The AMV half-hour show on the Anime Network

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The AMV half-hour show on the Anime Network

Postby rubyeye » Wed Nov 06, 2002 5:52 pm

YES!!!
Now that ADV has announced the development of The Anime Network, this is a golden opportunity for editors and visual artists to contribute to the establishment of an AMV program - designed to showcase Anime Music Videos.

There is an unprecedented potential not only for visual artists to "strut there stuff", but also commercial outlet for even more anime (like popular titles that have not been licensed such as Azumanga Daioh), and for musical artists (mainstream and underground) who could benefit from the added exposure to an audience who may otherwise not know they even exist.

We've all talked about videos that inspired us or introduced us to Anime and Bands we are now fans of, right.

The presentation of such a show could be either just a string of videos or having a host like on Extended Play on TechTV or even like how VH1 does some of it's cool shows.


~An intriguing idea - anybody else want to back me up in support of it? Or if you see some problems with it, put it on the table for discussion.
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Postby Koopiskeva » Wed Nov 06, 2002 5:54 pm

Hot deal!! I'm all for this! Although, I wouldn't know where to start on getting this idea on air. o.O
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Postby Rozard » Wed Nov 06, 2002 6:05 pm

EK's boyfriend Brett Weaver works for ADV... :twisted:
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Postby anneke » Wed Nov 06, 2002 6:16 pm

I can't see them buying the rights to having the various music played on their station. Expecially when they first start up.

The anime wouldn't be as bad an issue, provided you use stuff they already have the rights to.

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Postby Zarxrax » Wed Nov 06, 2002 6:29 pm

Wow, so ADV is starting a network huh :shock:
I'm betting it'll be dubbed anime all the time :roll:

Anyways... I thought companies couldn't acknoledge the existance of AMVs?
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Postby RichLather » Wed Nov 06, 2002 6:45 pm

Anneke is right. The money involved (not to mention the egos) in getting the rights to individual songs and artists would be nearly astronomical.

Not to mention that what AMV producers do is borderline illegal. It differs from Star Wars fan films in that we're taking existing footage and changing it around.

Sure, it'd be nice, but I don't think it will happen without a lot of limitations.
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Postby Chaos Angel » Wed Nov 06, 2002 7:00 pm

Zarxrax wrote:Anyways... I thought companies couldn't acknoledge the existance of AMVs?


Think of the musical montages Cartoon Network made. They can if they own the rights or get permission to show the anime and the music being used.

I'm sure there are several underground or non-mainstream artists, both for the anime and the music, who would love to have their work shown to the broad public and would readily give permission for their work to be broadcast in the form of an AMV

As for acknowledging their existance, I quote this article from the Chicago Tribune.

"Many anime releases get their start in the U.S. as "fan-subs." These are usually video copies of films and TV shows with homemade subtitles or dubbing. And although fan-subs are essentially bootlegs, the practice is usually tolerated because the copies are traded among fans at no charge and because anime boosters use the popularity of fan-subs to encourage U.S. companies to distribute anime DVDs and videos."

-Tooned to Adults, Chicago Tribune, November 3, 2002

So, they acknowledge the existance of fan-subs. AMVs could be considered an extension of the fan-sub world (both are made off of copied footage and are traded at no charge). But, if they get permission to show the AMV, it's a moot point anyway.

Aside from contributing a couple videos, I doubt there's anything I could do to help out. But, it sounds like a great idea and I hope it goes through.

I'll have to look up this Anime Network thing. Hopefully it'll air in my area. ::crosses fingers::
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Postby Garylisk » Wed Nov 06, 2002 7:26 pm

Zarxrax wrote:Wow, so ADV is starting a network huh :shock:
I'm betting it'll be dubbed anime all the time :roll:


God, lets hope not ALL the time.
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Postby §_Akuma_§ » Wed Nov 06, 2002 7:28 pm

only 1 thing i can really say about such a thing......FUCKING EH!!!! hell i would support this idea in a flash man! i think its a great idea but like its already been said, the legel issues are a concern, but if theres even a spot of light for a chance to do this, i say fucking take it with all ya got!

if this "dream" were to come to reality, ill show my support for it. ^_^
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Re: Ah

Postby The Wired Knight » Wed Nov 06, 2002 7:42 pm

anneke wrote:I can't see them buying the rights to having the various music played on their station. Expecially when they first start up.

The anime wouldn't be as bad an issue, provided you use stuff they already have the rights to.

Anneke


This is where I see the problem arising. The anime would be the easiest it has ever been to show since the chances are that ADV can get the rights to that. However licensing the sheer amount of artists taht would be represented week by week would be staggering. ADV is a major company but I have little faith in them shelling out the amount of cash and legal papers necessary to get the rights to the music being displayed. Now if were were to instead use only AMVs taht featured unlicensed music (such as classical) or anime music then it would be far less difficult to get a show going. However the amount of AMVs that feature this is relativley small.
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Postby jbone » Wed Nov 06, 2002 11:26 pm

There can not be a show dedicated to AMVs. It would open immense legal floodgates, both anime-wise and music-wise.
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Postby FirestormXIII » Wed Nov 06, 2002 11:47 pm

My god, Jbone lives!

Nice to see you, man. Where've you been hiding? :)
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Postby Chaos Angel » Wed Nov 06, 2002 11:50 pm

Come to think of it, I tried to start an AMV show on my campusese student-run Tv station about a monthy and a half ago. I believe the programming manager said something along the lines that they can only air about 30 sec under fair use.

However, JBone, we are not talking fair use, we are talking about obtaining permission for the videos which, while being unholy amounts of difficult, is possible. Only airing withOUT permission would violate copyrights.
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Postby FirestormXIII » Thu Nov 07, 2002 12:40 am

I think everyone knows that it's possible to do, Chaos. But like you said, it would be unholy amounts of difficult. And I doubt the time (not to mention money) consumed on such an effort would hardly be seen as 'worth it' to those running the network.

It would be nice to see it happen. Sadly, it probably won't. :(
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Postby The Wired Knight » Thu Nov 07, 2002 12:48 pm

Thinking about it, the closest we could ever do (supposing it is true about that 30 sec. fair use policy) is a preview and review show. Basically show thirty seconds of maybe six or seven different AMVs and critique them. However I doubt people would be tuning in for reviews and not for the AMVs themsleves so this would undoubtedly be unsuccesful. HoweverI do feel that this is the closest we could possibly wish for.
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