AWA Pro video discussion

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Re: AWA Pro video discussion

Postby ngsilver » Mon Aug 16, 2010 11:16 am

Considering the comments from others I think it'd be interesting to read the 'flames' myself. This is the first time I remember this much participation on video impressions across the board. I like it. Lets keep it up :D
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Re: AWA Pro video discussion

Postby BurningLeaves » Mon Aug 16, 2010 11:41 am

Kitsuner wrote:What's the point of mentioning which editor you think did a video if you censor out the name? Why not just cut the sentence altogether?

Because the contest is supposed to be blind and I think that's the most fun part of it, seeing a video and not knowing who made it but trying to use your knowledge of peoples editing styles to guess who made which video. Yes Ileia's correct anything I put in brackets were things that were in my notes but I removed before posting. When the contest is over I plan on looking through the list and seeing how many I got right, but I don't think I should post who I think did which video, even if I'm wrong it would still go against the whole blindness thing. As for not taking out the whole sentence I just went through my notes quickly and tried to get rid of names, categories, and any instance I noticed myself going off on a non-vid centric rant or bashing the video without saying anything constructive. I didn't bother to rewatch anything to give people feedback or rewording my sentences, just remove what I thought shouldn't be posted. Maybe if I enter next year I'll keep in mind when making the notes that I might end up posting them publicly.
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Re: AWA Pro video discussion

Postby Cenit » Mon Aug 16, 2010 12:01 pm

Kristyrat wrote:Really appreciate everyone doing reviews, I hope to get mine out soon, although I did have a chuckle at Cenit's:

Cenit wrote:20 - finally some upbeat ... worked for most of the time but a big lack of creativity and ideas ... everything about this has been done before and better - 2,5/5


There have been other dance AMVs about STDs? :O

There have been other random dance amvs ... better edited as well. Thats all. It was ok but there is really nothing about it ... just another dance amv showing nothing more than the other 999.999
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Re: AWA Pro video discussion

Postby Ileia » Mon Aug 16, 2010 12:10 pm

Like I said in my comments, that video is all lyrically driven. If the song wasn't about gonorrhea, then the video would indeed just be another random dance scene video.
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Re: AWA Pro video discussion

Postby CodeZTM » Mon Aug 16, 2010 12:21 pm

Well, I took a lot of notes on paper, but I really don't feel like typing 3/5 50+ times, so I'll just highlight the ones that I thought did an above average job and a below average job.

Everything else literally got a 3/5, with the comments "needs more work/focus".

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02: 1.5/5 - I can already tell I'm going to hate this trend. Lip sync for the sake of lip sync is always bad concept choice, unless it's just really damn well done. Plus, the joke was funny for the first few seconds, but after that, it went downhill quickly. There's just ZERO variety in the footage and nothing to make it compelling.

04: 4/5 - Did a pretty good job here. It's just long enough that we can get into it without having to go "DAAAAMN. WHO CARES ITS JUST TUBES ". It also had a pretty nice amount of depth to it as well.

10: 4/5 - I really dug it. I usually hate black fades with a PASSION, but I really dug them in this video for some reason. The concept behind it weren't anything conceptually outside of the movie's plot, but the execution behind it was pretty nice. I wish there was a tad more depth to it, but on the whole, it was a really great and enjoyable experience.

11: 1.5/5 - I literally don't know if this was supposed to be a comedic or serious piece. As a comedy piece, it was too serious. As a dramatic piece, it lacked scene variety and flow.

14: 4/5 - That was a really well conceived/executed piece. I wish that the lip sync was a tad tighter and the scene selection just a little differentiated in a few key places, but on the overall it was quite enjoyable.

15: 2/5 - As much of a Yugioh fanboy as I am, I gotta admit it was painful to see just one episode used to that long of a song, without much concept/impact behind it. There was a few good spots that made it savable, but it still needed some work.

17: 2/5 - The grain effect was just painful to see and it lacked key movement to make it flow well.

19: 1/5 - Again, lip sync for the sake of lip sync [especially bad lip sync] is never a good thing. The concept you were going for wasn't executed very well either, and it lacked key lyric sync or beat sync to save it.

20: 3.75/5 - Ha! Cute. Pretty good editing, but the scene selection needed some work, and a little more focus on beat sync might had made one of the better upbeat videos here just a little bit better. ;)

21: 3.5/5 - A tad too literal at times, but on the overall had a good feel/flow to it that just needed a little work on execution.

22: 4.25/5.0 - Some scenes were a tad long, the speed/slow scenes were a tad too noticable, but on the overall, it was dramatically powerful and has a deep and powerful message. Unless it was meant to be funny, but I totally missed that entire vibe.

23: 4.25/5 - Shit. They have live action of this? Now I can cry in two different genres of film. XD Editing was pretty good, didn't care for the black fades. some transitions between segements were a little fast as well.

