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Re: Mac Editors, Sound Off! What would you like to see?

Postby Athena » Fri Apr 30, 2010 6:13 pm

Qyot27, could you provide screenshots? I understand this, and could do it myself eventually, but given you already have everything running, adding screenshots to the above would make it easier for me to translate the above in plain English. Remember, half of the people using Macs that post in the Mac forum are first computer users. While the other half may be video professionals, everyone can benefit from my ability to simplify giant walls of text like the one above. To a new Mac editor, that looks like gibberish.
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Re: Mac Editors, Sound Off! What would you like to see?

Postby Qyot27 » Fri Apr 30, 2010 9:49 pm

Ok, screenshots of just HCenc/HCgui, regedit, and so on, or laying the Terminal stuff out too? I can probably manage to get them tomorrow, as the iMac isn't in a common room.
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Re: Mac Editors, Sound Off! What would you like to see?

Postby Athena » Fri Apr 30, 2010 10:02 pm

Just get everything together. The more the better.
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Re: Mac Editors, Sound Off! What would you like to see?

Postby Qyot27 » Sat May 01, 2010 4:30 pm

I've got the screenshots done. Do you want them cropped, and in PNG or JPEG?
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Re: Mac Editors, Sound Off! What would you like to see?

Postby Athena » Sat May 01, 2010 6:48 pm

I'd like access to the whole screenshots, png format. I can decide what to highlight and crop for a contest distribution addendum. Thanks, Qyot27.
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Re: Mac Editors, Sound Off! What would you like to see?

Postby Qyot27 » Sat May 01, 2010 7:49 pm

Here they are:
http://www.mediafire.com/?iwndjmnqojo

It also includes a description of the entire process I use with the Screenshots referenced in the proper order as they're relevant to each part.
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Re: Mac Editors, Sound Off! What would you like to see?

Postby Athena » Mon May 03, 2010 11:38 pm

I have confirmed mp4box runs natively on mac. Going to figure out how to get a recent, ffms2 enabled x264 build running as well. This ought to help with file size and quality overall.
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Re: Mac Editors, Sound Off! What would you like to see?

Postby Qyot27 » Tue May 04, 2010 1:09 am

I've been building FFMS2-enabled builds of x264 on XP and Ubuntu for three or four months now, and also built one on Snow Leopard the same afternoon I tested building Wine with MacPorts. The process requires Subversion, yasm, pkg-config, autoconf, libtool, and git-core to be installed (and possibly some other things, although I'm not sure of the entire scope - Xcode probably comes with a bunch of it already; if in doubt, use name_of_app --version to see if it is already installed). I also include faad and gpac in the builds, so the dev packages for those are required.

My initial time compiling it in Snow Leopard I think I left those pieces out because I couldn't figure out just what the package names for them in MacPorts are (I don't think gpac is available through MacPorts, actually, which means compiling it from the tarballs on the GPAC website*). If you compile gpac manually you will have the right libs to allow x264 to autodetect it and enable MP4 output, though. The instructions are below. It consists of building a limited FFmpeg, linking FFMS2 against it, building x264 against both of them so you have both LAVF and FFMS2 input support, and then building a full-featured FFmpeg. Only x264 and the full-featured FFmpeg are installed to the system in these steps.

Grab the source:

Limited FFmpeg
cd ffmpeg
./configure --prefix=$HOME/ffms2_build --disable-mmx --arch=x86_64 --enable-gpl --enable-version3 --enable-postproc --enable-pthreads --disable-encoders --disable-muxers --disable-debug --disable-network --enable-libfaad --disable-decoder=aac --disable-hwaccels --disable-filters --disable-indevs --disable-outdevs --extra-cflags="-march=core2"
make
make install

FFMS2
cd ../ffms2
./configure --prefix=$HOME/ffms2_build PKG_CONFIG_PATH=$HOME/ffms2_build/lib/pkgconfig
make
make install

x264
cd ../x264
PKG_CONFIG_PATH=$HOME/ffms2_build/lib/pkgconfig ./configure --extra-cflags="-march=core2"
make
sudo make install

Clean up FFMS2 and FFmpeg
cd ../ffms2
make uninstall
make distclean

cd ../ffmpeg
make uninstall
make distclean

Full-featured FFmpeg
./configure --disable-mmx --arch=x86_64 --enable-gpl --enable-version3 --enable-postproc --enable-pthreads --enable-libx264 --enable-libfaad --disable-decoder=aac --extra-cflags="-march=core2"
make
sudo make install









*If you want to try this, this is just copy-pasted from the Windows & Linux instructions. You won't get a workable mp4box out of it, but x264 will be able to output in MP4.
wget http://superb-east.dl.sourceforge.net/s ... 4.5.tar.gz
wget http://voxel.dl.sourceforge.net/sourcef ... 4.5.tar.gz
tar -zxf gpac-0.4.5.tar.gz
tar -zxf gpac_extra_libs-0.4.5.tar.gz
cd gpac_extra_libs
cp -r * ../gpac/extra_lib
cd ../gpac
chmod +x configure
./configure --disable-opengl --use-js=no --use-ft=no --use-jpeg=no --use-png=no --use-faad=no --use-mad=no --use-xvid=no --use-ffmpeg=no --use-ogg=no --use-vorbis=no --use-theora=no --use-openjpeg=no
cp config.h include/gpac/internal/config.h
make lib
make apps
sudo make install-lib
sudo make install
sudo cp bin/gcc/libgpac.so /usr/lib
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Re: Mac Editors, Sound Off! What would you like to see?

