Project FMV 2: PR (canceled)

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Postby Copycat_Revolver » Fri Dec 21, 2007 1:02 pm

Actually for the sake of clarification, let me ask you:
First, how would you feel about having something like Persona 3 in the project? All of the cutscenes in that game are actual anime sequences. Do you think it would be too out of place with the rest of the tracks?
And on a similar issue, what about 16-bit video games and the like? (which usually had no actual cutscenes or cinematics) Would that be too similar to the VG projects?
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Postby Arkada » Fri Dec 21, 2007 6:28 pm

Second so soon? Great.

Ive been on Holiday for the past week and still am, (Im useing a crappy internet connection in the hotel that Im staying at). But Ill be home before Christmas and will be able to do more when I get there.

That is if I pass the Audition, ^-^;

Ill post up and PM in a few days.

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Postby dj_ultima_the_great » Sat Dec 22, 2007 4:41 pm

Copycat_Revolver wrote:First, how would you feel about having something like Persona 3 in the project?


Well, I'll admit that anime-styled stuff won't fit as well stylistically, but the fact is that it's a videogame and it wouldn't be fair to keep it out of the project. I mean, I'd have to also rule out equally great games like Chrono Trigger in that case. And what about Xenogears, which is half on the side of anime and half on the side of CGI? It'd be impossible to decide there. So I think I'll say yes to games with anime-styled cutscenes.

On a related note, someone mentioned h-games. Remember that it needs to be .org-able, so it'd have to be a clean segment in the first place. Beyond that, it's a "proof of concept" thing. If the segment was edited in such a way that it didn't look like a slideshow, I'd definitely be more in favor of including those in the project. But if I just get a bunch of stills of pretty anime girls with nothing to expand upon, I wouldn't even consider it.

For 16-bit games and other early generation stuff, it's another proof of concept thing. I'm not fully against it, but I'm just worried that if it's not manipulated in the right way, I'd end up with a slideshow segment there, too.

As for similarities to the VG Projects, I am concerned about that, but keep in mind that most of the segments in the VG Projects used stuff from old games, whereas it'd just be one or two segments in this. I know I can't fully prevent parallels between the two projects, and I don't want to boot someone's great idea just because of that.

And of course, once the song mix is made, you may find that none of those ideas work and you may resort to editing with a "regular" videogame anyway.

Hope that addresses everything.


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Postby inthesto » Sat Dec 22, 2007 8:04 pm

I call beta-testing.

Pre-emptive response to ultima's inevitable rejection: I CALLED IT.

EDIT: After giving it a bit of thought, I may be able to come up with something involving Dynasty Warriors. That whole "No VGM" thing is pretty devastating, though. :(

SECONDARY EDIT:

Copycat_Revolver wrote:I'm also tempted to make a video to something frighteningly old (Phantasy Star IV) but I don't know if I'll be able to join at all.


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Postby bluetrain » Tue Dec 25, 2007 9:20 am

Want me to be in this - School/Holiday season are officially coming to an end - meaning i ahve time - and lots of it.

But, i have let you down - quite drastically - so you can decide, but i have a 80% finished video (althought the song will change i'm sure i'll be able to hack-it-up a bit)
But i owe you.
I'ma buy you many-a-gift when i can afford it Jen.
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Postby dj_ultima_the_great » Sat Dec 29, 2007 5:19 pm

inthesto wrote:I call beta-testing.


You'll audition just like every other beta tester. : |

@bluetrain: everyone has a clean slate this time. You weren't the only one who dropped out and/or had to be dropped, and I don't harbor any ill will towards those that did. Just audition like everyone else and we'll see what happens.

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Wanted to address a few other things.

1. I've only gotten a handful of song submissions. That's going to make it really tough to make a song mix without delving into my own collection, and I'm not too hot on doing that. So please, if you have anything to send, now would be the good time to do it.

2. Some of the submissions I've been getting are, well... how do I describe this...? "Epic" would be the word, I think. I mean, I personally really like the songs that I'm being given, but some of them aren't exactly things that you can work easily into a MEP mix. I strongly encourage those who haven't to watch Reflections of Style 3, because that's the style of music I'm aiming for. It's stuff that isn't mainstream, but has enough of that kind of sound that makes songs somewhat easier to mix together.

