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Postby CorpseGoddess » Thu Sep 25, 2008 2:40 pm

x_rex30 wrote:Instead of just working and keeping their mouths shut, liberals bitch about what's wrong with our government and are lazy when it comes to work. They constantly bite the hand that feeds and constantly question. They have a hard time accepting things like the government can and should be trusted. They could be with us but they decided to be against us. In other words they want terrorists to win and are in a way terrorists themselves. No lie, it's definitely true. They are non separatist trash. These destructive bastards really need to be more patriotic and start supporting their country. God bless.


So why aren't you just "working and keeping [your] mouth shut"? Sounds like you're bitching about what's wrong with the person's post.

And the moment you stop questioning anything---authority, religion, yourself---you're dead. There is nothing more patriotic than exercising the rights that democracy has given us, which include the right to question the government. "Patriotism" is a catch phrase and has nothing to do with reality or one's relationship or view of one's country.

But thanks for trying, little necroposter!
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Postby Kariudo » Thu Sep 25, 2008 2:42 pm

This just in!

America = stupid
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politicians = liars
hide your young boys from your priests and avoid public bathrooms at airports
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Postby x_rex30 » Thu Sep 25, 2008 3:06 pm

I actually didn't mean any of it and it's funny that the people who know I blow smoke fall for it. :roll:

I guess I could call it satire. Some things show I'm making fun of conservatives I think, like calling liberals non separatists. I mean I guess conservatives may be non separatists when it comes to certain things like church and state, but when it comes to rednecks and some other conservatives, they seem pretty prejudice.
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Postby CorpseGoddess » Thu Sep 25, 2008 3:15 pm

x_rex30 wrote:I actually didn't mean any of it and it's funny that the people who know I blow smoke fall for it. :roll:

I guess I could call it satire. Some things show I'm making fun of conservatives I think, like calling liberals non separatists. I mean I guess conservatives may be non separatists when it comes to certain things like church and state, but when it comes to rednecks and some other conservatives, they seem pretty prejudice.


Ah, well...you came across very authentically. :P

That's the peril of posting without emotes to people who don't know you, I guess.
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Postby x_rex30 » Thu Sep 25, 2008 3:39 pm

Ah yes. I learned to speak very conservative by watching fox news. I think they talk this way on that show. Saying things like "I think" are very taboo on the channel. They talk in the fashion as what comes out of there mouths is completely true and not up for debate. That's why I enjoy watching John Stewart a lot more because he lets people talk and he can actually have good debates. If I watched a liberal show with debates and they acted the way fox news does all the time, I wouldn't be able to enjoy it very much because I like good debates.
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Postby godix » Thu Sep 25, 2008 4:04 pm

x_rex30 wrote:That's why I enjoy watching John Stewart a lot more because he lets people talk and he can actually have good debates.

WTF are you on? That has happened exactly once that I know of. He doesn't run a debate show, he'd be the first to tell you it's a liberal leaning political parody show and if you're getting your facts solely from him then you're pretty fucking stupid.

He is generally far funnier than anyone at Fox though. Although the closer the election comes the dumber Stewart seems to be getting so perhaps at this point O'Reilly is funnier.

As a total side note, it's JON Stewart.
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Postby dwchang » Thu Sep 25, 2008 11:38 pm

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x_rex30 wrote:That's why I enjoy watching John Stewart a lot more because he lets people talk and he can actually have good debates.

WTF are you on? That has happened exactly once that I know of. He doesn't run a debate show, he'd be the first to tell you it's a liberal leaning political parody show and if you're getting your facts solely from him then you're pretty fucking stupid.

He is generally far funnier than anyone at Fox though. Although the closer the election comes the dumber Stewart seems to be getting so perhaps at this point O'Reilly is funnier.

As a total side note, it's JON Stewart.


I'd have to agree. Anybody who gets their facts from COMEDY CENTRAL and think they're 'fair and balanced' is retarded, misinformed and biased. They've stated that they're liberal-leaning multiple times...

Also it's not a debate. One thing that irks me about the Daily Show (and I do watch and enjoy it) is that Jon (and Colbert) interrupt their interviewees way too often. They'll ask a question and the guy gets two words out and then BAM interruption or counter-point.

Hey, you asked the guy/gal on to talk...let them talk. You may not always agree, but let them at least finish their statement. It's even more appalling when it's a world leader or former president. That's just embarrassing. It was actually painful to see Tony Blair look mildly annoyed during the interview b/c Jon wouldn't let him speak. WTF IS UP WITH THAT?

