Are you enjoying the Olympics regardless of Politics?

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Postby jasper-isis » Sun Aug 10, 2008 10:04 pm

I'm keeping an eye on the volleyball, swim, dive, and fencing events. Everything else is just whatever happens to be on TV.

Otohiko wrote:I am also honestly tired of a) the Tibet junkies; b) the people keen on viewing all societies through their own lens. Unfortunately good, valid causes are now full of ineffectual, poorly-informed flag-waving hippies, provocateurs, and armchair democracy activists who've little sense of the world outside their safety box.

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Postby Serv0 » Sun Aug 10, 2008 10:51 pm

Otohiko wrote:I am only somewhat disturbed by the olympics on the news virtually blocking out the much more important world event at the moment.


I am also honestly tired of a) the Tibet junkies; b) the people keen on viewing all societies through their own lens. Unfortunately good, valid causes are now full of ineffectual, poorly-informed flag-waving hippies, provocateurs, and armchair democracy activists who've little sense of the world outside their safety box.

I do admit, the Olympics is a bit overrated. But then again it is the olympics...imagine if the US were to cancel Independence Day because the rest of the world says the US is an evil and corrupt nation. Maybe universal sporting is not quite our cup of tea, but it is a tradition.

I can also concur with your viewpoint on protestors against the PROC government. When I was in Beijing last year, the Chinese were very enthusiastic with preparing for the Olympic events. Largely due to the fact that China is trying to adapt and modernize with the rest of the world. The Olympics you might say is a form of China's attempt at re-entering back into the world.

I've noticed that China is adapting more capitalists ideals than ever before. Especially with their policies of energy. While The US seems to be adapting more socialists ideals, especially with the liberal movement.
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Postby downwithpants » Sun Aug 10, 2008 11:37 pm

lol @ france

nbc is exceptionally horrendous this year though - phelps going for 8 golds is more important than the simple fact that the US relay team won? and in epic fashion? its all about individuals and records, not competition on TV. they need to give it to fox or something.
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Postby Niotex » Sun Aug 10, 2008 11:37 pm

I only watched the opening to be honest. The sports don't interest me as much as the politics actually. That and I'm secretly hoping for some shit to go down. It's been a while since the western world has had a good and old school bitchslap. And with all the political bullshit going down it would be the perfect setting.
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Postby guy07 » Mon Aug 11, 2008 12:44 am

Is it true that the american network showing the Olympics DELAYED it so they could get more money for prime time commercials? 0-0;
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Postby NS » Mon Aug 11, 2008 1:37 am

guy07 wrote:Is it true that the american network showing the Olympics DELAYED it so they could get more money for prime time commercials? 0-0;


Probably, we're money grubbing assholes.
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Postby BasharOfTheAges » Mon Aug 11, 2008 5:15 am

guy07 wrote:Is it true that the american network showing the Olympics DELAYED it so they could get more money for prime time commercials? 0-0;


Yea, it has to be that, and not the fact that the majority of the audience actually works or sleeps for the better part of the day that isn't prime time.
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Postby Kristyrat » Mon Aug 11, 2008 7:05 am

I thought the footprint fireworks were pretty cool, and then I found out that all but the last were faked for the TV broadcast. Granted, that would have been incredibly difficult to actually film well, even from multiple helicopters.

For some reason, I usually get pretty excited about the Olympics, but this year I just don't feel like I've gotten into it. Maybe when I start watching some more of the sports I enjoy it'll happen, but it just feels like this year has lost a lot of its lustre.
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Postby Sukunai » Mon Aug 11, 2008 7:56 am

Politically speaking.

Interesting seeing Bush treat it as a vacation.
Putin is likely glad he's only the PM right now.
Harper, he just didn't feel like going. Yeah for my government looking stupid again.

Tibet, hmm I sympathize with them a bit. But, I think the most they are doing is showing that peaceful protests usually only work on western democracies. Peaceful protests are not known to work in Communist dictatorships.
Thus, in the end, Tibet needs to get real.
It's a country that's nothing but friggin mountains. They could likely have more fun tormenting China's military, than the Taliban is having with the west.
but they'd have to be happy with KILLING Chinese soldiers too I suppose.

Leave, or I'll say leave again.

I want the Olympics to be a gathering of nations for a noble cause, really I do.
The athletes can't exactly just pick the time and place.

It just happens to be in China this time.

China, a county of billions not millions, with a need for food, and they have a large potent war machine to back up that need.
And they also own a LARGE chunk of the US debt. Don't go looking for the US to shove the Chinese around, not unless they feel like paying their bills any time soon.
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