Adobe Premiere Pro CS3 MKV Support?

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Adobe Premiere Pro CS3 MKV Support?

Postby Typhoon859 » Fri Aug 01, 2008 2:11 pm

Is there any way to get Adobe Premiere to support MKV files or it simply just doesn't support it?
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Postby The Origonal Head Hunter » Fri Aug 01, 2008 3:18 pm

haven't tried, but it's probably best to convert them to uncompressed/lossless avi's with VirtualDubMod and then load them in premiere.
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Postby Typhoon859 » Fri Aug 01, 2008 3:25 pm

The Origonal Head Hunter wrote:haven't tried, but it's probably best to convert them to uncompressed/lossless avi's with VirtualDubMod and then load them in premiere.


Well, I basically use MKVEXtractGUI to take out the h264 AVI file and then import it to Premiere. The problem with any type of change to a file is that I have to keep those extra files and it uses a lot of space instead of me just being able to import the original file. You think making it into uncompressed/lossless AVIs using VirtualDubMod is better than importing the original AVI inside the MKV? Cause that makes EVEN MORE space wasting. Many encoding programs just import the decoders already installed on the computer. Is there any way to do that with Adobe Premiere CS3 or maybe some alternate way of importing MKVs?
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Postby Falconone » Fri Aug 01, 2008 3:30 pm

I dont know but trie it with avisynth... but i think also, that the best way is like The Origonal Head Hunter said, over VirtualDubMod
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Postby The Origonal Head Hunter » Fri Aug 01, 2008 3:35 pm

why do you need to keep the ripped file once you've converted it to lossless, or am I just misunderstanding there?
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Postby Typhoon859 » Fri Aug 01, 2008 3:43 pm

The Origonal Head Hunter wrote:why do you need to keep the ripped file once you've converted it to lossless, or am I just misunderstanding there?


I'm just saying that I'm able to import what I need by muxing out the video track from the MKV. The problem is, that means that I have to keep extra files just for editing purposes and it's a waste of space, instead of me just being able to import the original MKV encodes.

Now, if you're ABSOLUTELY SURE that there's no way to import the original MKV files, my next question was whether it's better to do what I'm doing now which is just to rip out the original AVI in the MKV or whether it's better to do what you suggested originally and convert it into a uncompressed AVI? Wouldn't it be better just to import the original AVI inside the MKV or is there something in Premiere CS3 that reads and then renders losless AVI in higher quality?
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Postby LivingFlame » Fri Aug 01, 2008 4:28 pm

No, it won't support MKV files as Matroska is not an industry standard. It's mostly just used for fansub whoring.

You might be able to make an AviSynth script that calls the .mkv file and then import that .avs file via the AviSynth plugin for Premiere. That is assuming that the plugin works in CS3; I don't actually know if it does or not.
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Postby Typhoon859 » Fri Aug 01, 2008 4:33 pm

LivingFlame wrote:No, it won't support MKV files as Matroska is not an industry standard. It's mostly just used for fansub whoring.

You might be able to make an AviSynth script that calls the .mkv file and then import that .avs file via the AviSynth plugin for Premiere. That is assuming that the plugin works in CS3; I don't actually know if it does or not.


That's one thing I've never learned yet and I don;t know all this AviSynth stuff. I don't get what it is or how it works or what it does even though I have it and see it everywhere. If what you say were possible. I'm sure somebody would have made that already and posted it somewhere.
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Postby The Origonal Head Hunter » Fri Aug 01, 2008 4:35 pm

I'm pretty sure if you did a search for 'MKV in Premiere' you'd find a few similiar threads that would help you out.
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Postby Typhoon859 » Fri Aug 01, 2008 4:37 pm

The Origonal Head Hunter wrote:I'm pretty sure if you did a search for 'MKV in Premiere' you'd find a few similiar threads that would help you out.


That's how most people respond lately, lol. "Google it!" Ugh, I hate that. Forums are made for a reason ^^
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Postby The Origonal Head Hunter » Fri Aug 01, 2008 4:42 pm

Typhoon859@GMail.com wrote:
The Origonal Head Hunter wrote:I'm pretty sure if you did a search for 'MKV in Premiere' you'd find a few similiar threads that would help you out.


That's how most people respond lately, lol. "Google it!" Ugh, I hate that. Forums are made for a reason ^^
And the question has been answered many times on this forum already. Just do a Forum Search for it.
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Postby LivingFlame » Fri Aug 01, 2008 4:51 pm

Well, we do have a guide for AviSynth.

We also have another guide on how to use those .avs files in Premiere.

Basically, create an .avs file and write in it:
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DirectShowSource("C:\file path\video file.mkv")


After that, you'll have to read the guide about getting it into Premiere, because I've never personally done that. And be aware that it's possible that this plugin doesn't work in CS3. I don't know.
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Postby LivingFlame » Fri Aug 01, 2008 4:53 pm

Oh, and for the record, if the plugin doesn't work, then scroll down in that second guide to the part entitled "Frameserving Avisynth to Programs without .avs Support" and do that instead.
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Postby mirkosp » Fri Aug 01, 2008 4:59 pm

LivingFlame wrote:Well, we do have a guide for AviSynth.

We also have another guide on how to use those .avs files in Premiere.

Basically, create an .avs file and write in it:
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DirectShowSource("C:\file path\video file.mkv")


After that, you'll have to read the guide about getting it into Premiere, because I've never personally done that. And be aware that it's possible that this plugin doesn't work in CS3. I don't know.


Basically x2 that BUT I suggest you to use the FFmpegsource instead of the directshowsource.
Differences are:
- ffmpegsource is frame accurate while directshowsource isn't (this often leads to frame order erros with directshowsource)
- ffmpegsource creats a cache file for your video the first time you run the script, which means that it will kill way less ram than directshowsource (which means premiere will crash way less, perhaps won't even crash).

usage is:
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ffmpegsource("C:\file path\video file.mkv")

this will not import audio. To get audio you should use
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ffmpegsource("C:\file path\video file.mkv", atrack=-1)

this will make a cache file for your audio... and it will be stored as uncompressed pcm so it WILL weight quite a lot...

Also, the avs plugin for premiere works just fine in pro cs3. :)
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Postby BasharOfTheAges » Fri Aug 01, 2008 6:21 pm

Typhoon859@GMail.com wrote:
The Origonal Head Hunter wrote:I'm pretty sure if you did a search for 'MKV in Premiere' you'd find a few similiar threads that would help you out.


That's how most people respond lately, lol. "Google it!" Ugh, I hate that. Forums are made for a reason ^^


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