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Masking moving characters

Postby Omega Goku » Sat Jul 18, 2009 9:23 pm

I was always curious on how to mask moving characters in Vegas. Do I have to individually mask each moving part of each moving frame?
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Re: Masking moving characters

Postby Vivaldi » Sat Jul 18, 2009 10:03 pm

Omega Goku wrote:I was always curious on how to mask moving characters in Vegas. Do I have to individually mask each moving part of each moving frame?

Simply put, yes.
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Re: Masking moving characters

Postby NS » Sat Jul 18, 2009 11:14 pm

Yes, you have to mask them each frame, it can be a tedious process. some editors will do it in vegas or in Photoshop. I for one set aside times to do my masking segments and kinda just listen to music while I do it...but I don't mask often.
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Re: Masking moving characters

Postby Kaream » Wed Jul 22, 2009 6:12 am

masking takes patience, I think you should try chroma keying, its much easier.
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Re: Masking moving characters

Postby Enigma » Wed Jul 22, 2009 3:11 pm

SuperSaiyanBardock wrote:masking takes patience, I think you should try chroma keying, its much easier.

Chroma only works if your theres only 2 colors in the picture so it looks like a mask,But just mask every frame :).
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Re: Masking moving characters

Postby Niotex » Wed Jul 22, 2009 4:37 pm

-Soup wrote:
SuperSaiyanBardock wrote:masking takes patience, I think you should try chroma keying, its much easier.

Chroma only works if your theres only 2 colors in the picture so it looks like a mask,But just mask every frame :).

Not really.

A lot can be achieves with garbage mattes and chroma keying. Its just about how complicated you want to make it. Regardless for "quick/simple" use Chroma keying is indeed extremely limiting. As its designed to take out a background with clear color offsets. Like a Blue/Green screen etc.

Masking is the best option by far. Masking anime is easier then baking a cake so it shouldn't to too hard.
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Re: Masking moving characters

Postby Kaream » Thu Jul 23, 2009 2:55 am

-Soup wrote:
SuperSaiyanBardock wrote:masking takes patience, I think you should try chroma keying, its much easier.

Chroma only works if your theres only 2 colors in the picture so it looks like a mask,But just mask every frame :).


actually That's not true, I know people who are chroma Gods and can really shape it up to make it look just like a motion mask, creating perfection 8-)
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Re: Masking moving characters

Postby NS » Thu Jul 23, 2009 4:09 am

no you don't, trust us :o
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Re: Masking moving characters

Postby blabbler » Thu Jul 23, 2009 5:22 am

roto generally involves a mix of chroma/luma keys, matte chokers, garbage mattes and roto splines.

essentially whatever does the job with the best speed/quality tradeoff is what you use. you should definitely push keys as far as you can, they save a lot of time.
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Re: Masking moving characters

Postby Enigma » Fri Jul 24, 2009 5:47 pm

Niotex wrote:
-Soup wrote:
SuperSaiyanBardock wrote:masking takes patience, I think you should try chroma keying, its much easier.

Chroma only works if your theres only 2 colors in the picture so it looks like a mask,But just mask every frame :).

Not really.

A lot can be achieves with garbage mattes and chroma keying. Its just about how complicated you want to make it. Regardless for "quick/simple" use Chroma keying is indeed extremely limiting. As its designed to take out a background with clear color offsets. Like a Blue/Green screen etc.

Masking is the best option by far. Masking anime is easier then baking a cake so it shouldn't to too hard.

Good point,I take back what i said :|.
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Re: Masking moving characters

Postby Magnus » Wed Aug 05, 2009 7:11 pm

Niotex wrote:Masking is the best option by far. Masking anime is easier then baking a cake so it shouldn't to too hard.

Yeah, listen to Mr. I-roto-rain |:>
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Re: Masking moving characters

Postby xPiikanyaa » Fri Sep 04, 2009 12:42 pm

It depends what version of Vegas you're using really. If you use Movie Studio then you'd have to use a picture editing program to paint out the background of each individual frame. It takes a lot of patience.
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Re: Masking moving characters

Postby noeylani94 » Tue Dec 29, 2009 11:27 pm

NS wrote:Yes, you have to mask them each frame, it can be a tedious process. some editors will do it in vegas or in Photoshop. I for one set aside times to do my masking segments and kinda just listen to music while I do it...but I don't mask often.


Sorry, I'm a bit of a beginner at Vegas, but if you're masking in Photoshop, you can't mask a moving image? Does that mean you must import every frame of a video and mask it in Photoshop? Please explain in further detail :mrgreen:
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Re: Masking moving characters

Postby Falconone » Wed Jan 06, 2010 4:15 pm

if you cant use the pentool in vegas to mask, then you must export everyframe of the video and edit it. But i think you should check which frames have movements in the video. some are the same as the pic befor, so one less pic to edit.
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