2010 VCAs - General Discussion

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Re: 2010 VCAs - General Discussion

Postby CodeZTM » Tue Jan 05, 2010 2:30 pm

You know, a bunch of people have mentioned this , but I guess it's obvious that people get a LOT of videos around this time each year. I've heard many people say "HEY! I've found x number of great videos I didn't know existed!".

I think a great thing would to have an entire forum area [underneath the 2010 ANimeMusicVideos.org Viewers' Choice Awards] dedicated to sharing every video [or the videos you think are good enough] you've made in the year. I know we have the self-promotion thread, but that's more about promoting yourself to the Choice Awards. I think this would be a great place for people that don't necessarily want to pimp out their vids for the VCA's, but still share them for people who'd like to see your progress over the year.

Plus, the people who get screwed in the announcements forum has a place to retry, and unknown people would have a place to get their work seen, and not be overpowered by the more well known editors.

I mean, to be honest, I haven't even HEARD of some of these people that are getting nominated in the VCA's, and while I could just go through their profiles, I'd still probably miss some people here and there, and it helps if people can talk about each other's year of editing, and have it up until like the end of VCA's.
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Re: 2010 VCAs - General Discussion

Postby Bauzi » Tue Jan 05, 2010 3:27 pm

Well... I don't know.

What I know is that I download more amvs today than I did the whole 2009 :o and I love all those suggestion threads. They give me a lot of great videos to enjoy :up: I don't want this threads to be gone after the VCA :( I would like to have a read only forum where I can still look up for other suggestions of great vids in 2009. Admins... please make such a VCA forum archive :o
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Re: 2010 VCAs - General Discussion

Postby mirkosp » Tue Jan 05, 2010 3:56 pm

Bauzi wrote:Well... I don't know.

What I know is that I download more amvs today than I did the whole 2009 :o and I love all those suggestion threads. They give me a lot of great videos to enjoy :up: I don't want this threads to be gone after the VCA :( I would like to have a read only forum where I can still look up for other suggestions of great vids in 2009. Admins... please make such a VCA forum archive :o


Well all the VCA forums are still archived. I guess they could technically be brought back up as read-only... but it pretty much defies the point of the suggestions forum.
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Re: 2010 VCAs - General Discussion

Postby Bauzi » Tue Jan 05, 2010 4:02 pm

mirkosp wrote:
Bauzi wrote:Well... I don't know.

What I know is that I download more amvs today than I did the whole 2009 :o and I love all those suggestion threads. They give me a lot of great videos to enjoy :up: I don't want this threads to be gone after the VCA :( I would like to have a read only forum where I can still look up for other suggestions of great vids in 2009. Admins... please make such a VCA forum archive :o


Well all the VCA forums are still archived. I guess they could technically be brought back up as read-only... but it pretty much defies the point of the suggestions forum.

Don't think so. Let us celebrate all the good videos of one year! We can have both. Best videos of a year and genre and best videos of a specific anime.
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Re: 2010 VCAs - General Discussion

Postby Fall_Child42 » Tue Jan 05, 2010 4:15 pm

Two things.

One.
Howabout istead of bringing up the suggestion threads... you just make the past years VCA winners and Runner Ups list easily available.

Like you could just have one thread that lists and links them all.

That way instead of detracting from the suggestion forum, it just makes it easier to Access the lists, (and it would be attached to the forum instead of the site) (digging through the main page links is kind of a hassle.)

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The category names are boring.
Can we change them? "Best Comedy" would be something like "The sugeon generals award for causing the most split sides and knee contusions as a result of hardy slaps"

Best Drama would become "The Eldrick T. Woods award for I hope he doesn't get caught in the field of playing the game."
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Re: 2010 VCAs - General Discussion

Postby mirkosp » Tue Jan 05, 2010 4:24 pm

Cap'n Toddenfreude wrote:Howabout istead of bringing up the suggestion threads... you just make the past years VCA winners and Runner Ups list easily available.

Like you could just have one thread that lists and links them all.

That way instead of detracting from the suggestion forum, it just makes it easier to Access the lists, (and it would be attached to the forum instead of the site) (digging through the main page links is kind of a hassle.)


http://www.animemusicvideos.org/members/amvvca/

On the right side you have all the previous VCAs. Click on the one you prefer and scroll down. All the nominees (that is, all vids that reached at least semi-finals) are listed. If there's no bgcolor, they are semi-finalists, finalists are green, winners are pink...
...well ok, this is true only starting VCA 2005, earlier than then only finalists are listed.
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Re: 2010 VCAs - General Discussion

Postby Bauzi » Tue Jan 05, 2010 4:27 pm

but in the end... you only get the videos that get into the semi-finals. We all know that a lot of videos we love to suggest don't even make it that far. :|
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Re: 2010 VCAs - General Discussion

