite a bit more...

And if Vegas isn't taking AVI, you have issues I am not qualified to address, as I do not use windows.
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Re: Lossless

Postby sportsgirl1391 » Tue Sep 14, 2010 1:09 am

in the type of settings for format there is AVI, Pack VOP and then there unpacked VOP im confused on what that is?
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Re: Lossless

Postby Mister Hatt » Tue Sep 14, 2010 2:03 am

The bigger question is if you're using 720p, you obviously want quality, so why are you using video ripped from CrunchyRoll?
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Re: Lossless

Postby sportsgirl1391 » Tue Sep 14, 2010 5:47 pm

ok here step by step on what I do.

Here is the me opening the file into the program.
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This window pops up I click "NO"
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The next one pops up and I click "Yes"
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Then I click the Huffy one in the video drop down menu.
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Then I save it like this and its comes out with different files.
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Re: Lossless

Postby Mister Hatt » Wed Sep 15, 2010 12:08 am

What's that? Almost EXACTLY 4GB OR VERY SLIGHTLY LESS? Can you say "FAT32 LOL"? Your filesystem doesn't allow for larger files is why.

Also, using Huffyuv sounds dumb to me but it might be that Vegas just doesn't like other VFW lossless formats. However, using AviDemux IS dumb, for anyone. It is unable to parse AVC or MKV properly and should not be used. Rather you should be using avisynth+virtualdub or avs2avi to render a nice smaller correct lossless encode. What REALLY astounds me though is why you think you need lossless when your source is so poor quality? Just go high bitrate XviD or something, you won't notice the difference at all.

Also buy sources, IIRC using downloaded rips is "against the rules", or at least sharing that you're pirating hurr hurr
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Re: Lossless

Postby sportsgirl1391 » Wed Sep 15, 2010 1:53 pm

Mister Hatt wrote:Rather you should be using avisynth+virtualdub or avs2avi to render a nice smaller correct lossless encode. What REALLY astounds me though is why you think you need lossless when your source is so poor quality? Just go high bitrate XviD or something, you won't notice the difference at all.


avisynth wont install onto my computer and I did use virutal dub. the files are huge.
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Re: Lossless

Postby AimoAio » Wed Sep 15, 2010 2:38 pm

When you save and it asks you for a video name, you need to add .avi to the file name at the end. Otherwise it will just come up as a file rather than a video file. ;)
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Re: Lossless

Postby AimoAio » Wed Sep 15, 2010 2:40 pm

Although I should mention that using VirtualDub & Avisynth is a better method for lossless...what exactly is the problem you get when installing Avisynth? If you could post that here, maybe someone can help you.
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Re: Lossless

Postby Kariudo » Wed Sep 15, 2010 4:15 pm

sportsgirl1391 wrote:avisynth wont install onto my computer

What error are you getting when you try to install avisynth?
sportsgirl1391 wrote:and I did use virutal dub.

looks like you used avidemux
sportsgirl1391 wrote:the files are huge.

As Kionon mentioned, this is just the nature of lossless compression
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Re: Lossless

Postby Mister Hatt » Thu Sep 16, 2010 1:06 am

Actually I think it's huge because he left it on the default uncompressed AVI, where every frame is a fucking intracoded bitmap. There is a fancy little item in the video menu for compression: use it.

You also still haven't said why you need lossless. What part of "upscaled horribly coded broken framerate and motion" don't you get?
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Re: Lossless

Postby sportsgirl1391 » Thu Sep 16, 2010 1:25 pm

Mister Hatt wrote:Actually I think it's huge because he left it on the default uncompressed AVI, where every frame is a fucking intracoded bitmap. There is a fancy little item in the video menu for compression: use it.

You also still haven't said why you need lossless. What part of "upscaled horribly coded broken framerate and motion" don't you get?


bc i didn't know what else to do with these clips without losing quality. Im testing it with these because my cousin burned my Claymore Bluray for me so I could watch it on the plane and they were mkv dual audio. So I am trying different things out before I start messing with my Claymore.
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Re: Lossless

Postby Mister Hatt » Thu Sep 16, 2010 9:35 pm

Ok two things: firstly, the ORIGINAL RAW you have is so bad that NOTHING YOU DO can make it better. You need to get a better raw; if you live in Japan or know someone who does and has an ISDB-T and B-CAS recording system, they can generate some high-ish quality MPEG2-TS files for you (I have every episode so far but I can't share lol). Alternatively get the DVD, or at least a well made rip of either source.

Secondly, the Claymore bluray is THE worst progressive bluray I have ever seen as far as quality goes. It is a pointresized upscale with horrible deen-like smoothing and some bumpmap distortion. Not exactly something you'd want to watch.
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