The best Avisynth filters

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The best Avisynth filters

Postby Mysterious Pharaoh » Mon Jan 25, 2010 3:48 pm

If i have pictures like these:

http://www.AceLayouts.com/uploads/image ... 4oNQDr.jpg
http://www.AceLayouts.com/uploads/image ... 4oNQDr.jpg

Which filters i can use to make them look better? i'm still new to Avisynth so i don't know much good filters.
And if anybody knows certain filters to make the video looks better always then please tell me, the only one i know is good for all videos is 'FieldDeinterlace()'
Thanks for everyone who is going to comment.
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Re: The best Avisynth filters

Postby Mysterious Pharaoh » Mon Jan 25, 2010 3:55 pm

I'm sorry, i posted one picture twice instead of posting the other one XD
Here is my other picture:

http://www.AceLayouts.com/uploads/image ... J0cnGW.jpg
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Re: The best Avisynth filters

Postby Enigma » Mon Jan 25, 2010 4:36 pm

From the looks of it it needs some croping,resizing,Sharpening and some smoothers :x.
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Re: The best Avisynth filters

Postby Kariudo » Mon Jan 25, 2010 4:42 pm

fielddeinterlace isn't used on every source (like, say if your source is already progressive)

Sorry to say, but the source of your first pic is crap. There is little you can do with that. Deblock() should help clean up the blockiness, but the best you'll be able to do will only make it look blurry.

Death Note could use some debanding courtesy of gradfun2db(). Personally, I'd also throw in a smoother like vaguedenoiser() and a sharpener like limitedsharpenfaster()...but gradfun2db() will give you the most visible improvement.
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Re: The best Avisynth filters

Postby Sora no Honou 空の炎 » Mon Jan 25, 2010 7:03 pm

Agree the second source could use some banding help. It also looks a bit over-smoothed to me, but nothing that cant be fixed up. The first source however, I think, is a lost cause.
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Re: The best Avisynth filters

Postby EvaFan » Tue Jan 26, 2010 3:41 pm

Sorahonoo 空炎 wrote:The first source however, I think, is a lost cause.

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The R1's of black cat are just terrible. I remember spending a day and a half just trying to get them to look DECENT enough to edit to and just couldn't find myself coping with any of the quality from the scriptwork I did. Honestly you're better off buying R2's if you have the money or just going with your second best source for the idea if you have one. It's just not worth the headaches and frustration to try and get it to look good unless your a masochist.
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Re: The best Avisynth filters

Postby mirkosp » Wed Jan 27, 2010 4:09 am

The fact that they are jpgs doesn't help, could you post pngs just to be sure what the input quality exactly is (although I fear there isn't much difference if any for black cat...)?
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Re: The best Avisynth filters

Postby Mysterious Pharaoh » Thu Jan 28, 2010 10:19 am

Kariudo wrote:Sorry to say, but the source of your first pic is crap. There is little you can do with that. Deblock() should help clean up the blockiness, but the best you'll be able to do will only make it look blurry.

Death Note could use some debanding courtesy of gradfun2db(). Personally, I'd also throw in a smoother like vaguedenoiser() and a sharpener like limitedsharpenfaster()...but gradfun2db() will give you the most visible improvement.


I tried Deblock() before for black cat but it didn't work, and making the picture blurry isn't really useful =(
And for death note, i didn't find it really different when i added gradfun2db(). Thank you for your comment anyway =)

Eva-Fan wrote:The R1's of black cat are just terrible.


You mean there is no way to make it better? Didn't you find even one good filter for it the R1 after spending that day and a half?
So everyone here can't help me make it better... What's so disappointing thing :(
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Re: The best Avisynth filters

Postby Mysterious Pharaoh » Thu Jan 28, 2010 10:26 am

mirkosp wrote:The fact that they are jpgs doesn't help, could you post pngs just to be sure what the input quality exactly is (although I fear there isn't much difference if any for black cat...)?


