[WIP] Angel Beats! AMV

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[WIP] Angel Beats! AMV

Postby Gameurs » Tue Jul 13, 2010 3:57 am

Hiho guys Image

Let me introduce my new AMV, actually i just do only 30sec of the entire vid, but i want some feedback before i go on this way Image

Anime used : Angel Beats!
Software : Sony Vegas/AfterEffect/Photoshop
Music : Angel beats! BGM pv6
About the video : HD 720p, 29,7 fps
The link : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nBs_AS1yksM&hd=1

Plz watch it in HD 720p, and give me your feedback =)
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Re: [WIP] Angel Beats! AMV

Postby Moonlessnight » Tue Jul 13, 2010 5:15 pm

Nice start. Avoid lip-flap (having people talk in the amv when it isn't to the music) and you should do very well. The encode is gorgeous! :D
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Re: [WIP] Angel Beats! AMV

Postby Gameurs » Wed Jul 14, 2010 5:20 am

A finally a feedback =p
Yep, right for the lip-flap, will take care of it
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Re: [WIP] Angel Beats! AMV

Postby AimoAio » Thu Jul 15, 2010 2:25 pm

The beginning seems awfully slow to me, I mean 20 seconds for "Angel Beats" to come up? :? Maybe you could make that faster and add other text to it? Like amv name, song title, artist..etc etc.

Lip flap. Something you can fix easy :)

Hmm and I dunno if it's just me but it feels kinda static to me. The scenes don't have much movement when the song begins to pick up a bit, perhaps a faster pacing? Or more scenes? Some panning won't hurt either :) Something like that.

That being said, I'm looking forward to seeing it finished :)
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Re: [WIP] Angel Beats! AMV

Postby Gameurs » Thu Jul 15, 2010 4:03 pm

Actually i upload another teaser on youtube, but i make private just for a mate, if you want i can allow you to watch it, i've add a lots of thing, some flourish, some stuff like that =)
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Re: [WIP] Angel Beats! AMV

Postby AimoAio » Thu Jul 15, 2010 8:00 pm

Sure, go ahead ^^ sounds good to me :)
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Re: [WIP] Angel Beats! AMV

Postby Gameurs » Fri Jul 16, 2010 7:51 am

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Re: [WIP] Angel Beats! AMV

Postby Magnus » Fri Jul 16, 2010 10:09 am

Personally I think your pacing is way off. like really, first the introduction "Angels Beat!"-text. Then the still of the girl just standing there.
I'd advice you to try to pay more attention to the way the song progresses and try to make the video progress along with it.

This is not meant in a bad way at all, even though it might have sounded a little harsh.
These are my personal opinions and thoughts, if you'd agree take it to heart, if you don't - well, just leave it be.

Good luck!
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Re: [WIP] Angel Beats! AMV

Postby Gameurs » Fri Jul 16, 2010 10:37 am

Yup i agree with you for the first girl, for the text Angel Beats actually it's changed, you will see.
But for the first girl, i don't know to do to add some action to this scene really :/
If someone have an idea, plz go! :nose:
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Re: [WIP] Angel Beats! AMV

Postby AimoAio » Fri Jul 16, 2010 7:31 pm

Sorry for the late reply, had work today x__x

Gameurs wrote:Yup i agree with you for the first girl, for the text Angel Beats actually it's changed, you will see.

looking forward to seeing some changes to that.

And nice you got rid of the lip flap :up: but the girl is waaay too static, it's like you only want the viewers to focus on the background where the bubble things are moving instead of on her but it doesn't quite work. My suggestion is to either: add camera movement - shaking? some panning? anything that makes it move, even slightly OR cut out the mask and add scene overlays underneath it(like sync scenes of the girl to the music there)

In fact you could even try both :D

Actually I'd say that for the next 2 characters too. They're not as still as the girl because they have shorter screentime but it still feels kinda slow to me in comparison with the music cause the music is kinda fast.

The bit after where the other characters come up...hmmm.....the effect is nice but I don't like how you feathered the masks - too much imo. And for some of the characters it looked like you used the cookie cutter instead of a mask which makes it look kinda....strange. Either keep it all masks or all cutters, and less feathering please. Also that area still feels kinda bland. Perhaps you could use the full scene of the mask in the background and just lower the opacity? Anything to lessen the white background would suffice.

I think your main problem is you're too focused on pretty effects(not that I don't like them :P) and less on the pacing so it LOOKS nice but FEELS slow.

But otherwise the tune is kinda growing on me and I'm really looking forward to seeing more! :D

That also reminds me I gotta go watch Angel beats first :uhoh:
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Re: [WIP] Angel Beats! AMV

Postby Gameurs » Sat Jul 17, 2010 5:42 am

Thx again to spend your time for me =p
I have an idea for the first characters and the others, and i will try to find something for the empty background =)
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Re: [WIP] Angel Beats! AMV

Postby Gameurs » Sun Jul 18, 2010 11:19 am

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4KIr75-OqyQ

Plz give me some feedback =p
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Re: [WIP] Angel Beats! AMV

Postby AimoAio » Sun Jul 18, 2010 4:42 pm

Now that was so much better! :up:

Anyway nice to know you added some credits to the beginning, but now that you did, I can't help but feel like the Angel Beats! that's slowly being written feels outta place. In fact it keeps distracting me from reading the credits properly since it's being animated slowly I can't help my eyes from looking up at it every so often D: Maybe you should remove it and make the font size for the credits a little bigger?

The cutters next are a nice addition, doesn't make that part so static anymore, the black border cutter seems to be expanding slightly faster in some parts, not sure if that was deliberate or accidental - check your keyframes. Also some lip flapping here, might wanna fix that.

Also is it just me or is the transition at 0:39-0:40 a little...glitchy? It's like the guy isn't being drawn on the screen anymore like it did before...

Masks look so much nicer than the feathery cutters from before :D but the mask selection....some of the characters seem to have part of their head cut off :? It's not bad or anything, I just wasn't sure if it was intentional or not for the borders around them(you know like the edge of the screen). Sorry for my crappy explanation, if you have no idea what I'm banging on about then just leave it since it's not really a big issue anyway.

1:06-1:16 could do with a little background, maybe same scene lower opacity? I dunno why but I don't really like still backgrounds, especially not when the song is so upbeat.

Anyway this beta was a drastic improvement from the first one I saw, gudjob and I'm hoping to see more! :up:
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Re: [WIP] Angel Beats! AMV

Postby Gameurs » Sun Jul 18, 2010 5:14 pm

Ty for reply =)

For the transition at 0:39-0:40, i don't know why, maybe the encode as some bug...
I'll see for the rest, ty again!
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