3. Please try to avoid giving me songs that were featured in the MEPs I linked. I wouldn't mind using one or so songs that were in other great MEPs, but the thing is that those songs are already associated with great segments in peoples' minds. I don't particularly want to be known as the MEP that tried to duplicate Euphoria, y'know?

4. If you're thinking of working with any particular games, please try to rip/capture them first before you sign up with them. It doesn't take that long to try it out, and there are a number of guides on the site that spell out how to do that. If I pick you for the project, and you realize afterwards that your game doesn't really work, you can, of course, change games, just so long as they abide by the rules I set.

I think that's everything.


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Postby Arkada » Sat Dec 29, 2007 5:41 pm

dj_ultima_the_great wrote:Some of the submissions I've been getting are, well... how do I describe this...? "Epic" would be the word, I think.


That just means that we have created an "Epic" MEP before anyone has even started editing. :D

But anyways, I can dive back into my collection if you want, and try and find something that is less epic and more like Reflections of Style 3, although I stand by my original submission.
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Postby dj_ultima_the_great » Tue Jan 08, 2008 10:13 pm

Well, I'm no Takefuji, but I think I've come up with a mix that most people can agree with. Before I even began, I already knew what kind of sound I wanted for each song in this project. That's what made asking for submissions somewhat difficult, because everyone had a different idea of what they wanted to edit to and what they thought belonged in a MEP.

If your song didn't appear in the mix, it's for one of two reasons:
1. I already covered that style of song with a different piece.
2. It didn't mix well with the rest of the songs.

As I said before, for people who did submit, I personally really enjoyed most of the songs that were given to me, but of course, this mix isn't about my preference. It's about what I think people can edit to most easily and what will give a good creative outlet for people's unique styles. There are some tracks for action editors, some tracks for people who want more meaningful stories in their segments, and at least one song just for... different editing. I hope I've given enough diversity without compromising the flow of the mix.

I'm not posting track divisions until I've gotten a general consensus that this mix is okay with most people, so for now just get a general idea of what it feels like and on Thursday I'll probably go ahead and post the tracks so people can start auditioning.

http://www.aieli-ileia.com/djultima/FMV2MusicBeta.mp3

Songs are in this order:
Good Charlotte - "A New Beginning"
Lostprophets - "Last Train Home" (just the last few seconds for leading into the next track)
Lostprophets - "Make a Move"
Ladytron - "Destroy Everything You Touch"
Sunchase feat. Yana Kay - "Remember Me (Remix)"
Filter - "Take a Picture"
Explosions in the Sky - "The Only Moment We Were Alone"

Many thanks to Ileia for loaning her server space to me. <3

Hope you folks like it.


- Jen
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Postby Kevmaster » Wed Jan 09, 2008 6:25 am

I liked this Mix =O

It had a lot variaty, the song transitions sound good and I even like all of the songs in the mix =P

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Postby Aeri » Wed Jan 09, 2008 7:34 am

Good job on the mix; it sounds great!
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Postby omegaevolution » Wed Jan 09, 2008 10:02 am

liked more the first half of the mix than the second one to be honest

but overall the mixing is great :D, good job :up:
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Postby masterGT » Wed Jan 09, 2008 12:13 pm

I like the mix as well!
The transitions sound very well, except the second one at 00:52. There is a short pause (this is probably because of ripping - the program made a pause between the 2 tracks), you should get rid of this, trying to make the transition as smooth as on the CD.
Anyway it's a nice composition of fast and - more or less - slow tracks.
Great job :up:
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Postby Arkada » Wed Jan 09, 2008 5:43 pm

Personally I don't care for the lyrics of some tracks, however musicly I really enjoy the mix. Found the cut at 12:27 to be the most noticeable one, but thats probability because of the instrument change.

Bravo DJ
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Postby Scott Green » Sat Jan 12, 2008 5:14 am

Mix sounds great O:
Never imagined that my track actually would show up in it :sweat:
I already see some editors having problems with it :shock:
Anyway like Arkada said "Found the cut at 12:27 to be the most noticeable one"
Personally I think the mix is ready for editing =)
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Postby Serv0 » Sat Jan 12, 2008 11:00 pm

Forget about altering the mix. Just give the scottgreen light.
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