2010 VCAs - General Discussion

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Re: 2010 VCAs - General Discussion

Postby Le0 » Mon Feb 08, 2010 5:20 am

godix wrote:I already mentioned I don't really think the Russian communities zergrushed the VCAs, but it is interesting to note how many Russians are posting in this topic who have never had anything to do with the org before...

It's either a conspiracy or someone just posted about the drama on some russian amv site.

mirkosp wrote:Technically speaking, checking numbers on amvnews, the russian community has about 27k users. Org has about 812k users, so org is the bigger community out of the two.

Which proves that Aggr couldn't have won without the votes from .org community, isn't it?

mirkosp wrote:Hence, if that is your definition of most helpful, then you should have voted for someone helpful on the org.

I vote for the one most helpful to me personaly, and so does everyone else (i hope).

mirkosp wrote:It's not how many people you can help, but how much you help them.
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I think it's both.
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Re: 2010 VCAs - General Discussion

Postby Nya-chan Production » Mon Feb 08, 2010 5:28 am

Le0 wrote:
mirkosp wrote:Technically speaking, checking numbers on amvnews, the russian community has about 27k users. Org has about 812k users, so org is the bigger community out of the two.

Which proves that Aggr couldn't have won without the votes from .org community, isn't it?

Not really...

Where are those voting stats? :>

I still blame non-voting ppl.

VCAs - more srs bsnss than politics :amv:
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Re: 2010 VCAs - General Discussion

Postby mirkosp » Mon Feb 08, 2010 5:55 am

Le0 wrote:
mirkosp wrote:Technically speaking, checking numbers on amvnews, the russian community has about 27k users. Org has about 812k users, so org is the bigger community out of the two.

Which proves that Aggr couldn't have won without the votes from .org community, isn't it?

Well, in that 812k count there are a lot of inactive users and ones that don't care about vcas, admittedly. :P

mirkosp wrote:Hence, if that is your definition of most helpful, then you should have voted for someone helpful on the org.

I vote for the one most helpful to me personaly, and so does everyone else (i hope).

And that is fine. As I said I have absolutely nothing against Aggressor winning since I know he's been helpful in his community. I was just a bit dumbfounded with your earlier definition of "most helpful," that's all. :wink:

mirkosp wrote:It's not how many people you can help, but how much you help them.

I think it's both.

Well true enough, although amount of members you can help has importance until a certain point anyway. Of course, it's not the same thing helping out in a ~100 members community vs 100k members, but once you are over 10k members it's just about how much you ultimately went out of your way, I guess. :P
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Re: 2010 VCAs - General Discussion

Postby Lirinis » Mon Feb 08, 2010 5:58 am

mirkosp wrote:http://www.animemusicvideos.org/forum/posting.php?mode=quote&f=66&p=1301456
"Helpful in bigger community" as in "helpful to more people" as in "most helpful", amirite?

Technically speaking, checking numbers on amvnews, the russian community has about 27k users. Org has about 812k users, so org is the bigger community out of the two. [/quote]
Monthly audience of amvnews is only about 6500, actually.
And my estimation based on a last year poll and on a year before last poll is that less than 100 people from Akross and AMVNews voted on the VCAs.
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Re: 2010 VCAs - General Discussion

Postby Bauzi » Mon Feb 08, 2010 6:02 am

Aggressor is the most helpful member. It's absolutely right! AMVSimple is great soft for creating. On .org I must download 60Mb for one AMV. Just use amvsimple, say thants to aggressor..

Uhm... please blame the people who don't use "our" encoding method aka ZarxGUI. Actually it's more or less our own community encoder, because no one else presented his encoder here.

The language barrier sucks. I would like to do way more than just uploading my vids on AKROSS and download some vids from the site.
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Re: 2010 VCAs - General Discussion

Postby godix » Mon Feb 08, 2010 6:12 am

Bauzi wrote:The language barrier sucks. I would like to do way more than just uploading my vids on AKROSS and download some vids from the site.

It does suck. But you're doing better than I am. I haven't even bothered trying to figure out how to upload a vid to the russian community. Which is kinda annoying since I made a video using a Russian audio song and would be interested in what their reaction is, but damned language barriers.
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Re: 2010 VCAs - General Discussion

Postby Bauzi » Mon Feb 08, 2010 6:18 am

godix wrote:
Bauzi wrote:The language barrier sucks. I would like to do way more than just uploading my vids on AKROSS and download some vids from the site.