(and again, I watch daily and still enjoy the show so this isn't Comedy Central hate)
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Postby x_rex30 » Fri Sep 26, 2008 12:01 am

godix wrote:
x_rex30 wrote:That's why I enjoy watching John Stewart a lot more because he lets people talk and he can actually have good debates.

WTF are you on? That has happened exactly once that I know of. He doesn't run a debate show, he'd be the first to tell you it's a liberal leaning political parody show and if you're getting your facts solely from him then you're pretty fucking stupid.

He is generally far funnier than anyone at Fox though. Although the closer the election comes the dumber Stewart seems to be getting so perhaps at this point O'Reilly is funnier.

As a total side note, it's JON Stewart.
Well I can say the same about The O'Reilly Factor. At the end of the show he can be serious in his discussions and will let people talk, unlike O'Reilly.

Did I spell O'Reilly right? If not you can correct me to make some form of point that you are right over me because I didn't spell something right. :roll:

Also I don't get my facts from him as I'VE SAID in other threads I love research. I don't believe what is told to me I research it.. but I can say some of the things on the show I can find more valid than fallacies on foxnews.

I can say PEOPLE who rely on information on the tv and especially fox news are pretty fucking stupid but would I be completely right about that? Am I smarter than everyone who doesn't do the research themselves and believe things based on what they want to follow and only base things on what they hear?

Colbert interrupts his guests as part of the show. He is suppose to be making fun of O'Reilly.

On JON Stewart I've seen people on the far right go on and he waits patiently for them to speak.

OH WAIT!! I have something good. May not be true as I don't just blindly believing studies as fact but I try to research to see how BS it might be.

"The University of Maryland conducted a thorough study of public knowledge and attitudes about current events and the war on terrorism. The extent of Americans misperceptions vary significantly depending on their source of news. Those who receive most of their news from Fox News are more likely than average to have misperceptions. Those who receive most of their news from NPR or PBS are less likely to have misperceptions. Looking at the misperceptions one at a time, people were asked, for example, if the U.S. had discovered the alleged stockpiles of WMD in Iraq since the war began. Just 11% of those who relied on newspapers as their "primary news source" incorrectly believed that U.S. forces had made such a discovery. Only slightly more --- 17% --- of those who relied on NPR and PBS were wrong. Yet 33% of Fox News viewers were wrong, far ahead of those who relied on any other outlet. Likewise, when people were asked if the U.S. had "clear evidence" that Saddam Hussein was "working closely with al Queda," similar results were found. Only 16% of NPR and PBS listeners/viewers believed that the U.S. has such evidence, while 67% of Fox News viewers were under that mistaken impression."

http://newsinfo.iu.edu/news/page/normal/4159.html
http://mediamatters.org/items/200605250003

Godix, I didn't know you attacked others spelling to help support your feelings of them being wrong. Kinda lame.

Edit: and I can get examples of jon stewart letting people talk, like even some from over a year ago letting major republican groups that come on his show.. for example I've seen the show on tv many times when john mcain shows up and he lets him talk with maybe little interruption, especially if you compare some democrat coming on O'Reilly's show. At least if I compare it to The O'reilly factor, you can actually hear the other side bringing important issues, not jokes to the show. Or do politicians come mainly to bring jokes? Yeah they have jokes but they bring serious issues.

Ah here we go. Typed in Mccain and jon stewart on google and found this.

http://www.crooksandliars.com/2007/04/2 ... aily-show/

Here I see, Jon Stewart letting mccain getting his points across, Jon Stewart not yelling and talking with around the same tone of voice, jon not calling him an idiot or other names because of jon mccains views. and very serious discussing, no?

dwchang wrote:Anybody who gets their facts from COMEDY CENTRAL and think they're 'fair and balanced' is retarded, misinformed and biased.
I would say the same thing towards you if you thought O'Reilly was fair and balanced in comparison. I don't get my facts from TV though I get it through a ton of research that even looks at contradicting evidence. I see it a trait that people wouldn't even look at contradicting evidence that is presented to them. I just gobble it up and even look for legitimacy in it. Do you do that? Do you know anyone else that does that? I think it's a rarity that folks can actually look at contradicting evidence in depth. It's like they have some sort of fear that they were wrong about something.. I don't know exactly what they fear and can't quite put my finger on it.

