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Postby MycathatesyouAMV » Sun Jan 06, 2008 11:56 am

Arashinome wrote:Yeah, virtualdub is virtualdub, its not avisynth. So neverend and mchy, you both got it wrong \:

MCHY, why would kev get banned simply for proving that you aren't ready to run a mep?


Also, I will ask you one more time to remove the dz studios advertisement from your sig area. If not I will have to ask a mod :\


Geez, instead of blabbing about it here why not just PM me. Fine, but your loss...

And Ghet, ya you can use notepad, but how the hell would you render the footage then, and btw that links broke.
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Postby Ghet » Sun Jan 06, 2008 11:59 am

Mchy wrote:
Arashinome wrote:Yeah, virtualdub is virtualdub, its not avisynth. So neverend and mchy, you both got it wrong \:

MCHY, why would kev get banned simply for proving that you aren't ready to run a mep?


Also, I will ask you one more time to remove the dz studios advertisement from your sig area. If not I will have to ask a mod :\


Geez, instead of blabbing about it here why not just PM me. Fine, but your loss...

And Ghet, ya you can use notepad, but how the hell would you render the footage then, and btw that links broke.


write the initial script in notepad
fix it in avsp
copypaste it to vdub

might not be the most efficient way, but it works for me (i dont do much intensive scripting though, cause i fail at it.)

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Postby Scott Green » Sun Jan 06, 2008 12:01 pm

Actually im not using vdub until I make a final encode in XviD (Huffy or Lagarith for meps)
Or I need vdub if my footage is not DVD

Mchy wrote:* Footage must be 640 * 480
* You must letter box your footage in vdub at (40,40)

And im really confused with that I mean what kev showed with his screenshots is right and
If you mean add 40,40 boarders to 16:9 footage you are wrong, because 640x360 is 16:9 and to get to 480 height you have to add 60,60 not 40,40

And talk about studio banners, wills someone make my studio one XD
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Postby MycathatesyouAMV » Sun Jan 06, 2008 12:07 pm

Ghet wrote:
Mchy wrote:
Arashinome wrote:Yeah, virtualdub is virtualdub, its not avisynth. So neverend and mchy, you both got it wrong \:

MCHY, why would kev get banned simply for proving that you aren't ready to run a mep?


Also, I will ask you one more time to remove the dz studios advertisement from your sig area. If not I will have to ask a mod :\


Geez, instead of blabbing about it here why not just PM me. Fine, but your loss...

And Ghet, ya you can use notepad, but how the hell would you render the footage then, and btw that links broke.


write the initial script in notepad
fix it in avsp
copypaste it to vdub

might not be the most efficient way, but it works for me (i dont do much intensive scripting though, cause i fail at it.)

also - liez


Ya but according to what you say you still need vdub O:

Hmmm Ya I might change around that letterbox thing somehow.
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Postby CastielTheFallen » Sun Jan 06, 2008 12:10 pm

That's not the point. VirtualDub is still Virtual dub, and it is for compressing your video. AviSynth is a separate program that works off of vdub, thus it isn't vdub \:

Anyway, that doesn't really matter, what matters is you apparently can't even use these programs enough to specify what you want clearly. Thus you aren't able to run a mep.
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Postby Ghet » Sun Jan 06, 2008 12:15 pm

just as a sidenote, you cant improve quality, you can add filters that hide the flaws of the footage by distorting it, but thats just if you wanna get technical -_-

and sure, you need vdub, but as joey said, its a completely different program, therefore you are



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Postby MycathatesyouAMV » Sun Jan 06, 2008 12:20 pm

Arashinome wrote:That's not the point. VirtualDub is still Virtual dub, and it is for compressing your video. AviSynth is a separate program that works off of vdub, thus it isn't vdub \:

Anyway, that doesn't really matter, what matters is you apparently can't even use these programs enough to specify what you want clearly. Thus you aren't able to run a mep.


Dude I know what Im talking about. Ive always known that they both work together. When I say that Vdub helps improve visual quality I mean that it is working with avisynth to do so, so basically they both do this because they must work with each other is what I mean.
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Postby Scott Green » Sun Jan 06, 2008 12:22 pm

Mchy wrote:Dude I know what Im talking about. Ive always known that they both work together. When I say that Vdub helps improve visual quality I mean that it is working with avisynth to do so, so basically they both do this because they must work with each other is what I mean.


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Postby CastielTheFallen » Sun Jan 06, 2008 12:25 pm

Scott Green wrote:
Mchy wrote:Dude I know what Im talking about. Ive always known that they both work together. When I say that Vdub helps improve visual quality I mean that it is working with avisynth to do so, so basically they both do this because they must work with each other is what I mean.


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Postby Kevmaster » Sun Jan 06, 2008 12:35 pm

Mchy, Virualdubbmod doesnt help you to enhace your quality, just like its already been said, it is avisynth that cleans up your footage, not vdub.

