Problems Importing to Sony Vegas

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Problems Importing to Sony Vegas

Postby AFT » Wed Jun 10, 2009 5:42 pm

To be honest, I don't know if there is a way around this. Here's my problem: when I'm in the menu to import and I select one of the fake avi files I created from my .avs videos, Vegas just freezes up and stops responding. Now the weird part is that it was working at one point- before I was finished mounting all the avs files I tested it and Vegas imported it fine... it just suddenly stopped working. I know for sure there's no problem with my avisynth scripts... I've tried every way I can think of to make it easier on vegas to open it but nothing works. The more I try the more frustrated I get.
Just in case you need this information: I'm using Sony Vegas Pro 8 and have everything from the AMVapp 3.0 installed.
Thanks in advance... any help is appreciated!
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Re: Problems Importing to Sony Vegas

Postby noelle675 » Sat Jun 13, 2009 4:36 pm

I've honestly never tried the fake avis with vegas before, but did you happen to use a compressor on the files in the process? I have a lot of problems with compressed video files and Vegas, so right now I just use uncompressed. Xvid files work for me, but if I have any more than one layer of video, Vegas will crash or not be able to play the files at all.

I don't usually use the import function either. I just use the explorer and drag and drop. Have you tried your files with a new project file? There might be a corruption in the one you're trying to use.
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Re: Problems Importing to Sony Vegas

Postby AFT » Sat Jun 13, 2009 8:15 pm

No, I didn't compress them at all (though I haven't really had too much trouble with compressed files in Vegas).
Something pretty interesting though... I have the trial for Vegas Pro 9 and tried it there. It lags for a few seconds but the fake avi's work perfectly there... Does that just confirm that there's nothing wrong with the files, just Vegas itself? If so, I guess I have no choice but to spend a few hundred dollars on the new program... that's what I want to avoid.
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Re: Problems Importing to Sony Vegas

Postby noelle675 » Sat Jun 13, 2009 8:56 pm

OK, I just got done making a fake .avi file for myself. And I had no problems importing it into vegas 8 pro.

At the end of your script did you make sure to convert back to RGB?

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ConvertToRGB32()
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Re: Problems Importing to Sony Vegas

Postby AFT » Sun Jun 14, 2009 10:43 am

Yes, I did convert it to RGB. Her'es my script:
MPEG2Source("C:\filename.d2v", cpu=6)
ConvertToYV12()
AMVDeint(mode=3)
Deen("w2d",3)
dfttest(sigma=16)
LSFmod(strength=100)
ConvertToRGB32()
But you said you had no trouble importing yours to Vegas... and my Vegas pro 9 trial imports them without trouble. :?: I'm lost here
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Re: Problems Importing to Sony Vegas

Postby Pwolf » Sun Jun 14, 2009 2:13 pm

have you tried importing one without all the extra filters in it? just:

MPEG2Source("C:\filename.d2v", cpu=6)
ConvertToRGB32()


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Re: Problems Importing to Sony Vegas

Postby noelle675 » Sun Jun 14, 2009 2:42 pm

I used Avisource for mine with filters. Maybe MPEG2Source doesn't work with Vegas?

Here's my script:
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AviSource("C:\Documents and Settings\Noelle\Desktop\dreamscope_nankurunaisa.avi")
ConvertToYV12()
Deen(mode="a2d", rad=4, thrY=7, thrUV=9, min=0.5)
VagueDenoiser(threshold=2, method=3, nsteps=6, chromaT=2.0)
ConvertToRGB32()


I don't have a .d2v file so I could test Mpeg2Source with my vegas.
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Re: Problems Importing to Sony Vegas

Postby Pwolf » Sun Jun 14, 2009 3:17 pm

noelle675 wrote:I used Avisource for mine with filters. Maybe MPEG2Source doesn't work with Vegas?


it works fine. I've used the fakeavis method before when I used vegas for a video.


