The Otakon 2010 Thread (OK now panic)

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Re: The Otakon 2010 Thread (2 week warning)

Postby XStylus » Wed Jun 16, 2010 2:42 pm

chui101 wrote:@Xstylus: You sir, are a brave person.

The way I see it, the pressure's all on him. The worst that could happen for me is I'd lose to a worthy opponent. No shame in that. As for him, he'd lose to someone who'd been retired since 2002. :P

You have your choice of weapons as long as it's Premiere CS3 or 6.5.

Heh. I remember the bad ol' days of Premiere 6.5. Haven't used it in a loooooong time (the professional world uses Avid or Final Cut), but I know it better than CS3. If I'm confirmed as the challenger I'll have to go hunt for my copy and get reacquainted... ^^;;;
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Re: The Otakon 2010 Thread (2 week warning)

Postby Castor Troy » Wed Jun 16, 2010 3:11 pm

xstylus wrote:
chui101 wrote:@Xstylus: You sir, are a brave person.

The way I see it, the pressure's all on him. The worst that could happen for me is I'd lose to a worthy opponent. No shame in that. As for him, he'd lose to someone who'd been retired since 2002. :P

You have your choice of weapons as long as it's Premiere CS3 or 6.5.

Heh. I remember the bad ol' days of Premiere 6.5. Haven't used it in a loooooong time (the professional world uses Avid or Final Cut), but I know it better than CS3. If I'm confirmed as the challenger I'll have to go hunt for my copy and get reacquainted... ^^;;;


Go for CS3. After all the work I've done in Final Cut and Avid, I almost can't go back to 6.5.
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Re: The Otakon 2010 Thread (problematic entries inside!)

Postby chui101 » Wed Jun 16, 2010 4:03 pm

My entry is complete! Finally got all my frame inaccuracies fixed. I wish h.264 was frame-accurate :lol:

I am LOVING CS5, too bad it's not an option in the contest. The Mercury Playback Engine is so stable and buttery smooth on an nVidia card with CUDA, and it's so freaking fast too. I don't care what you Apple junkies have to say about your Avid and FCP :p


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P.S. Are submitters still getting preferred seating and badges this year? That was totally awesome last year, thanks again for doing it :D
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Re: The Otakon 2010 Thread (problematic entries inside!)

Postby VicBond007 » Thu Jun 17, 2010 2:50 pm

Hey kids,

Scintilla also expressed interest in doing IE. I'm going to see him at pre-screenings and make sure. If he chickens out, Stylus, you're on.

Everyone who submits and is not disqualified will get 3 seating badges. These are JUST for skipping the line and getting the good seats. These are NOT replacements for Otakon admission badges! They will work for the two big contest screenings, and for Iron Editor.

The hardware acceleration in CS5 is not tested for cloned display viewing yet. If it acts as an overlay surface, it may not display on both the screen and the projector at the same time. This is why we can't use DV now. Premiere renders DV footage on a separate overlay surface and shows up as black video on the projector. Makes watching the process even more boring. Also new software costs money, and most of the "pros" doing AMVs still use 6.5. I think maybe 3 people in the last 25 Iron Editor events used CS3. We've used FCP before, but standardizing footage for use between Mac and PC without giving one or the other an "edge" was a giant pain in the ass. Fortunately Nate quit before things got out of hand ;)
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Re: The Otakon 2010 Thread (problematic entries inside!)

Postby XStylus » Thu Jun 17, 2010 3:28 pm

VicBond007 wrote:Hey kids,

Scintilla also expressed interest in doing IE. I'm going to see him at pre-screenings and make sure. If he chickens out, Stylus, you're on.

Awwwww...

What's this year's theme, by the way? And just out of curiosity, what's the specs of the equipment?
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Re: The Otakon 2010 Thread (2 week warning)

Postby dragontamer5788 » Thu Jun 17, 2010 11:27 pm

VicBond007 wrote:dragontamer: Just send us your .avi or quicktime if you have the bandwidth. It's 100x easier to fix the original, than to fix a bad re-encode. We output everything using a true, broadcast NTSC signal, no software players. If I can see the original, then I will know how to make the mpeg to conform to that standard :)


Hmm... well... Cinelerra is kind of a crappy program >_< The originals aren't in the correct aspect ratio, so I'm re-encoding anyway. (DVD Raws at 16:9, but Cinelerra wants to output 4:3, so I screw with the flags while letterboxing and so forth with mencoder). I'm worried about now is the PC color-coding vs MPEG color-coding. (something about 16 being black in NTSC but 0 is black for PCs?)... and whether or not some things are too dark in the AMV.

But I turned in what I got... now that the deadline is looming. So here is to a good competition this year! Also, a friend of mine wanted to know... Is there any information on the pre-screening process this year? Is there some 8-hour pre-screening marathon planned? If so, is it public this year, and if so... where/when is it going to be?

