SQ's Mini Action Synch Guide - Come C&C the Rewrite

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SQ's Mini Action Synch Guide - Come C&C the Rewrite

Postby SQ » Sun May 02, 2010 7:16 pm

New Thread/edit May 10:
I've re-written the entire guide today. As kickass suggested, I'm going to try and put in something to do with lyric synch, though I'm not sure exactly what examples to use just yet.
Here's the rewrite:
http://khat.us/files/amv/guide/sq.html
Please look at this and tell me if there's anything wrong or that can be improved! (Overall subject matter, typos, etc.)

The changes I've made were:
- Made the previously 3-page guide one cohesive page.
- Removed the "Wind Machine" entirely
- Kept all the general subject matter, but rewrote it all to be more "professional" sounding
- Added flip4mac as alternative to WMP for mac

I've kept all the original images and videos, as I figured that'd just be easier when re-uploading it to the site.
However, I was wondering if you think it may be more beneficial to stream such small videos? Y/N? I would like opinions on this.

My ideas for the lyric synch portion are as follows, but I'd also like some input on that as well:
Sections for
"Word synch" (changing scenes for every word)
"sentence/phrase" (change at ever sentence or phrase end)
"volume" (screaming provides different synch opportunities than whispering)

I'd like a lot more input on lyric synch since it's so up in the air. As I was thinking about it, I was wondering if I should just make a seperate guide entirely to get into the whole theory of it (Using different timing techniques based on where you are in a song [chorus, refrain, etc.]) but I decided that was too deep and I should dumb it down some.

Thoughts please??
Also, some good songs with small portions of lyrics that could be used as examples in the guide would be nice. I could always figure something out from own collection, but another set of ears would be nice. Also what types of songs should I pull clips from? Rap, rock, etc.?


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Original Thread:
I wish I had another account so I didn't sound like such a jackass saying this.

Regardless.

Does anyone use this?
Is it helpful at all?

I've seen people linking it, but in the same vein, I've also seen a few people talking bad about it.
The thing is several years old now, and I was thinking about rewriting it (if that were even possible).

The way it's written is pretty bad. It doesn't get the point across of what the guide is actually for. Which is to provide a basic understanding of the mechanics of how you can synch to things given different scenarios, not that you should synch or the theory of where to synch and what would fit where best (which would be more of madbunny's guide).

So I was wondering if I should bother trying to re-do this, or if I should leave it, or if I should ask for it to be removed if it is honestly not helpful.

If you guys hate the thing, let me know. I have thick skin, and I wrote that thing when I was like, what? 17? So it's not like it's going to hurt my feelings if you say it sucks or anything.

So, I guess I'm asking for some constructive criticism or feedback.

For those who have no idea what I'm talking about:
SQ's How to action synch
And also, Madbunny's How to make a basic action video 101

Both under the "Users tips and tricks" portion of the guides page.
Last edited by SQ on Mon May 10, 2010 11:42 am, edited 3 times in total.
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Re: SQ's Mini Action Synch Guide - Good? Bad? Get it Taken down?

Postby kickass331 » Mon May 03, 2010 3:01 pm

that's the guide I remember using years ago. For god's sake, rewrite it so people don't make the same mistakes I did. I use a lot of rap music, and your guide doesn't say what to do for that. Make it clear what to do when you're dealing with a vocal heavy song. Also, remove those stupid >_>s you don't need them!

P.S. your guide is very good for beginners. Don't delete it.
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Re: SQ's Mini Action Synch Guide - Good? Bad? Get it Taken down?

Postby SQ » Mon May 03, 2010 3:28 pm

Holy shit Kickass, I think this is the only genuinely nice thing you've said ever.

Aside from that, if I rewrite it, adding a vocal section for lyric synching wouldn't be too difficult. It has many of the same concepts.
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Re: SQ's Mini Action Synch Guide - Good? Bad? Get it Taken down?

Postby kickass331 » Mon May 03, 2010 3:41 pm

SQ wrote:Holy shit Kickass, I think this is the only genuinely nice thing you've said ever.

Aside from that, if I rewrite it, adding a vocal section for lyric synching wouldn't be too difficult. It has many of the same concepts.

maybe, but that's because I'm usually too caught up in my ego to be nice.
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Re: SQ's Mini Action Synch Guide - Good? Bad? Get it Taken down?

Postby JaddziaDax » Tue May 04, 2010 4:53 pm

I say keep the old one for now, but write a new one so we all can compare... I actually got a few good tips out of it when I started, but sync is one of those things that just takes time and practice.
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Re: SQ's Mini Action Synch Guide - Come C&C the Rewrite

Postby SQ » Mon May 10, 2010 11:41 am

All right, guys, thanks for the help so far.
I've re-written the guide completely and edited the first post of this thread to reflect that.

C&C would be much appreciated.
http://khat.us/files/amv/guide/sq.html
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Re: SQ's Mini Action Synch Guide - Come C&C the Rewrite

Postby Fall_Child42 » Tue May 11, 2010 10:08 am

Command & Conquer?
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Re: SQ's Mini Action Synch Guide - Come C&C the Rewrite

Postby Nya-chan Production » Tue May 11, 2010 10:23 am

I thought of the same :ying:
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Re: SQ's Mini Action Synch Guide - Come C&C the Rewrite

Postby SQ » Tue May 11, 2010 10:33 am

Dr.Dinosaur wrote:Command & Conquer?

Comments & criticism.

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Re: SQ's Mini Action Synch Guide - Come C&C the Rewrite

Postby Kitsuner » Tue May 11, 2010 4:54 pm

SQ wrote:
Dr.Dinosaur wrote:Command & Conquer?

Comments & criticism.

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Darn, I thought it was compare & contrast.
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Re: SQ's Mini Action Synch Guide - Come C&C the Rewrite

Postby downwithpants » Tue May 11, 2010 7:01 pm

um it looks almost exactly the same as before >>

first sentence under drum rolls has a typo though
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Re: SQ's Mini Action Synch Guide - Come C&C the Rewrite

Postby Prodigi » Tue May 11, 2010 11:02 pm

Remove anything and everything referencing white flashes.


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Re: SQ's Mini Action Synch Guide - Come C&C the Rewrite

Postby OtakuGray » Tue May 11, 2010 11:54 pm

*reads* :book:

Hey not bad! I like this =D Good advice ^^

I noticed that editors such as Soup will add two layers and fade one and have another begin to fade-in under it. I kinda like that idea but ive never really tried syncing a video using it. :|

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I think i did it a few times in "My Life" ...but not like Soup can :awesome:
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Re: SQ's Mini Action Synch Guide - Come C&C the Rewrite

Postby Kitsuner » Wed May 12, 2010 12:53 am

Prodigi wrote:Remove anything and everything referencing white flashes.


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please?

You racist.
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Re: SQ's Mini Action Synch Guide - Come C&C the Rewrite

Postby godix » Wed May 12, 2010 3:46 am

I gotta ask, do we really need a cookie cutter guide on how to make pointless crappy action videos that are exactly like every other pointless crappy action video we've seen for the last fucking decade? Wouldn't it just be easier to link to some mindless beatsync vid you think is good and say 'Do EXACTLY what they do, but with a different song'?
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