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Re: Problems Importing to Sony Vegas

Postby AFT » Sun Jun 14, 2009 4:49 pm

Pwolf- I tried importing one without filters as you suggested and that works. I also took it a step further and tried the same script I mentioned before, taking out one of the filters and testing if those worked (to see if it was one of the particular filters I was working with that was causing my trouble). In short, I tried this:

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MPEG2Source("C:\filename.d2v", cpu=4)
ConvertToYV12()
Deen("w2d",3)
dfttest(sigma=16)
LSFmod(strength=120)
ConvertToRGB32()

And then this:
Code: Select all
MPEG2Source("C:\filename.d2v", cpu=4)
ConvertToYV12()
AMVDeint(mode=3)
dfttest(sigma=16)
LSFmod(strength=120)
ConvertToRGB32()

...and then removed dfttest, then lfsmod. None of those worked either- so then I just tried it with only one filter at a time, and the only time it worked was when I was only using deen and nothing else. So I can conclude this: my Vegas DOES import fake avi files but in the end I can only use one filter, which is deen. But obviously, the video doesn't its best only with that one filter. Am I being forced to try every filter out there individually to see if it works...?
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Re: Problems Importing to Sony Vegas

Postby Pwolf » Sun Jun 14, 2009 4:59 pm

I think the problem is that you have too many filters and it's just running slow which is causing vegas to crash or hang. You can try the avsfs method:

http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?t=133313

It may or may not help but it's worth a try. Other option is to create clips in virtual dub with lagarith. or... don't worry about cleaning your source. Just run an IVTC/deinterlace.


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Re: Problems Importing to Sony Vegas

Postby AFT » Sun Jun 14, 2009 8:26 pm

I don't know if I made it too clear in my last post, but I even tried it with only one filter at a time and even that didn't work, except with deen. Therefore I doubt that the problem is that I'm using too many filters. I need at least some decent cleaning on my footage, though. Simply deinterlacing it is out of the question.
By the way, the AVFS method is using the virtual file system, right? Because that's what I'm using to make my fake avi's.
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Re: Problems Importing to Sony Vegas

Postby Pwolf » Sun Jun 14, 2009 8:52 pm

AFT wrote:I don't know if I made it too clear in my last post, but I even tried it with only one filter at a time and even that didn't work, except with deen. Therefore I doubt that the problem is that I'm using too many filters. I need at least some decent cleaning on my footage, though. Simply deinterlacing it is out of the question.
By the way, the AVFS method is using the virtual file system, right? Because that's what I'm using to make my fake avi's.


you could try ffdshow's makeavis and there's also another one called VFAPI which is what I used before.

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Re: Problems Importing to Sony Vegas

Postby AFT » Mon Jun 15, 2009 9:35 am

I've actually tried ffdshow and my computer didn't particularly like it; to be honest neither did I. I'll try VFAPI though, and see if that helps. In the meantime, I have another question.
If all else fails, VirtulDub is there, right? Before I tried the fake avi's method I attempted encoding my .avs files with Lagarith in Vdub. The process of encoding a 30- minute long clip took nearly five hours. At this rate, it'll take almost a hundred hours to encode all the clips I need... Is this normal?
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Re: Problems Importing to Sony Vegas

Postby Tearx » Wed Jul 15, 2009 3:39 am

AFT wrote:I've actually tried ffdshow and my computer didn't particularly like it; to be honest neither did I. I'll try VFAPI though, and see if that helps. In the meantime, I have another question.
If all else fails, VirtulDub is there, right? Before I tried the fake avi's method I attempted encoding my .avs files with Lagarith in Vdub. The process of encoding a 30- minute long clip took nearly five hours. At this rate, it'll take almost a hundred hours to encode all the clips I need... Is this normal?


Yes it is normal..sadly . That is why most pick out the scenes they want to use before hand, thus saving time and hardrive space =D
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Re: Problems Importing to Sony Vegas

Postby AFT » Fri Jul 17, 2009 10:00 am

To be honest I started this project in haste so I'm stuck with those 30-minute long clips. So I guess I have no choice but to wait those 100 hours... But it'll be worth it in the end anyways.
Thanks, by the way, everyone that gave me advice here. You helped a lot.
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