Postby Athena » Tue May 04, 2010 1:23 am

I already have mp4box. As long as x264 can make me the appropriate h264 file, why would I want to futz with the mp4box I already have running?

Also, I think I am going to put together a list in the first post of respondents...
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Re: Mac Editors, Sound Off! What would you like to see?

Postby Qyot27 » Tue May 04, 2010 9:00 am

Well, they don't have to conflict with each other. Stop short of the 'sudo make install' steps, and then copy the include/gpac directory and lib/libgpac_static.a to /usr/include and /usr/lib. The existing mp4box app wouldn't come into it, and the one built with GPAC itself would get scrapped. So the one there now would be fine.

It's mainly just in the interest of not having to export to a raw .h264 file first, because it's easier not having to worry about making sure the framerate is specified during the muxing step(s). The other option would be to use MKV, but mp4box can't take MKV files directly and demuxing would be required first, negating the entire point (unless, of course, the user wants to use MKV, in which case just grabbing mkvtoolnix is enough).
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Re: Mac Editors, Sound Off! What would you like to see?

Postby TEKnician » Tue May 04, 2010 2:59 pm

Hi, I'm a MAC. I use Final Cut Pro. I Rip DVDs. There should be an easy step-by-step how-to guide to go from DVD to FCP to MOV. Also, how do I make the resolution as high as possible without seeing those damn pixels on every outline of my characters? Remember, I IZ N00b.
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Re: Mac Editors, Sound Off! What would you like to see?

Postby Knowname » Tue May 04, 2010 3:04 pm

That Hi I'm a Mac line never gets old :/
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Re: Mac Editors, Sound Off! What would you like to see?

Postby Qyot27 » Tue May 04, 2010 8:02 pm

I went back and tested the build process for FFMS2 & x264 on Snow Leopard, and what I posted before wasn't correct, and the info on where the proper gpac include/lib files wasn't either. The corrected steps are below, and do have faad2 and gpac included.

For gpac, I compiled just the library on Snow Leopard, so this pack can be used to enable MP4 output in x264 without messing with mp4box at all. The 'gpac' directory needs to go into /usr/local/include, libgpac_static.a file needs to go into /usr/local/lib.
http://www.mediafire.com/download.php?ffmxtzjmtmd

MacPorts Dependencies:
sudo port install faad2 subversion git-core yasm pkgconfig automake autoconf libtool

Limited FFmpeg:
cd ffmpeg
./configure --prefix=$HOME/ffms2_build --disable-mmx --arch=x86_64 --enable-gpl --enable-version3 --enable-postproc --enable-pthreads --disable-encoders --disable-muxers --disable-debug --disable-network --enable-libfaad --disable-decoder=aac --disable-hwaccels --disable-filters --disable-indevs --disable-outdevs --extra-cflags="-I/opt/local/include -march=core2" --extra-ldflags="-L/opt/local/lib"
make -j4
make install

FFMS2:
cd ../ffms2
./configure --prefix=$HOME/ffms2_build PKG_CONFIG_PATH=$HOME/ffms2_build/lib/pkgconfig CFLAGS="-I/opt/local/include" LDFLAGS="-L/opt/local/lib"
make -j4
make install

x264:
cd ../x264
PKG_CONFIG_PATH=$HOME/ffms2_build/lib/pkgconfig ./configure --extra-cflags="-I/opt/local/include -march=core2" --extra-ldflags="-L/opt/local/lib"
make -j4
sudo make install

Clean up FFMS2 and FFmpeg:
cd ../ffms2
make uninstall
make distclean

cd ../ffmpeg
make uninstall
make distclean

Full-featured FFmpeg:
./configure --disable-mmx --arch=x86_64 --enable-gpl --enable-version3 --enable-postproc --enable-pthreads --enable-libx264 --enable-libfaad --disable-decoder=aac --extra-cflags="-I/opt/local/include -march=core2" --extra-ldflags="-L/opt/local/lib"
make -j4
sudo make install
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Re: Mac Editors, Sound Off! What would you like to see?

Postby Athena » Tue May 04, 2010 8:17 pm

The_TEKnician wrote:Hi, I'm a MAC. I use Final Cut Pro. I Rip DVDs. There should be an easy step-by-step how-to guide to go from DVD to FCP to MOV. Also, how do I make the resolution as high as possible without seeing those damn pixels on every outline of my characters? Remember, I IZ N00b.


Easy is relative, but this has already been done. And it's DVD to (in wine, or crossover) DGIndex to AviSynth to VirtualDub to AVI to MPEGStreamClip to MOV to FCP. :|

I'm working on restructuring the already available guide to address new versions of the programs involved.

I've added Mac Editor lists to the first post.
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Re: Mac Editors, Sound Off! What would you like to see?

Postby Athena » Thu May 06, 2010 10:23 pm

Normally, I wouldn't bump a thread by double posting, let alone do it to my own, because it would be self-serving, but I wanted to let the org know I managed to contact Shazzy. She is a professional editor who is completely retired from AMVs. Although I asked anyhow, I find it doubtful she is interested in contributing to any mac related guides or passing on those she had up for review. She's pretty much cut all ties with us.
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