Anime Expo 2010 Anime Music Video Contest Rules Up

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Re: Anime Expo 2010 Anime Music Video Contest Rules Up

Postby Vlad G Pohnert » Sun Jun 20, 2010 9:58 pm

xstylus wrote:Michael has a very inclusive mindset when he weighs whether a vid of a particular "quality" is allowable. The man has a heart of gold and wants new, inexperienced creators to have their fair chance. That's very admirable. Unfortunately that means 30hr judging sessions and the need to have a cheese grater nearby for my eyes. 8-)


Well, I suggest cuitting down the amount of entires to say 2 or 3 per person would help resolve that. I don't see the point of having up to 8 accpeted entires... As for the quality, I think there needs to be minimum rules on that or else everyone will think it's just fine to include Dvix logos, crappy encodes, etc.. Actually having the rules there gerts the creator who does that to LEARN and IMPROVE so your actually helpign them in some ways.

I try to help out, fix aspect rations, encodes, etc as much as I can for my contests, but I think if your going to edit, you need to learm the basics including basic quality.

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Re: Anime Expo 2010 Anime Music Video Contest Rules Up

Postby Tearx » Sun Jun 20, 2010 10:02 pm

Rider4Z wrote: i've always felt that way tho, some people just don't have the ability (or access) to produce HQ videos,

I agree that some videos are great, but quality wise are not. However, I don't really think there is a lack of ability to produce a HQ video...wouldn't that just be called lazy? It's just a really lame excuse that I've heard oh so many times now. =\
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Re: Anime Expo 2010 Anime Music Video Contest Rules Up

Postby Ileia » Mon Jun 21, 2010 1:43 am

Lack of knowledge of technical aspects does not immediately mean someone is lazy. If it's someone who has been around and should know better, then yes, they are being lazy, but we can't even pretend to know how much another person understands about the process. To us, it seems simple, to someone who doesn't know, it can be completely confusing. I, for one, remember being overwhelmed by all of what I considered technical mumbojumbo ("Interlacing? Aspect ratio? the hell is that?!"), but I only even knew I was doing something wrong after it was pointed out to me. I just simply didn't know any better, I didn't have an eye for picking out things like that. If you did when you were starting out, good for you! You had a better start than a lot of us.

That being said, I do agree with cutting videos that don't stand up to the quality standards. If you did something wrong, learn how to fix it. I see a lot of people posting in contest threads when they have videos disqualified for the technical aspect of it, so there is an obvious willingness to learn how to correct it. I have seen a few contest rules that link to the guides here and I think that is an awesome idea that I'd like to see more often. Just add a little link to the DQ e-mail. "Your video was disqualified due to _____. Here is a guide that can help you fix the problem so that you can resubmit."* It'll help them help themselves and keep the quality of the contest higher.



*I'm actually not sure if some coordinators already do this. I've never had a video DQ'd because of a technical aspect...>_>
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Re: Anime Expo 2010 Anime Music Video Contest Rules Up

Postby Vlad G Pohnert » Mon Jun 21, 2010 1:48 am

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Re: Anime Expo 2010 Anime Music Video Contest Rules Up

Postby Ileia » Mon Jun 21, 2010 2:14 am

Yes, Vlad, I think you do an admirable job of helping out your entrants, and well, running your contests in general. We should clone you and put the clones to work coordinating AMV contests across the globe. Mwahahaha!
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Re: Anime Expo 2010 Anime Music Video Contest Rules Up

Postby XStylus » Mon Jun 21, 2010 3:24 am

To be fair though, this year didn't seem bad. There were still some unforgivables, but I was greatly encouraged that there was improvement overall. Last year... ...we shall not discuss. ("SQUENIIIIXXXXXXXX!!!!!!!" [snarl])
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Re: Anime Expo 2010 Anime Music Video Contest Rules Up

Postby Rider4Z » Mon Jun 21, 2010 9:58 am

Ileia wrote:Lack of knowledge of technical aspects does not immediately mean someone is lazy. If it's someone who has been around and should know better, then yes, they are being lazy, but we can't even pretend to know how much another person understands about the process. To us, it seems simple, to someone who doesn't know, it can be completely confusing. I, for one, remember being overwhelmed by all of what I considered technical mumbojumbo ("Interlacing? Aspect ratio? the hell is that?!"), but I only even knew I was doing something wrong after it was pointed out to me. I just simply didn't know any better, I didn't have an eye for picking out things like that. If you did when you were starting out, good for you! You had a better start than a lot of us.

