The Death of Pop

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Postby Chaos Angel » Sun Dec 08, 2002 2:24 pm

I simply get bored with songs that I hear five times in the same hour every time I turn on the radio. And since many stations seem to play the same songs over and over, I have little interest in it.
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Postby NPC3000 » Sun Dec 08, 2002 2:57 pm

The thing that really annoys me is all these poppy, radio-friendly songs with that cheesy, studio gloss-over feel to them. You can tell there was no particular vision behind this kind of stuff, it's just calculated melodies drenched in sugary sweetness that's so obviously manipulative you feel like vomiting.

If I'm not making much sense, sorry, I don't know how else to describe it.

A lot of popular movies have a similar problem, they have this air of unreality about them that feels annoyingly contrived.
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Postby Aetherfukz » Sun Dec 08, 2002 3:17 pm

I know exactly what you mean.
That's what I can't stand with all these pop songs. They are just made to entertain the masses / make the most money out of it. I only listen to music, where the musician/arist really wants to say something thru the music, some kind of message (even if the message is tiny). That way I know for sure, that the artist made the music because he felt like it, and he wanted to share something with the world, not only because he wanna get rich...

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Postby Freako » Sun Dec 08, 2002 4:55 pm

The thing that really annoys me is all these poppy, radio-friendly songs with that cheesy, studio gloss-over feel to them. You can tell there was no particular vision behind this kind of stuff, it's just calculated melodies drenched in sugary sweetness that's so obviously manipulative you feel like vomiting.



excellent point NPC ... i was aruging this point the other day when a friend and i were discussing the new Nirvana song. my point ws .. The reason that nirvana was so popular , and translates as a hit today , is because kurt cobain had such a unique voice that wasnt perfect. And in a world of perfect melodies and everyone sounding like pearl jam (or creed, if you only 14) its nice to hear something that isnt perfect.
flawed, but yet .. it works .

no matter how much you hate courtney love, listen to doll parts .. or any other song from that cd.... and ask your self "who else could they get to sing these songs?" -and if you say avril lavene then you should be shot.

www.mp3.com/freako <--- you can do an AMV with one of these songs !
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Postby Aetherfukz » Sun Dec 08, 2002 5:03 pm

Freako wrote:excellent point NPC ... i was aruging this point the other day when a friend and i were discussing the new Nirvana song. my point ws .. The reason that nirvana was so popular , and translates as a hit today , is because kurt cobain had such a unique voice that wasnt perfect. And in a world of perfect melodies and everyone sounding like pearl jam (or creed, if you only 14) its nice to hear something that isnt perfect.
flawed, but yet .. it works .

Exactly. There's a german band called "Sportfreunde Stiller", their singer can't really sing, I mean he's far away from a perfect voice, but they make hell of a smooth music, damn good. That's what counts...
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Postby NPC3000 » Sun Dec 08, 2002 5:17 pm

Freako wrote:The reason that nirvana was so popular , and translates as a hit today , is because kurt cobain had such a unique voice that wasnt perfect.


Yeah, I think the big idea here is that perfection (or at least studio-type perfection) lacks significance and identity. If you can't really feel the presence of a human being behind the music then it doesn't have much effect. Studio shining tries to wear down the feeling of personality that music could otherwise express.
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Postby Rozard » Sun Dec 08, 2002 5:22 pm

Projekt[Navi] wrote:Pop never dies!!!!!!!!! :twisted:

Tiger Army Never Die!!! :twisted:
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Postby Sushi2 » Mon Dec 09, 2002 10:14 am

Something which is seriously damaging pop music in England are compititions such as Pop stars, Pop Idol, Pop Stars Rivals and Fame Academy.

However it has allowed the masses to wake up and realise how manufactured bands have become, where people have actually begun to hate such groups. Such as Hear Say (who won the first Pop Stars) were booed everywhere and went downhill after their first single went No.1, a year after they were formed they broke up.

Unfortunately there are still very stupid people who buy crap like.......... "The cheeky sonf (touch my bum)" :roll: , which is digraceful. IT WENT BLOODY 2ND IN THE CHARTS!!! 2ND!!!!!! Also not surprisingly they were first shown on Pop Stars Rivals and became famous due to the awfulness of their audition, and a record company signed them up.........but 2ND IN THE SINGLES CHARTS!!! COME ON!!!! Just download the song and you can hear the worst song ever created.
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Postby Aetherfukz » Mon Dec 09, 2002 11:31 am

Yay. They did it in germany, and now we are searching for the "one" Pop Star here in austria, too. ARGH >_<
But the masses don't realize how much those bands are being thrown together by some company which wants just the "perfect" band for those very people. They just keep buying this shit!

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Postby kthulhu » Mon Dec 09, 2002 7:46 pm

Aetherfukz wrote:I know exactly what you mean.
That's what I can't stand with all these pop songs. They are just made to entertain the masses / make the most money out of it.


It was like that in the 80s, too, but back then you actually had to be able to play your instruments, write your own lyrics, and create your own style most of the time. Nowadays, you have like 20 people for one lousy fucking vocalist (who may not be able to sing on their own), doing all that.
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Postby R-A-N-M-A » Mon Dec 09, 2002 9:06 pm

I hated pop and I danse on its grave. Just look at my avatar for a reinactement!
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Postby tamashii » Mon Dec 09, 2002 9:11 pm

R-A-N-M-A wrote:I hated pop and I danse on its grave. Just look at my avatar for a reinactement!


I'm with you, I hate pop to ( hmmm that rymed )
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Postby Wykith » Tue Dec 17, 2002 6:30 pm

kthulhu wrote:
Aetherfukz wrote:I know exactly what you mean.
That's what I can't stand with all these pop songs. They are just made to entertain the masses / make the most money out of it.


It was like that in the 80s, too, but back then you actually had to be able to play your instruments, write your own lyrics, and create your own style most of the time. Nowadays, you have like 20 people for one lousy fucking vocalist (who may not be able to sing on their own), doing all that.


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Postby Xploratio » Tue Dec 17, 2002 7:18 pm

Pop never dies , even tomorrow :lol: [img]C:\.castanet\fgf0.jpg[/img][/img]
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Postby ryu amata » Tue Dec 17, 2002 8:58 pm

rather it supposed to die or not it needs to, its worthless, has no feeling and no meaning.
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