I don't even use Virtualdubmod anymore, just like scott said. I make my scripts, use the files in my software and render the lossless, which I compress to h264 mp4 and all that without using vdub (just the fact that might show you that vdub doesnt have anything to do with enhancing quality at all), btw it actually can decrease your visual quality (lets say you wanna make an xvid encode), you enter a lossless file and save as xvid, it didnt make the quality better, it made it worse, bleh anyway...


If you can't even get your technical specs right (which is especially noticable with the pics I showed), then how could you lead a mep?

And this is not the only thing which makes me know you arent capable of being a Leader.

I know you and just the way you act makes me know you dont have the right abilities to be a good leader.

Why wont you just learn it? People explained it again and again and again AND again AND AGAIN. And Then you still start crap like this BS here? Geezus, Are you trying to piss people off on purpose or what? You can't really be THAT dumb to think you could have went through with this.

End of story, I demand a Thread Lock.

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Re: Underoath Mep * Interest Gauge

Postby Bauzi » Sun Jan 06, 2008 1:14 pm

I skip now all the other posts and give you serious feedback (retards get of this thread! And I think he got what you want to tell him about VDM :| ):

Epical Zamora wrote:
Mchy wrote: * I will be purchasing all the songs in the itunes store for great quality.


Unless you buy plus they'll be useless. See DRM Protection.

hahaha

DRM Protection huh? It´s one of the easiest things to crack. Yeah seriously it´s damn easy to crack it with hardware and software LEGAL.

No, buying a song from itunes doesn´t equal quality. They still compress the files. If you want good quality, buy the cds or search the net for some .flac (free looseless audio codec) files.

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Band: Underoath

Who the hell is Underoath? I don´t know them, so why should you get my interesst for the MEP?
Alright... Tell something about the band, post a picture of them, what genre are they etc.

*google search*
Christian metal band?! EEEEEeeeee *runs away*

Ya I just wanna see if anyones interested in this. There a kewl band and the main point of the mep will be focusing on the more intense screaming parts of the song.

It´s a good start, but I still miss some infos

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* I will be making a good or decent mix.

Than this is an interesst gauge thread where you look for other editors. You won´t really need all the technical details if you ask me.

Yeah I suggest to make or try to make a mix. It might be harder than you think.

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* I know alot more about compressing, quality and vdub now so that should not be a problem.

eh... yes, but... well. If you say you can compress the whole MEP, alright. However people should clean up theire footage themselve. If they put in effects and stuff you screw them when you try to improve visual quality with some filters.

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* You must letter box your footage in vdub at (40,40)

Why? If the footage is 4:3 I don´t see a reason to letterbox it. The codec waists bitrate in the end for the black border. So yeah details please.

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* If your footage is smaller than the letterboxing than you must find a way to resize it so it works.

Do you mean: Smaller than 640x480? I don´t really get it.

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* Compression: Huffy or Lagarith

Alright

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* Codec: .avi

psst. .avi is a container for media streams, just like mp4, wmv, mkv...

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* One each anime twice

Is there a typo or something. I don´t get it too. So every anime has to be in the MEP twice or it CAN be in the MEP twice (unless they´re in the exception)?


I don´t think that this MEP failed. I just miss some details and this is more like a interesst gauge thread. Yeah I´m just more for interesst threads first and than comes a seperate thread with the mix and tracklists, but: hey, I think that it works this way too.
Don´t leason to these retards. Don´t give up :up:

Dude I know what Im talking about. Ive always known that they both work together. When I say that Vdub helps improve visual quality I mean that it is working with avisynth to do so, so basically they both do this because they must work with each other is what I mean.

In my honest eyes: A logic statement.
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Postby MycathatesyouAMV » Sun Jan 06, 2008 2:23 pm

Thanks for the feedback. Ya that is a typo, its actually suppost to say only each anime can be used up to 2 times and Underoath is alot similar to Silverstein and their kind of screamo and they are Christian metal band. Ya and I didnt think that doing that would be that hard to get around with DRM, but I guess Im gonna buy the CD's. And yes at first people will clean up their footage, I am also going to change around that letterbox rule. Thank you.

Edit: Updated some of details if anyone wants to check.
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Postby Emotive » Sun Jan 06, 2008 3:13 pm

:up: @ Bauzi
I don't think this is the avisynth-virtualdub relation discussion thread, so people gtfo, the thing Kev said about the letterboxing (when you told him he was spamming) was correct, but after that, everyone convincing Mchy that avisynth is what improves the quality rather than Vdub is not even related to the mep.

Well putting everything concerning the co-ordinator aside, just another mainstream mep with a mediocre (and christian metal? ew) band, so don't expect me to participate..
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Postby Ghet » Sun Jan 06, 2008 3:24 pm

Cast to Stone wrote:, just another mainstream mep with a mediocre (and christian metal? ew) band

i believe this a'calls fer a slayer MEP
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Postby Neverend » Sun Jan 06, 2008 3:29 pm

Arashinome wrote:Yeah, virtualdub is virtualdub, its not avisynth. So neverend and mchy, you both got it wrong \:



mfph.. :evil:
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