That being said, I do agree with cutting videos that don't stand up to the quality standards. If you did something wrong, learn how to fix it. I see a lot of people posting in contest threads when they have videos disqualified for the technical aspect of it, so there is an obvious willingness to learn how to correct it. I have seen a few contest rules that link to the guides here and I think that is an awesome idea that I'd like to see more often. Just add a little link to the DQ e-mail. "Your video was disqualified due to _____. Here is a guide that can help you fix the problem so that you can resubmit."* It'll help them help themselves and keep the quality of the contest higher.



*I'm actually not sure if some coordinators already do this. I've never had a video DQ'd because of a technical aspect...>_>

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Re: Anime Expo 2010 Anime Music Video Contest Rules Up

Postby outlawed » Mon Jun 21, 2010 12:53 pm

There are pros and cons to almost any facet of how contests or amv programming are run but there is one thing we can all agree on at least.

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Re: Anime Expo 2010 Anime Music Video Contest Rules Up

Postby XStylus » Mon Jun 21, 2010 1:31 pm

outlawed wrote:AMVs: Serious Business
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Ya'll still ain't got nothin' on cosplayers though. :P
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Re: Anime Expo 2010 Anime Music Video Contest Rules Up

Postby Castor Troy » Mon Jun 21, 2010 1:37 pm

xstylus wrote:
outlawed wrote:AMVs: Serious Business
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Ya'll still ain't got nothin' on cosplayers though. :P


AMV > Cosplay 8-)
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Re: Anime Expo 2010 Anime Music Video Contest Rules Up

Postby Vlad G Pohnert » Mon Jun 21, 2010 2:04 pm

I think we should create a secret society that meets deep in the bowels of the Earth whose members do nothing but judge AMVs for contests... In between they can put their minds together and work on world domination or else eliminate all those that argue the judges results.... and if you want, Xstylus, you can be the societies minister of quality control as you'll get to torture those that get out of line... Oh, and all members can also wear those cool anime hats too and Rider4Z can be the appointed social coordinator… so there |:>

..note to self ...don't deviate off topic or else... :uhoh:

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Re: Anime Expo 2010 Anime Music Video Contest Rules Up

Postby XStylus » Mon Jun 21, 2010 2:10 pm

Vlad G Pohnert wrote:I think we should create a secret society that meets deep in the bowels of the Earth whose members do nothing but judge AMVs for contests... In between they can put their minds together and work on world domination or else eliminate all those that argue the judges results.... Oh, and they can also wear those cool anime hats too and Rider4Z can be the appointed social coordinator… so there |:>

I'm sure the indoctrination will involve yaoi paddles and a marathon session of LinkinBallz vid watching.
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Re: Anime Expo 2010 Anime Music Video Contest Rules Up

Postby Minimoto » Mon Jun 21, 2010 3:14 pm

But damn, AX is just around the corner. Can't wait...!
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Re: Anime Expo 2010 Anime Music Video Contest Rules Up

Postby Niotex » Mon Jun 21, 2010 3:18 pm

Vlad G Pohnert wrote:I think we should create a secret society that meets deep in the bowels of the Earth whose members do nothing but judge AMVs for contests... In between they can put their minds together and work on world domination or else eliminate all those that argue the judges results.... and if you want, Xstylus, you can be the societies minister of quality control as you'll get to torture those that get out of line... Oh, and all members can also wear those cool anime hats too and Rider4Z can be the appointed social coordinator… so there |:>

..note to self ...don't deviate off topic or else... :uhoh:

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Re: Anime Expo 2010 Anime Music Video Contest Rules Up

Postby Rider4Z » Mon Jun 21, 2010 4:15 pm

Vlad G Pohnert wrote:Oh, and all members can also wear those cool anime hats too and Rider4Z can be the appointed social coordinator… so there |:>

my first act as social coordinator would be to provide t-shirts to match the hats :awesome:
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