Postby mirkosp » Tue Jan 05, 2010 4:34 pm

IIRC it only takes 20 or so votes to make it to semis... so it's not really that hard to make the semifinals cut. :|
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Re: 2010 VCAs - General Discussion

Postby GloryQuestor » Tue Jan 05, 2010 5:15 pm

Bauzi wrote:but in the end... you only get the videos that get into the semi-finals. We all know that a lot of videos we love to suggest don't even make it that far. :|


There is nothing before semi-final voting, though -- just the nomination period. So, if you need the entire collection of videos in a given year, just set the "Premiered" drop-down box in the Super Search to whatever year you want to review and hit "Search". It will bring up every video entry of that year for you to review. :wink:
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Re: 2010 VCAs - General Discussion

Postby mirkosp » Tue Jan 05, 2010 5:20 pm

GloryQuestor wrote:
Bauzi wrote:but in the end... you only get the videos that get into the semi-finals. We all know that a lot of videos we love to suggest don't even make it that far. :|


There is nothing before semi-final voting, though -- just the nomination period. So, if you need the entire collection of videos in a given year, just set the "Premiered" drop-down box in the Super Search to whatever year you want to review and hit "Search". It will bring up every video entry of that year for you to review. :wink:


I think he was referring to the vids suggested in the VCA forums but that don't make the semis.
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Re: 2010 VCAs - General Discussion

Postby Bauzi » Tue Jan 05, 2010 5:23 pm

GloryQuestor wrote:
Bauzi wrote:but in the end... you only get the videos that get into the semi-finals. We all know that a lot of videos we love to suggest don't even make it that far. :|


There is nothing before semi-final voting, though -- just the nomination period. So, if you need the entire collection of videos in a given year, just set the "Premiered" drop-down box in the Super Search to whatever year you want to review and hit "Search". It will bring up every video entry of that year for you to review. :wink:

this is somehow cynic =P

I don't feel like searching through all the not-so-good amvs before I find the gems. I just don't have the time, download voloume and patients. That's why I prefer the nominations threads.
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Re: 2010 VCAs - General Discussion

Postby Fall_Child42 » Tue Jan 05, 2010 6:25 pm

mirkosp wrote:
Cap'n Toddenfreude wrote:Howabout istead of bringing up the suggestion threads... you just make the past years VCA winners and Runner Ups list easily available.

Like you could just have one thread that lists and links them all.

That way instead of detracting from the suggestion forum, it just makes it easier to Access the lists, (and it would be attached to the forum instead of the site) (digging through the main page links is kind of a hassle.)


http://www.animemusicvideos.org/members/amvvca/

On the right side you have all the previous VCAs. Click on the one you prefer and scroll down. All the nominees (that is, all vids that reached at least semi-finals) are listed. If there's no bgcolor, they are semi-finalists, finalists are green, winners are pink...

Yeah ... but it's not on the forum ... and I'd like it if it were listed using the vidid format so you have a better idea of what it is when you click.

So basically copypaste all that into different threads and sticky/Lock them them.
...well ok, this is true only starting VCA 2005, earlier than then only finalists are listed.
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Re: 2010 VCAs - General Discussion

Postby Knowname » Tue Jan 05, 2010 7:25 pm

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Re: 2010 VCAs - General Discussion

Postby dwchang » Tue Jan 05, 2010 8:55 pm

mirkosp wrote:IIRC it only takes 20 or so votes to make it to semis... so it's not really that hard to make the semifinals cut. :|


This is what I was referring to earlier in my posts. It doesn't take that many votes to make the semi-finals which is why I feel they are A) useless and B) create a minor problem with regards to this 'group think' voting that people are complaining about. Ultimately it's not a HUGE deal since the contest itself is one popularity contest, but the problem still exists and has for many years.

I've said it many years in a row, but I think we should have gotten rid of the semi-finals a long time ago. In fact, there weren't semi-finals for the first few years if I remember correctly. I'm pretty sure someone has already commented on the correlation between the 5 videos with the highest votes during the semi-finals being the most likely to get into the finals so the semi-finals doesn't actually change anything. Then again, playing Devil's Advocate I could suggest that this means there is more exposure for the semi-finalists, but logically speaking, the semi-finals are redundant and just complicate and draw things out.

I'll also be blunt in that it rewards mediocrity. 20 or so votes isn't that much so why reward that?
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Re: 2010 VCAs - General Discussion

Postby mirkosp » Tue Jan 05, 2010 9:01 pm

dwchang wrote:I'm pretty sure someone has already commented on the correlation between the 5 videos with the highest votes during the semi-finals being the most likely to get into the finals so the semi-finals doesn't actually change anything.

Actually I seem to recall quite the opposite. I think jasper said somewhere that last year's Action winner barely made semis at all, which means that semis gave it exposure and if we just directly had finals another video would have won. This also means that a 20 or so mediocrity votes made sure that a worthy video actually got through...
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