Here are the pngs:

http://www.AceLayouts.com/uploads/image ... AaXR5w.png
http://www.AceLayouts.com/uploads/image ... GUO9wf.png

I hope you can help me..
And thank you all for your comments.
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Re: The best Avisynth filters

Postby Kariudo » Thu Jan 28, 2010 10:39 am

Mysterious Pharaoh wrote:
Kariudo wrote:Sorry to say, but the source of your first pic is crap. There is little you can do with that. Deblock() should help clean up the blockiness, but the best you'll be able to do will only make it look blurry.

Death Note could use some debanding courtesy of gradfun2db(). Personally, I'd also throw in a smoother like vaguedenoiser() and a sharpener like limitedsharpenfaster()...but gradfun2db() will give you the most visible improvement.


I tried Deblock() before for black cat but it didn't work, and making the picture blurry isn't really useful =(
And for death note, i didn't find it really different when i added gradfun2db(). Thank you for your comment anyway =)

Perhaps vdub/mod is set to 16-bit color depth.
Options -> preferences -> main and then set output color depth to "use output setting"
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Re: The best Avisynth filters

Postby Mysterious Pharaoh » Thu Jan 28, 2010 3:12 pm

Kariudo wrote:Perhaps vdub/mod is set to 16-bit color depth.
Options -> preferences -> main and then set output color depth to "use output setting"


Well, i tried those filters on the image itself in Avisynth so i didn't render it using vdub/mod yet, will it be different after rendering? i think it's the same as i see in Avisynth.
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Re: The best Avisynth filters

Postby mirkosp » Thu Jan 28, 2010 3:25 pm

This is what I was able to do:
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gradfun2dbmod(1.5,temp=100)


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strength = 4
fft3dgpu(bw=6, bh=6, ow=3, oh=3, plane=0, bt=1, sigma=strength, sharpen=0.3)
fft3dgpu(bw=216, bh=216, ow=108, oh=108, plane=0, bt=1, sigma=strength/8, sigma2=strength/4, sigma3=strength/2, sigma4=strength/8, sharpen=0.3)
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awarpsharp2(depth=6)
mergechroma(deen)
lsfmod(strength=200)
gradfun2dbmod(temp=100)


Death Note could also use some sharpening and black cat didn't come out perfect (a bit blurry, but overall not too much compared to other filters' results), but I think they are acceptable improvements...
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Re: The best Avisynth filters

Postby EvaFan » Fri Jan 29, 2010 8:46 am

That's bettter then anything I did for sure, though that isn't really an intense scene or anything. I'd get him to give you a short vid clip of an intense scene with lots of movement, etc...

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Re: The best Avisynth filters

Postby Mysterious Pharaoh » Fri Jan 29, 2010 11:34 am

mirkosp wrote:Death Note could also use some sharpening and black cat didn't come out perfect (a bit blurry, but overall not too much compared to other filters' results), but I think they are acceptable improvements...


Thank you very very much, the pictures are much better than before specially black cat =) but there is a problem i got, most of the filters you wrote them didn't work with me, and i really don't know how to insert a new plugin in avisynth i was looking for 'gradfun2dbmod' and what i could download was an avsi file, i put it in the plugins folder in Avisynth but the filter didn't work, so can you please tell me how you got them, and how you let them work?

Thank you again.
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Re: The best Avisynth filters

Postby mirkosp » Fri Jan 29, 2010 11:51 am

Mysterious Pharaoh wrote:
mirkosp wrote:Death Note could also use some sharpening and black cat didn't come out perfect (a bit blurry, but overall not too much compared to other filters' results), but I think they are acceptable improvements...


Thank you very very much, the pictures are much better than before specially black cat =) but there is a problem i got, most of the filters you wrote them didn't work with me, and i really don't know how to insert a new plugin in avisynth i was looking for 'gradfun2dbmod' and what i could download was an avsi file, i put it in the plugins folder in Avisynth but the filter didn't work, so can you please tell me how you got them, and how you let them work?

Thank you again.

gradfun2dbmod requires other plugins. I have some links in this post, you should already have the other two, I think.
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