Mac Editors, Sound Off! What would you like to see?

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Re: Mac Editors, Sound Off! What would you like to see?

Postby gotenks794 » Tue Apr 27, 2010 1:31 pm

Studio Hybrid wrote: biggest issue I have is with producing the final file for my finished video for the submitting to contests. I'm never quite sure if the file I've produced will play correctly on the contest coordinator's computer.


This is the same for me. I generally can get the footage to edit with easily enough, it's how to export that always seems to give me problems.
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Re: Mac Editors, Sound Off! What would you like to see?

Postby Athena » Tue Apr 27, 2010 5:09 pm

Hybrid, good to see you. I mentioned you the other day. You need to come back and edit more.

Got a solution to that now as well. Many windows users use TMPEnc. As long as FCP can render out lossless x264/MP4 or uncompressed in MOV changed over to AVI via MPEGStreamClip, you can use Avisynth via Crossover/Wine to create a HUFFYUV (or anything, honestly, that TMPGEnc can read), stick that in TMPGEnc (also in Crossover/Wine) and that will render out a MPEG-2 that will run correctly on a coordinator's computer.

I just had to develop that process for Gaycen like three days ago.

EDIT: I just noticed on Hyperion Edge that you have a new video finished. DO WANT, etc. We old peeps need to stick together. (For those playing the Kio is old game at home, Hybrid is member #603, Kio is #615).
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Re: Mac Editors, Sound Off! What would you like to see?

Postby Mkid » Tue Apr 27, 2010 10:16 pm

1) i only know 2 people who use mac and they use the Windows version of mac to edit, i only counted about 4 Me, you, leapoffate and Dcg
2) i Use Premeire Cs4 and it was a pretty easy transition from vegas 7.0 (i think)
3)How to Render out of avidemux, got the setting and everything... i just need to know how to export :/
4)How do you export from Avidemux :|
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Re: Mac Editors, Sound Off! What would you like to see?

Postby Athena » Tue Apr 27, 2010 10:36 pm

Pro_Pain wrote:1) i only know 2 people who use mac and they use the Windows version of mac to edit, i only counted about 4 Me, you, leapoffate and Dcg
2) i Use Premeire Cs4 and it was a pretty easy transition from vegas 7.0 (i think)
3)How to Render out of avidemux, got the setting and everything... i just need to know how to export :/
4)How do you export from Avidemux :|


1) Almost everyone in this thread edits on Mac. And many people posting threads in the Mac Forum obviously edit on a Mac. That's where I get my number.

2) Windows Vegas to Mac Premiere Pro?

3/4) You read my directions here.
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Re: Mac Editors, Sound Off! What would you like to see?

Postby JudgeHolden » Wed Apr 28, 2010 8:50 am

I might make a Tutorial for FCS when I start my new video ... but don't quote me on that. XD
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Re: Mac Editors, Sound Off! What would you like to see?

Postby Mkid » Wed Apr 28, 2010 10:09 am

2) Windows Vegas to Mac Premiere Pro?
Yeah, it was a very easy transition
3/4) You read my directions here.[/quote]
I'll read it AGAIN, i didnt seen anything about where is the export button lol :sweat:
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Re: Mac Editors, Sound Off! What would you like to see?

Postby -Reda- » Wed Apr 28, 2010 10:20 am

I'd like to see good videos by someone using a Mac.
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Re: Mac Editors, Sound Off! What would you like to see?

Postby Pie Row Maniac » Thu Apr 29, 2010 4:01 pm

I have a project coming along on my Macbook I'd like to have finished within the next month or so.

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Re: Mac Editors, Sound Off! What would you like to see?

Postby KagatoAMV » Fri Apr 30, 2010 10:23 am

Hey there Kionon.

It seems to take the AX deadline to get me focused enough to finish up one of my videos. But yeah, I've got a new one completed and I'm going to try to get another one ready before AWA.

I worked with a friend of mine on putting together an MPEG2 and H264 format versions of the video. He works with this stuff for a living and was able to point out what I was doing wrong. Turns out the reason my H264 versions were looking so bad was because I was taking the default data rate. Once I set that much higher, the artifacts went away.
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Re: Mac Editors, Sound Off! What would you like to see?

Postby Athena » Fri Apr 30, 2010 10:46 am

Studio Hybrid wrote:Hey there Kionon.

It seems to take the AX deadline to get me focused enough to finish up one of my videos. But yeah, I've got a new one completed and I'm going to try to get another one ready before AWA.

I worked with a friend of mine on putting together an MPEG2 and H264 format versions of the video. He works with this stuff for a living and was able to point out what I was doing wrong. Turns out the reason my H264 versions were looking so bad was because I was taking the default data rate. Once I set that much higher, the artifacts went away.


...and I just pmed you about this. Sorry. >.<!

Still, let's talk about this, it's more than just your encoding. We need to discuss formatting, especially flagging.
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Re: Mac Editors, Sound Off! What would you like to see?

Postby SQ » Fri Apr 30, 2010 11:06 am

Haven't read any of the stickies, haven't edited any AMVs on a mac (just things I've produced myself or at school), so I'm speaking out of my ass here.

But I think it'd be cool if there were some applicable AppleScripts. If they don't exist already.
Mostly for encoding video, but also possibly prepping video for import to your favorite editing program.