24: 1.5/5 - Lacks humor to be funny or the dramatic power to be dramatic. Scenes had little to nothing to do with the concept either, at least to me anyway.

27: 4/5 - Pretty good, that's pretty much what I thought.

29: 4/5 - HA. Ha. ha.... Got a good laugh and the editing was pretty good/interesting.

31: 4.5/5 - Kind of WTF'ed at the sex part in the middle, but on the overall, it was probably my favorite video in the entire Pro contest. Had good sync, good feel and flowed incredibly well. A few hairline fractures here and there though.

33: 4.25/5 - Wish they'red been more beat sync, but still a great Ippo video with some great flow and some great power behind it. Probably my second favorite video in the contest.

34: 2.75/5.0 - Probably the only one that did this source justice in AWA Pro, but still was about 2/3 minutes far too long.

36: 3.5/5 - I still don't get it, but still well done editing wise, I just didn't care for the overdone concept or that the editing was a tad random.

40: 2/5 - See above comments for all the other 20 kertrillion sleeping videos.

46: 5/5 - Captured the concept/power behind Valkirya Chronicles perfectly, editing was consistantly great, but I do admit that the ending was somewhat anticlimatic.

47: 4.5/5 - STill love it. XD Cute video, just needs minor touching up.

49: 2/5 - Effects/shaking overkill and obvious watermarks were obvious.

53: 4/5 - Still conceptually strong and unique, just a few hairline issues with the editing and execution.

54: 4/5 - LULZ LULZ LULZ. I can appreciate a great concept and even moreso a unique one. Good execution of it, I just kind of think there was a few issues with the editing.

57: 4/5 - As with all AMV Hells, there were some good ones, some ok ones and some bad ones. But there were also some frightenly disgusting ones as well. But still, it had some good editing/exeuction/humor in some of them. :D

59: 2/5 - Just.. Bad.. Even though fun/dance videos don't need concepts, this one just took any type of theme and threw it out a window. Many too scenes were far too long and poorly transitioned to, and the inclusion of the original animated caramelldansen was kind of pointless.

60: 0/5 JACKASS. DO NOT WANT TO SEE OR HEAR. :P
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Re: AWA Pro video discussion

Postby zeiram_00 » Mon Aug 16, 2010 2:23 pm

Because the contest is supposed to be blind and I think that's the most fun part of it, seeing a video and not knowing who made it but trying to use your knowledge of peoples editing styles to guess who made which video.


Doesn't guessing who made the video kill the whole blind judging part of the process???

Anyway, i'm done with nominations and am eagerly awaiting to see which vids are finalists in which category.
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Re: AWA Pro video discussion

Postby Cenit » Mon Aug 16, 2010 3:23 pm

godix could you edit the first post to include the link to the reviews of burningleaves and code and probably all other that might code?
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Re: AWA Pro video discussion

Postby Scintilla » Mon Aug 16, 2010 4:49 pm

zeiram_00 wrote:
Because the contest is supposed to be blind and I think that's the most fun part of it, seeing a video and not knowing who made it but trying to use your knowledge of peoples editing styles to guess who made which video.

Doesn't guessing who made the video kill the whole blind judging part of the process???

What is everyone's sudden problem on this thread with guessing who made what? It's not like we actually find out until the voting's done anyway.
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Re: AWA Pro video discussion

Postby Ileia » Mon Aug 16, 2010 4:50 pm

And by everyone, you mean one person.
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Re: AWA Pro video discussion

Postby Nya-chan Production » Mon Aug 16, 2010 5:05 pm

My guess is Ileia did #60

Makes perfect sense!
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Re: AWA Pro video discussion

Postby Scintilla » Mon Aug 16, 2010 5:55 pm

Ileia wrote:And by everyone, you mean one person.

I thought I counted at least two (BurningLeaves and zeiram00).
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Re: AWA Pro video discussion

Postby Ileia » Mon Aug 16, 2010 6:02 pm

Burning Leaves is the one who had guesses, so clearly she didn't have a problem with it. :P
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Re: AWA Pro video discussion

Postby kholaras » Mon Aug 16, 2010 6:12 pm

In the past the editor guessing game has been held (at least publicly) after the voting closes (or after nominations closes if the video in question didn't make it to the finals). I've even held off the public reveal a few days to allow the festivities to play out. I'm fine with whatever.
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Re: AWA Pro video discussion

Postby JudgeHolden » Mon Aug 16, 2010 8:57 pm

Thanks be to heaven I didn't finish a Pro video ... way to many to watch. :ying:
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Re: AWA Pro video discussion

Postby gotenks794 » Mon Aug 16, 2010 10:30 pm

I'd really love to know what this controversial #60 was...
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