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Postby BasharOfTheAges » Mon Jan 21, 2008 1:48 pm

Have you even attempted to Read ErMaC & AbsoluteDestiny's Friendly AMV Guides?
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Postby Phantasmagoriat » Mon Jan 21, 2008 2:43 pm

okay, it may not have been clear from the beginning, but in order to do this, you need to be able to open your files in a certain way that can handle both your source files and letterbox-alterations.

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-the source footage and method of capture will affect this.
-the file format, video/audio codecs used to encode your files will undoubtedly affect this.
-the video width/height and aspect ratio will inevitably affect this.
-the video/audio codecs you currently have on your computer will affect this
-there isn't an individual program I know of that will [correctly] handle all of the hundreds/thousands of video formats out there, and output to any other format
-capture/conversion to some standard format may be required in order to do what you ask
-if you thought I was crazy when I told you to 'make a new folder... make a .txt file... ect', no, I am not on crack. This is called "opening your file through a script." It is a method of opening a file by calling upon your computer's codecs to handle the file you are trying to open; If you can open through a script, you can simply type "addborders(#pixels on left, #pixels on top, #pixels on right, #pixels on bottom)" in your script, and your problem is solved.

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-you need to start providing us with any relevant information required to handle your situation.
-you need to start responding to the things we say; I haven't counted how many posts you left unaddressed
-it doesn't hurt to google some terms and reread a post [perhaps even multiple times]
-if you are asked what part doesn't make sense, don't say EVERYTHING, tell us where you are stuck


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-Remember, if you want us to help you, you need to 'put us in your situation' otherwise it is impossible to tell what you are dealing with.
If you cannot effectively convey this through words, do it literally, by sending us a clip of what you are working with [you can use whatever file-sending protocol you want]
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Postby SyberiaWinx » Mon Jan 21, 2008 3:30 pm

I really don't appreciate you talking down to me. This rudeness is why I stopped talking to you on IM. He has followed all your instructions word-for-word, and we have both provided you answers for whatever we could.
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Postby SyberiaWinx » Mon Jan 21, 2008 3:31 pm

BasharOfTheAges wrote:Have you even attempted to Read <a href="http://www.a-m-v.org/guides/avtech/">ErMaC & AbsoluteDestiny's Friendly AMV Guides</a>?


Yes. As have many people. While a thurough guide, it's near impossible for people unfamiliar with all the technical terms to make sense of. As are all guides on this site.
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Postby Athena » Mon Jan 21, 2008 3:48 pm

SyberiaWinx wrote:I really don't appreciate you talking down to me. This rudeness is why I stopped talking to you on IM. He has followed all your instructions word-for-word, and we have both provided you answers for whatever we could.


Phantasm isn't talking down to you. He's getting frustrated (as am I) because he doesn't have a clear visual picture of what you have or what you want to do.

Yes. As have many people. While a thurough guide, it's near impossible for people unfamiliar with all the technical terms to make sense of. As are all guides on this site.


The issue is that technical terms mean something. The guides should be explaining what the terms mean.

Do I need to add a glossary of terms to mine?

By learning what they mean and asking us for help by using them, it is easier for us to help you out. Otherwise our posts will be convoluted, complicated, and large when we must spell out every term. We are trying. As we have been patient with you, please be patient with us.

The next step, I think, would be to post two pictures of the source material. One picture with the letterboxing present, and the one without. Then we can actually go about trying to figure out how to make them match.
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Postby Phantasmagoriat » Mon Jan 21, 2008 4:01 pm

SyberiaWinx wrote:I really don't appreciate you talking down to me

I am not talking down to you, or being rude; simply trying to show you that saying things like the following really aren't helping your cause:
SyberiaWinx wrote:*runs in circles*

SyberiaWinx wrote:I never saw the original files...

SyberiaWinx wrote:The source is a video game. He recorded the scenes onto his PC using some kind of device.


In addition to what Kio said, try to post what gspot tells you, even if you don't know what it means [maybe using a picture, or whatever you can].
And there's always the option of sending a clip like I said in my last post.
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Postby SyberiaWinx » Mon Jan 21, 2008 4:08 pm

You do talk down to people, and you're selectively quoting me along the same lines. The source IS a video game. We've answered every question we can. Here are the screen caps:

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The scene on the left is one of the ones that needs the black bars added, but not on it or cutting it in anways. The scene on the right is one of the scenes that had black bars already, upon recording, as it's a story scene.
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Postby Athena » Mon Jan 21, 2008 4:15 pm

SyberiaWinx wrote:You do talk down to people, and you're selectively quoting me along the same lines. The source IS a video game. We've answered every question we can. Here are the screen caps:

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The scene on the left is one of the ones that needs the black bars added, but not on it or cutting it in anways. The scene on the right is one of the scenes that had black bars already, upon recording, as it's a story scene.


Here's what you should do, the picture on the top (left) should be cropped all the way around (get rid of the black entirely) and resized to 4:3 resolution. Do the same with the second clip, but add the black bars for letterboxing so that the bottom (right) is also 4:3. I will post appropriate pictures, hold on.
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Postby Athena » Mon Jan 21, 2008 4:21 pm

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Postby SyberiaWinx » Mon Jan 21, 2008 4:40 pm

You've lost me.O_O They still don't look right.
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Postby Athena » Mon Jan 21, 2008 4:54 pm

SyberiaWinx wrote:You've lost me.O_O They still don't look right.


You're first example is 4:3, the second example is 16:9. The black borders were added by the game developers to handle older TVs that cut off part of the screen. You need not have them on release destined for computer monitors. In order to make 16:9 and 4:3 match, you must add letterboxing to the 16:9 source so that the source plus the letterboxing equals 4:3. Those images are both 320x240 4:3. They don't just look right, they are right.

If you do not want to match them via 4:3, what do you wish to do instead? Be painstakingly clear. Or use photoshop on your pictures to demonstrate how you want the two clips to look and then post them here.
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Postby SyberiaWinx » Mon Jan 21, 2008 4:58 pm

We want to add black letterboxing to the scene with the girl, so that we can match the picture up to the scene with the boy.
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Postby Niotex » Mon Jan 21, 2008 5:08 pm

Crop 30 off top/bottom and add a 30 border on top/bottom.

If you have problem with understanding these logics. Then by god I wish you luck in the remaining years of your life.
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Postby SyberiaWinx » Mon Jan 21, 2008 5:10 pm

For one, that is the rudest response I've ever seen. Don't even bother trying to "help" if you are going to act like that. And your response is not helpful.
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Postby Phantasmagoriat » Mon Jan 21, 2008 5:16 pm

if this is what you want [this sort of thing is hard to describe] here goes:

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image 1:
Code: Select all
imagesource("cap0071.jpg")
crop(28,10,-28,-18)
lanczosresize(584,324)
addborders(28,42,28,114)
lanczosresize(320,240)

image 2:
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imagesource("cap0012.jpg")
crop(28,42,-28,-114)
addborders(28,42,28,114)
lanczosresize(320,240)
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