Is Win7 better (for us amv-editors) than Win XP?

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Re: Is Win7 better (for us amv-editors) than Win XP?

Postby LantisEscudo » Wed Oct 21, 2009 5:18 pm

Bauzi wrote:There are no x64 applications of Premiere Pro and After Effects for XP.

For the record, there are currently no x64 applications of Premiere Pro and After Effects at all. Adobe claims that the CS4 versions are "architected and optimized for 64-bit OSes," but they are still 32-bit applications. The only Adobe app that has a native 64-bit version is Photoshop, though the CS5 versions of Premiere Pro and After Effects will be 64-bit only.
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Re: Is Win7 better (for us amv-editors) than Win XP?

Postby mirkosp » Wed Oct 21, 2009 5:25 pm

LantisEscudo wrote:though the CS5 versions of Premiere Pro and After Effects will be 64-bit only.

:shock: Guess I'll be getting a new pc when CS5 will get out...
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Re: Is Win7 better (for us amv-editors) than Win XP?

Postby Bauzi » Wed Oct 21, 2009 6:43 pm

Thx Lantis for explaning!

mirkosp wrote:
LantisEscudo wrote:though the CS5 versions of Premiere Pro and After Effects will be 64-bit only.

:shock: Guess I'll be getting a new pc when CS5 will get out...

Oh shi... Now this seams to be really mean. They should better hurry to release the x64 flash plug in first >_<
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Re: Is Win7 better (for us amv-editors) than Win XP?

Postby NeoQuixotic » Wed Oct 21, 2009 6:55 pm

With 64-bit only, I wonder if they will figure out a way for 32-bit codecs to work. Not everyone is going to make 64-bit codecs immediately, but I guess this is yet another nudge to force them. Heck, Windows 7 initially was going to be 64-bit only.
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Re: Is Win7 better (for us amv-editors) than Win XP?

Postby mirkosp » Wed Oct 21, 2009 10:46 pm

NeoQuixotic wrote:With 64-bit only, I wonder if they will figure out a way for 32-bit codecs to work. Not everyone is going to make 64-bit codecs immediately, but I guess this is yet another nudge to force them. Heck, Windows 7 initially was going to be 64-bit only.


Well, the codec issue was just with the preview. In order to export all the codecs were freely available, so my guess is that if they handle the codecs for the preview like they handle the codecs for the export, it should be fine.
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Re: Is Win7 better (for us amv-editors) than Win XP?

Postby Bauzi » Thu Oct 22, 2009 3:41 am

NeoQuixotic wrote:With 64-bit only, I wonder if they will figure out a way for 32-bit codecs to work. Not everyone is going to make 64-bit codecs immediately, but I guess this is yet another nudge to force them. Heck, Windows 7 initially was going to be 64-bit only.

If think that's because it was also designed for netbooks. I doubt that all netbooks run with dual cores... or am I wrong???

I wonder how good/bad the google OS will be, but if I remeber correctly it was purely designed for laptops and netbooks or something like that.
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Re: Is Win7 better (for us amv-editors) than Win XP?

Postby Knowname » Sat Oct 24, 2009 1:59 pm

one of the best things I'd ever done with my pc is make a custom xp sp2(b, it's an unofficial package that includes all of sp3 but the stupid stuff) bootdisk w/ various silent installers and taking out unneeded services and files. Due to this
http://forums.techguy.org/reviews/36912 ... grams.html
it took me 3 freaking days of installing and reinstalling xp over and over till I got it right! (about my only problem was having my mobo and wifi drivers autoinstalled... I then upgraded 2 weeks afterwards :/) But let me tell you, after a year and a half my windows folder is a little over 2 gigs and booting windows is close to painless!! I'd say bootup went down by about 150% (90 seconds out of 120, or 1.5 minutes LESS) And I'm on an IDE HDD.

I don't want to upgrade to Win7 (mostly cuz it's about time I went 64-bit, I got 6gigs or RAM :/) until they make a program to haxxor with it like that :)

Do they really make a Premiere version that takes advantage of over 4 gigs of RAM?? Or is it just the 32-bit version in a 64-bit environment.
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Bauzi wrote:There are no x64 applications of Premiere Pro and After Effects for XP.

For the record, there are currently no x64 applications of Premiere Pro and After Effects at all. Adobe claims that the CS4 versions are "architected and optimized for 64-bit OSes," but they are still 32-bit applications. The only Adobe app that has a native 64-bit version is Photoshop, though the CS5 versions of Premiere Pro and After Effects will be 64-bit only.

nevermind should have turned the page. Next year it is xD (actually can't I just make a ramdisk for the scratch and stuff thus utilizing the extra ram?? :/)
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Re: Is Win7 better (for us amv-editors) than Win XP?

