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Probably Easy Effect I'm Having Trouble With

Postby EleventhAkatsuki » Thu Oct 04, 2007 9:34 pm

Hey guys, on Sony Vegas, how do you do that thing (I know, specific, right?) where the clips flash in time to the music? I can get it to flicker white, but that's an option to make the video look old-style, I don't know how to do the "black flash" effect in time to the beat. You all know what I'm taking about, right?
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Postby prYzm » Thu Oct 04, 2007 10:06 pm

ummm. i assume u just mean where the screen blanks out for like 1-3 frames. if it is, theres 2 diff ways u can do it. 1 is to put 2 copies of ur clip over top of each other then crop off the end of one clip so that it ends slightly before the start of another..... bad explanation. k look at it this way

for arguments sake im assuming ur using 25 fps (PAL) footage as it has a generic 25 frames and is easier to explain, if its in 29.97(NTSC) fps the concept is exactly the same but i cbf doing the math

your clip goes from 0:25:15 - 0:26:15, a 1 second clip. put 2 copies down in the same place (on diff layers or same layer it doesnt matter). ur beat sound is at 0:26:00 so since u have 2 exact copies of the same clip drag one so it goes from 0:25:15 - 0:25:24 and then drag the start of the second clip so that it goes from 0:26:01 - 0:26:15 this created a 1 frame gap in ur image so that for 1/25th of a second the screen will blank creating that 'flicker' effect that ppl use with beats.

the other option is to go into paint, create a black screen. save ur file (for the purpose of just a black screen it doesnt matter what u save it as, if ur after something that only covers part of it so u can still use stuff in the background, go to my question about importing vegas images that rapture so kindly answered)

so u have a .jpg of a black screen (oh ya make sure u set ur image size to whatever ur video footage is, depending on what u made ur clip sizes to be.)
go to the explorer tab in vegas find where u saved it. should be a yourimage.jpg file there, right click on it and say add to project media. then when u select it under ur project media, add it to the layer ABOVE whatever ur trying to flash it on, eg ur audio may be on layer one then ur video is on layer 2. create another layer and put it between, so u now have blank layer 2 video is layer 3.

go to ur 0:26:00 mark where the beat is. and put ur 'black picture' there it will create a very long bar, i think when u put images into vegas the default time length for them is 5 seconds (not sure if thats exactly right but somewhere about there) just crop ur image down to 1 frame (or 3 or w/e depending on how long u want it blanked).

after that if u decide even tho u want the screen to 'black flash' as u call it for a beat but u still want to be able to see ur image, on ur black screen u can drag the opacity down to like 75% then u can still just see ur image in the background but u still get the 'black' effect of the screen darkening. its really up to u how u do it, both methods work, personally i prefer inputting an image from paint or adobe, because then u can always copy and paste it if u have like 3 beats in a row. much easier to work with in the long run.
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Postby NS » Thu Oct 04, 2007 10:22 pm

Quickly fade to black in one clip and Fade in from black on the one afetr wards... don't do it across the whole clip.. just pretty quickly.
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Postby Kevmaster » Fri Oct 05, 2007 6:59 am

Use Black Media Generator?
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Postby EleventhAkatsuki » Thu Oct 11, 2007 2:27 pm

How do you do the effect at 0:06-0:16 in this AMV?

And the effects at 1:28 as well.
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Postby JaddziaDax » Thu Oct 11, 2007 3:13 pm

don't you mean this video?

and the answer is masking (frame by frame editing) and a lot of patience :P
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Postby EleventhAkatsuki » Thu Oct 11, 2007 5:26 pm

JaddziaDax wrote:don't you mean this video?

and the answer is masking (frame by frame editing) and a lot of patience :P


Could you run me through exactly how to do that? Not quite sure I get it that well...
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Postby BasharOfTheAges » Thu Oct 11, 2007 6:01 pm

EleventhAkatsuki wrote:
JaddziaDax wrote:don't you mean this video?

and the answer is masking (frame by frame editing) and a lot of patience :P


Could you run me through exactly how to do that? Not quite sure I get it that well...


JaddziaDax wrote:"Masking" or "Rotoscoping" is the term youre looking for

this is how you do it in vegas:

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pretty much you just have to be more precise with the anchors and you will have the characters cut out

you can also do it with photoshop... and after effects... but i dont have screencaps for them O:

and for the lipsync you combo that with this
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Postby JaddziaDax » Thu Oct 11, 2007 6:13 pm

hahahahahahha

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thanks you made my day XD
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Postby BasharOfTheAges » Thu Oct 11, 2007 7:02 pm

JaddziaDax wrote:hahahahahahha

zomg
thanks you made my day XD

You have the amazing powers to answer questions vicariously.
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Postby EleventhAkatsuki » Thu Oct 11, 2007 7:23 pm

Mine doesn't have the mask option. Could this be because I'm using a trial version?
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Postby Rave_Epic » Fri Oct 12, 2007 6:53 am

Hmm..to get to Event Pan/Crop, right click the clip you're wanting and it's on the list.

Have you tried that, Akatsuki?
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Postby Rave_Epic » Fri Oct 12, 2007 6:59 am

Damn no edit button.

Thanks for the tip on how to set the "Mode." I've been wanting to figure that out for awhile now and I guess I never thought to click it. :up:
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Postby Kevmaster » Fri Oct 12, 2007 7:04 am

I heard "sony vegas Movie Studio" doesn't have the same pan/cropping stuff.

YOu might have that Version?

I am not sure if you can actually do maksing with it, someone told me it wasn't possible, someone else told me there is just a different way to do it, but I have no clue since I never really cared about that version of Vegss because it seems a lot more limiting than the normal version-
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Postby JaddziaDax » Fri Oct 12, 2007 9:48 am

the "Movie Studio" version does not have the masking option...

you could export the frames you want to mask as an image sequence (this can be done in Virtualdub Mod, but I think that Vegas has that option somewhere, I've just never used it, so I'm not sure if it's there or where to find it. Virtualdub Mod is free though.)

anyways export as an image sequence, and take each image and open them in THE GIMP (free) or Photoshop. Cut out the character using the pen tool (or the lasso if you are too lazy to use the pen tool - not recommended though)... be sure to leave the background transparent save as .png or .gif (not recommended) or .psd (which is what I recommend) then import all the frames back into Vegas, and retime them down to a single frame each.

its a lot longer than using the in-program-masking tool but it works
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