I'm not sure how do-able that would be, and it's certainly not a guide or anything, but it still would be nice to have if possible.
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Re: Mac Editors, Sound Off! What would you like to see?

Postby Athena » Fri Apr 30, 2010 11:10 am

Not sure how that would be relevant given the need to use AviSynth for prepping on Intels. On PPC? Sure, except in another year or two even the quad G5s will be doorstops. Pretty doorstops, but doorstops.
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Re: Mac Editors, Sound Off! What would you like to see?

Postby SQ » Fri Apr 30, 2010 11:13 am

Then ignore me. As stated previously, I was talking out my ass. =D
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Re: Mac Editors, Sound Off! What would you like to see?

Postby Athena » Fri Apr 30, 2010 11:43 am

SQ wrote:I'm running OS X 10.4. 1.83 GHz Intel Core Duo and 1GB 667MHz Ram.
It's a pretty old refurb, I just got it to finally get a mac, not with the intent of doing anything really productive on it (Good thing too, because it runs Photoshop like shit).


Want to feel like you just bought a brand new Mac?

1) 7200rpm drive. I suggest 500gb from Seagate.
2) Max out that ram to 2GB
3) Install Snow Leopard

It will fly in comparison. In Macs, the biggest speed gain is hard drive. SSD > 15000rpm > 10000rpm > 7200rpm > 5400rpm. You have a 5400rpm. Doubling ram WILL make a difference as well in huge programs like Adobe suite sections. On Intel Snow Leo is faster and smaller than Tiger or Leo. A lot of what bogged down Tiger and Leo were PPC artifacts that are unneeded in the Intel only Snow Leo. MacBooks have largely been unchanged from 2006 to 2009 ( they recently got a facelift). The only differences between my MacBook and yours is that mine can support 6GB of ramm instead of 2GB and it has a faster processor. That is pretty much it.
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Re: Mac Editors, Sound Off! What would you like to see?

Postby Qyot27 » Fri Apr 30, 2010 2:09 pm

For MPEG-2, HCenc (latest version, and the one I tested with) runs without problems in Wine*, gives excellent quality, is aimed at DVD compliancy, and it's free. I rarely use TMPGEnc these days because HCenc does pretty much everything I need it to do. My own profiles for HC024 can be downloaded here (copy the profiles to C:\Program Files\HC024 for ease of use): http://www.mediafire.com/?nttyug25zny

*even on Snow Leopard, which I can test under now.

On the other hand, it does divide the workflow - you need to encode audio and mux the file in separate steps, although it can be batch scripted, like so:
#!/bin/sh
wine wavi input.avs - | wine aften -b 192 - output.ac3
wine hcenc_024 -i input.avs -o output.m2v -ini "C:\Program Files\HC024\16-9_NTSCfilm-6000.ini"
wine mplex -f8 -V output.m2v output.ac3 -o final-output.mpg

For all I know there are OS X builds of aften and MJPEGTools mplex, though. You may even be able to grab them through MacPorts too.

HCenc's GUI interface does run just as well in Wine, so the only other steps would be making sure you have a frontend to aften (like EncWavtoAC3, but I didn't test it) and a frontend to mplex (like this one: http://sourceforge.net/projects/jplex-gui/files/ - didn't test this one either; you may need to put mplex.exe in Wine's C:\Windows folder or in jplex's main directory, though...needs Java, so the Windows version of the Java JRE is probably required). To use HCgui with the profiles I provided, load the profile first, then load the AviSynth script and define the output .m2v file.



Concerning Wine itself, though, thisismyinter no longer has downloads of it. I also would not recommend WineBottler (although the panel menu is nice, wish they had that in the regular version) because of syntax differences and general wonkiness. I followed the tutorial on http://davidbaumgold.com/tutorials/wine-mac/ to install it via MacPorts, and I've had no problems with it since - although the process took a while to complete on a 3 or 4 year old iMac. But it works exactly the same way it does on Linux. After installing it this way, I would first run wine regedit so that it can generate the configuration directory, and then suggest adding the drive_c folder (/Users/Name/.wine/drive_c) to the Sidebar in Finder so you can quickly navigate to it. If you get errors concerning permissions when trying to use wine to open a program, then the following will fix it:
sudo chown -R Name:Name /Users/Name/.wine

(where all those 'Name's are the actual username, of course)

Secondary Wine note: To edit Wine's PATH environment variable, open regedit again, navigate to HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE>System>CurrentControlSet>Control>Session Manager>Environment, double-click on the PATH entry and add the directories to it, separating them with semi-colons. This way there's no worries about wine hcenc_024 actually working if you put the HC024 folder in C:\Program Files instead of putting the .exe in C:\Windows. I do wish that Wine's configuration dialog had an option to do this without digging into the registry, but I think the diagram below is clear enough.

HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE (a.k.a HKLM)
+-System
| +-CurrentControlSet
| | +-Control
| | | +-Session Manager
| | | | +-Environment
| | | | | +->PATH
| | | | | | [Path environment variable for searching programs.
| | | | | | Default: c:\windows\system32;c:\windows;C:\Program Files\HC024;C:\Program Files\mplayer]
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