Postby Qyot27 » Sat Oct 24, 2009 4:10 pm

Honestly, I'm salivating over the table that lists Win7 Pro and Ultimate as supporting 192 GBs of RAM. All I wanna know is, what could a consumer possibly run that could actually use that much - or heck, even a fourth - of that much RAM. And I'd like to see the case and mobo they'd have to have to put all that in.

(although it does make that reference to 100 GBs in "All About The Pentiums" start to look dated...finally)
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Re: Is Win7 better (for us amv-editors) than Win XP?

Postby Bauzi » Sat Oct 24, 2009 5:32 pm

Windows 7 surprises me:

-First... Yes it really boots and shuts down fast

-It worked great even without properly install my graphic card.
I got full 1680x1050 resolution. The style seamed to be a bit odd, but it was quite... nice? If Media Center wouldn't have told me that it needs more than 64MB graphic card RAM I wouldn't have noticed the lack in drive installation. Just watching videos was strange, because they didn't got resized smoothly.

-I never saw Premiere Pro and After Effects start up that fast. That was great.

-It seams like this OS really does know on how to use my RAM. When I close a program and reopen it, it starts up damn fast.

-I had no problems in editing so far:
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Just... the eyecandy is way too much for my taste. I look forward to reduce it =| Beside that... Hell I'm really pleased with Win7. Great!
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Re: Is Win7 better (for us amv-editors) than Win XP?

Postby Kariudo » Sat Oct 24, 2009 8:25 pm

Avisynth 32-bit installs and runs on my 64-bit Win 7 pro
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Re: Is Win7 better (for us amv-editors) than Win XP?

Postby Pwolf » Sat Oct 24, 2009 11:23 pm

Knowname wrote:I don't want to upgrade to Win7 (mostly cuz it's about time I went 64-bit, I got 6gigs or RAM :/) until they make a program to haxxor with it like that :)


That doesn't make any sense...
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Re: Is Win7 better (for us amv-editors) than Win XP?

Postby Bauzi » Sun Oct 25, 2009 4:52 am

Pwolf wrote:
Knowname wrote:I don't want to upgrade to Win7 (mostly cuz it's about time I went 64-bit, I got 6gigs or RAM :/) until they make a program to haxxor with it like that :)


That doesn't make any sense...


Mhm well... Yesterday I messed around with a Win7 Manager. You really have a lot of settings and you can adjust a lot of stuff, but well... you still have installed the services you disabled with Win7. I would give it a try and wait until your h4xx0r-app is released.
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Re: Is Win7 better (for us amv-editors) than Win XP?

Postby Zarxrax » Sun Oct 25, 2009 10:51 am

Knowname wrote:I don't want to upgrade to Win7 (mostly cuz it's about time I went 64-bit, I got 6gigs or RAM :/) until they make a program to haxxor with it like that :)

I used to strip down my XP builds just like you, I had a copy of XP on my netbook booting in 30 seconds. It was awesome. So I was hesitant to switch to 7.

But you know what? There's not really much of any NEED to strip much of anything out of 7. I did a full install, and you know what? It boots about as fast as my stripped down XP did, and you can actually uninstall everything that you don't want from inside windows. I stripped out internet explorer, media player, media center, all that lovely stuff.
And as far as services and things that run when you boot your computer? The list is surprisingly small. I went through every service looking for things that I might want to turn off, and I couldn't really find anything, save maybe one or two. Microsoft has done a really good job of streamlining this OS.
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Re: Is Win7 better (for us amv-editors) than Win XP?

Postby BasharOfTheAges » Tue Oct 27, 2009 8:26 pm

After over two months with win7 I'm already getting sick of having to use XP at work. Just simple things like dragging windows around to tile on different sides of the screen is so damn useful. Only complaint is that they still don't have soft-focus scrolling like just about every linux distro does. That shit is pure gold when you have a cluttered display... Also can't seem to get the automatic timed wallpaper switching to work right. I have a lot of nice new fractal walls I made and they're not getting rotation time unless I do it all manually.
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Re: Is Win7 better (for us amv-editors) than Win XP?

Postby Castor Troy » Wed Oct 28, 2009 7:36 pm

I just installed my free copy of win 7 ult I got at a Microsoft Developer Launch event and it's awesome. :up:

It took about 5 min to fully boot up my comp in XP and now it's been reduced to 2. :D
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