
outlawed wrote:It looks like some people do not understand the spirit of AWA Pro and frankly that's just sad. It's sad that generally the worst culprits as far as setting the AMV community backwards has often been some of its own members' prejudices. Do you not realize the people who sent these H videos (and whatever else has content someone may not want to watch) to AWA because they want to know honestly what their peers think? And to prove that AMV creators judge them worthy of winning an award. This is historically significant because there was a time when contests with respected judging panels and processes didn't exist and audience voting was king. Hell people complained about AX this year and judging. That alone proves the concept of AWA Pro is still very important.
Pwolf wrote:If that's how people really feel it should be then I'll probably decline from entering Pro in the future. If not being able to watch every video is degrading the contest then I shouldn't enter. Mind as well remove my video from this years contest cause I can't honestly say I'll watch them all.
Pwolf wrote:On a side note, the very act of someone NOT watching an H amv tells the editor what their opinion is.
outlawed wrote:It looks like some people do not understand the spirit of AWA Pro and frankly that's just sad. It's sad that generally the worst culprits as far as setting the AMV community backwards has often been some of its own members' prejudices. Do you not realize the people who sent these H videos (and whatever else has content someone may not want to watch) to AWA because they want to know honestly what their peers think? And to prove that AMV creators judge them worthy of winning an award. This is historically significant because there was a time when contests with respected judging panels and processes didn't exist and audience voting was king. Hell people complained about AX this year and judging. That alone proves the concept of AWA Pro is still very important.
Nya-chan Production wrote:in fact about 1/4th of those vids can be deemed "Pro". Others are Live Action, trolls and just average videos (sorry to their authors, but it is so)
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Nya-chan Production wrote:outlawed wrote:It looks like some people do not understand the spirit of AWA Pro and frankly that's just sad. It's sad that generally the worst culprits as far as setting the AMV community backwards has often been some of its own members' prejudices. Do you not realize the people who sent these H videos (and whatever else has content someone may not want to watch) to AWA because they want to know honestly what their peers think? And to prove that AMV creators judge them worthy of winning an award. This is historically significant because there was a time when contests with respected judging panels and processes didn't exist and audience voting was king. Hell people complained about AX this year and judging. That alone proves the concept of AWA Pro is still very important.
I dare to disagree with this and I think some will agree with me. Even though I haven't seen Pro contests before 2009, to me AWA Pro currently looks like a contest about who can troll the others the best, which is quite sad. It's supposed to be a quality contest, but in fact about 1/4th of those vids can be deemed "Pro". Others are Live Action, trolls and just average videos (sorry to their authors, but it is so) - honestly, most of the AMVNews.ru competitions (however much I don't want to admit it) spark better and more original videos these days. I wonder why this contest has degraded that much and I would maybe like to ask the coordinators - have you noticed this and are you just hoping it will go away by itself or haven't you noticed at all?
Pwolf wrote:On a side note, the very act of someone NOT watching an H amv tells the editor what their opinion is.

Nya-chan Production wrote:It's supposed to be a quality contest, but in fact about 1/4th of those vids can be deemed "Pro". Others are Live Action, trolls and just average videos (sorry to their authors, but it is so) - honestly, most of the AMVNews.ru competitions (however much I don't want to admit it) spark better and more original videos these days. I wonder why this contest has degraded that much and I would maybe like to ask the coordinators - have you noticed this and are you just hoping it will go away by itself or haven't you noticed at all?
Kitsuner wrote:Nya-chan Production wrote:in fact about 1/4th of those vids can be deemed "Pro". Others are Live Action, trolls and just average videos (sorry to their authors, but it is so)
Yeah, Live Action videos are never pro.
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outlawed wrote:Pwolf wrote:If that's how people really feel it should be then I'll probably decline from entering Pro in the future. If not being able to watch every video is degrading the contest then I shouldn't enter. Mind as well remove my video from this years contest cause I can't honestly say I'll watch them all.
My point about Pro is that it's supposed to be a give and take experience. The submission is the give. The judging process is what people take out. It's not supposed to be just another dumping grounds contest. That's why I argue this point.
SailorDeath wrote:Pwolf wrote:On a side note, the very act of someone NOT watching an H amv tells the editor what their opinion is.
Not to be mean or rude, (as that's not my intention for replying to this, plus I consider you a good friend) the message it sends to me is:
"I won't even give this a chance."
It also makes me feel like I wasted my time working on something I had fun making if nobody's even going to consider it. I don't care if my videos win or lose, but I do like to think that it had an honest shot at competing.
Pwolf wrote:Maybe I missed something, but every year I submitted, I've never received any feedback from anyone other then an award. I usually don't read the forum posts where people review each video. The only time anyone gives me any feedback on the video I submitted is when I release it on the org. So there really isn't any give or take experience, from my point of view.
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