It does suck. But you're doing better than I am. I haven't even bothered trying to figure out how to upload a vid to the russian community. Which is kinda annoying since I made a video using a Russian audio song and would be interested in what their reaction is, but damned language barriers.

I don't think it's too hard with the help of babelfish and common internet experience. Oh there is an english version of AKROSS too, but I miss an english speaking corner of those sites for some discussions :|
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Re: 2010 VCAs - General Discussion

Postby Gaurry » Mon Feb 08, 2010 7:15 am

Find the non-russian person from .org-community, which voted for Aggressor, and ask him why he has voted for Aggressor :D
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Re: 2010 VCAs - General Discussion

Postby Lirinis » Mon Feb 08, 2010 7:26 am

Bauzi wrote:Oh there is an english version of AKROSS too, but I miss an english speaking corner of those sites for some discussions :|

I think you can just speak english in any topic, at least on amvnews, and nobody will be against it. There will be no english-speaking corner unless anybody regularly speaks english.
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Re: 2010 VCAs - General Discussion

Postby Ileia » Mon Feb 08, 2010 7:31 am

Lirinis wrote:
Bauzi wrote:Oh there is an english version of AKROSS too, but I miss an english speaking corner of those sites for some discussions :|

I think you can just speak english in any topic, at least on amvnews, and nobody will be against it. There will be no english-speaking corner unless anybody regularly speaks english.


Yeah, I remember reading a thread on the forums there and some English speaker was bumbling through Russian and was told just to say it in English. Anything that you babelfish'd would probably be worse than just saying it in English.
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Re: 2010 VCAs - General Discussion

Postby godix » Mon Feb 08, 2010 8:34 am

Actually a Russian community member mentioned amvnews.ru which I had forgotten about to be honest. Probably a better option anyway, AKROSS always struck me as being just as elitist as the org is, although not speaking the language I could be wrong. I just went through it and it's nice they included an option for English, although you still need google translate to actually sign up and upload a video.

Anyway, that's enough OT crap from me. I'll shut up now. I still don't think Russians really influenced much in the VCAs though.
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Re: 2010 VCAs - General Discussion

Postby angelx03 » Mon Feb 08, 2010 8:52 am

Thought the AMVs in AKROSS seem fresher to more people's minds consider those two contests occur so close together in terms of premiere dates. Even I have a hard time remembering the "solid" AMVs in the beginning of 2009 or any from the major U.S. cons where the AMVs are prominent like AWA, Otakon, and ACen.
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Re: 2010 VCAs - General Discussion

Postby Gaurry » Mon Feb 08, 2010 9:56 am

angelx03 wrote:Thought the AMVs in AKROSS seem fresher to more people's minds consider those two contests occur so close together in terms of premiere dates. Even I have a hard time remembering the "solid" AMVs in the beginning of 2009 or any from the major U.S. cons where the AMVs are prominent like AWA, Otakon, and ACen.


Best Action Video
De:Light - Aggressor
Premiere date - 18.04.2009

Video of the Year
Ian Fleming's Property of a Lady - qwaqa
Premiere date - 11.08.2009

Best Dramatic Video
Time - qwaqa
Premiere date - 03.04.2009

etc

fresher?)
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Re: 2010 VCAs - General Discussion

Postby JudgeHolden » Mon Feb 08, 2010 10:57 am

LittleAtari wrote:What probably helped the Russians quite a bit is that most of them are on at least two websites for amvs. If you're actively uploading to multiple websites, you're going to have a bigger audience. So maybe we should start uploading to Akross, AMVNews, etc. It does help with these competitions.


I've noticed if they like a video it will be uploaded there for you ... chances are your videos (at at least a few) are already on their site(s). :amv:


Just an example: http://amvnews.ru/index.php?go=Files&id ... iew#stream

I never posted it there ... me no speaky Russian. :book:
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Re: 2010 VCAs - General Discussion

Postby Bauzi » Mon Feb 08, 2010 11:12 am

JudgeHolden wrote:
LittleAtari wrote:What probably helped the Russians quite a bit is that most of them are on at least two websites for amvs. If you're actively uploading to multiple websites, you're going to have a bigger audience. So maybe we should start uploading to Akross, AMVNews, etc. It does help with these competitions.


I've noticed if they like a video it will be uploaded there for you ... chances are your videos (at at least a few) are already on their site(s). :amv:


Just an example: http://amvnews.ru/index.php?go=Files&id ... iew#stream

I never posted it there ... me no speaky Russian. :book:

True... I found my finalist vid on the site today :o
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