I have a challenge. A compare and contrast challenge. Get me the best sources you can to show that fox news especially bill'O are better than debates at the end of The Daily Show and especially ones that show fair and balance. I honestly people who rely on fox news are f'ing morons but I could be wrong. If you want to see if you can outsmart me and show that I'm wrong for trusting Jon Stewart towards the end of the show VS O'Reilly, I'll admit I was completely wrong for feeling I can get more legitimacy out of a comedy show than the non biased O'Reilly factor. And I'll give myself a very negative black and white title. Or you can give me one and I'll accept it. :lol:

And GO!
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Postby guy07 » Fri Sep 26, 2008 1:03 am

That was one long ass post .... :shock:
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Postby dwchang » Fri Sep 26, 2008 1:10 am

This will be a reasonably short reply since you don't seem to have reading comprehension skills...(Edit: OK it got longer and so I'm a liar)

I don't think Godix or I actually said anything about Fox being fair and balanced. In fact, I despise them and Bill O'Reilly. I'm not entirely sure why you've turned the discussion into a FOX vs. Comedy Central argument since that's irrelevant and was never inferred (at least by me) so that ends that part of the discussion fairly succinctly.

As for interruptions, if you say so buddy. Like I said, I like the show and watch it, but it still irks me. Maybe you have a larger threshold for it than I, but citing a few examples here and there is hardly 'good research.' I should know since I'm a Ph. D. student doing *wait for it*...research for a living. What you're doing would hardly be considered a concrete and irrefutable argument. I could cite single examples of the opposite and by your logic, we'd both be right.

This is simply a taste, preferences and perception thing and you can't really argue against those things since they differ person to person. It's like me saying the sky is blue and you saying it's a light blue.

(and yes I realize Colbert does it as part of the show, but sometimes there's actually something important to be said or something I'm actually interested in hearing and it just gets interrupted so it's still annoying regardless of if it's an act or not)

Edit: And I seem to have missed the attack on my ability to look at both sides of an argument and think that's kind of a low blow from you with no actual 'evidence' to back it up. And from someone who apparently does so much research! Shouldn't have you examples from me? Citations? Journal articles? Things that infer that I don't? If not, I'm not sure what you're getting at other than blindly attacking. You know who does that? FOX NEWS!

I WIN
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Postby x_rex30 » Fri Sep 26, 2008 1:12 am

... :o

I dunno, good points.. Anyways in the beginning I said I find fox news to be more biased than compared to a comedy show.

I was mainly in the beginning making fun of certain ways of thinking then soon later I was comparing the fox news network to the daily show.

I think a lot would agree that it's trash but in a sense it seems you both are defending fox news because I compared to a show like The Daily Show.

I didn't even say you don't look at both sides I just said it seems hard for most people to look at both sides. So there's an example of you making a hasty conclusion that would go against someone who finds them self to be a good researcher.

In the end, I'm just making fun of certain ways of thinking and fox news that promote that certain way of thinking. That's what I meant in the first place with my satire. Why oh why did I have to say I rely on The Daily Show more than anything on fox news. I guess I was digging my own grave just by saying that one small detail. :(
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Postby dwchang » Fri Sep 26, 2008 1:27 am

x_rex30 wrote:Edit: and I didn't even say you don't look at both sides I just said it seems hard for most people to look at both sides. So there's an example of you making a hasty conclusion that would go against someone who finds them self to be a good researcher.


lolwhut?

x_rex30 wrote:Do you do that? Do you know anyone else that does that? I think it's a rarity that folks can actually look at contradicting evidence in depth. It's like they have some sort of fear that they were wrong about something..
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Postby Nessephanie » Fri Sep 26, 2008 1:28 am

The last few Daily Shows I've watched, he totally interrupted the guests quite a bit...I actually noticed it right away too. The guy who played Two-Face barely got two words in last night imo. It was still a funny interview, but still...
/My two cents

And may I just point out, that this entire conversation about Fox VS. The Daily Show, is really fucking stupid? >_>
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Postby x_rex30 » Fri Sep 26, 2008 1:31 am

dwchang wrote:
x_rex30 wrote:Edit: and I didn't even say you don't look at both sides I just said it seems hard for most people to look at both sides. So there's an example of you making a hasty conclusion that would go against someone who finds them self to be a good researcher.


lolwhut?

x_rex30 wrote:Do you do that? Do you know anyone else that does that? I think it's a rarity that folks can actually look at contradicting evidence in depth. It's like they have some sort of fear that they were wrong about something..
I asked if you do that, I didn't say you did that.
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Postby x_rex30 » Fri Sep 26, 2008 1:38 am

nessephanie wrote:The last few Daily Shows I've watched, he totally interrupted the guests quite a bit...I actually noticed it right away too. The guy who played Two-Face barely got two words in last night imo. It was still a funny interview, but still...
/My two cents
I haven't watched TV for a long time so I wouldn't know.

And may I just point out, that this entire conversation about Fox VS. The Daily Show, is really fucking stupid? >_>
Edit:Some studies say different but I can respect your view. I'm sorry for making fun of you because you don't agree with my comparing the two sources.
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