EDIT: GAHH!!! The last 10 seconds were cut off. Rerendering and Reuploading now...
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Re: The Otakon 2010 Thread (2 week warning)

Postby Scintilla » Fri Jun 18, 2010 6:36 am

dragontamer5788 wrote:Hmm... well... Cinelerra is kind of a crappy program >_<

Where's Trythil when you need him?
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Re: The Otakon 2010 Thread (problematic entries inside!)

Postby Brakus » Sat Jun 19, 2010 1:22 pm

Do you need judges for Iron Editor? As someone who's competed (and lost, argh), I'd like to jump in and help judge. :)

Also I will send the form in ASAP for my entry, as I will be one of many that will edit up until the last few hours getting this year's entry finished.
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Re: The Otakon 2010 Thread (problematic entries inside!)

Postby CodeZTM » Sun Jun 20, 2010 3:51 am

Well, I just re-read the rules and realized my entry violated the trolling rule [it won AFTER I sent it in]. I e-mailed the main e-mail address that I was removing that entry and sending in something new instead that didn't violate the rule. [vboruta was the e-mail address]. Hopefully this should be ok and not be overly problematic?
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Re: The Otakon 2010 Thread (problematic entries inside!)

Postby SailorDeath » Sun Jun 20, 2010 7:25 am

Quick question for ya, I noticed you said people should have gotten confirmation, check my spam folders as well as everywhere else and noticed I didn't have one. Just wann know if my entry is good.
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Re: The Otakon 2010 Thread (problematic entries inside!)

Postby VicBond007 » Sun Jun 20, 2010 9:15 am

Sailor Death: I know I sent you a confirmation ages ago. Your entry worked fine.

Code: Which con did your video win at? (I also replied to your e-mail)

Brakus: The usual process for picking judges is we go "hey, you wanna be a judge? OK. finish your drink and go sit at the judge's table." If you want in, just show up. Having more former competitors on the panel will be great.

Dragon: Don't beat yourself up over letterboxing, color spaces, etc. Do what looks right to you, that way I have a better starting point to work with. This Windows guy will fix all of the things you Linux folk can't figure out.
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Re: The Otakon 2010 Thread (Almost time to panic!)

Postby CodeZTM » Sun Jun 20, 2010 11:57 am

It won at Anime Mid Atlantic about a week and a 1/2 ago. But I already replied to you e-mail, I also just wanted to say thanks again for the swift reply. :up:
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Re: The Otakon 2010 Thread (Almost time to panic!)

Postby VicBond007 » Sun Jun 20, 2010 2:03 pm

Dragon: forgot to say earlier, but pre-screenings are in King of Prussia PA, about 15 mins from Philly if the people there knew how to drive. I'm sure Alan will post here shortly with more information.

I also wanted to say that as much of a hardass as I have been about the no-troll rule, I AM going to allow entries that won at AnimeNext to enter without penalty. I know this is going to tick a few of you off who held off entering ANext because of Otakon, and honestly I don't want the drama, but denying ANext entries would not be in the spirit of the rule, which I think is more important than the wording. The AMV contest deadline is 6/20, and ANext ends on 6/20. If one were to enter ANext, attend the con, not win, and then decide to enter Otakon, it would be extremely difficult for them to do so with the deadline being only hours from the close of the con. The SPIRIT of the rule was to stop people from entering somewhere, winning, then giving us a video that everyone already saw (and voted for) already. You got your win, go make something else. It was also meant to prevent people from sneaking around this rule by carpet-bombing every con in the country with their video as soon as it was finished, and then arguing that they didn't know it was going to be a success when they submitted it. I thought that I had timed the deadline to fall on a weekend with no cons, but nowadays I guess that's way tougher to do :\

Again, I'm sure someone is going to argue technicalities here, but this isn't the only place that I twist rules. If I disqualified everyone whose entry was in a wrong, or non-compliant format, I'd seriously only have 22 qualified entries so far. I do a lot to make sure that the contest is the best one possible, and that includes weeding out the trolls. Plus, i don't believe the official ANext results are even IN yet. I only know the winners because I know somebody who attended the con. This means that realistically, by the time the deadline passes, it's ENTIRELY possible that an entrant doesn't even KNOW they won somewhere else.

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Re: The Otakon 2010 Thread (Almost time to panic!)

Postby CodeZTM » Sun Jun 20, 2010 2:46 pm

That really doesn't seem too ridiculous to me. It makes perfect sense to me. :up:
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Re: The Otakon 2010 Thread (Almost time to panic!)

Postby irriadin » Sun Jun 20, 2010 3:14 pm

Yea, I don't think anyone is going to have a problem with that. Granted, my entry was completed two days ago, so I had no chance to enter ANext anyway...
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