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Postby JaddziaDax » Sat Sep 08, 2007 10:02 am

L'arc~en~ciel wrote:http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y45/Ryoshimaru/Other/Vegas1.jpg

There is a picture of the set up. On this one, as it plays, it zooms out.


do you want it to zoom out?
if no - then delete the second diamond - move the cursor back to the first diamond and make adjustments how you want them from there
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Postby JazzyDJ » Wed Sep 26, 2007 2:06 am

I have a question: Can a newer version of vegas open/load a saved file (considering you have all the same footage) that was created by a previous/older version of vegas?

I ask because I am in the middle of a project on Vegas 5.0 but I just upgraded my machine and got 7.0 with it.
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Postby JaddziaDax » Wed Sep 26, 2007 8:39 am

it should be able to work i know that 5.0 could open 4.0 files but i havent bothered since then...

its just 4.0 could not open 5.0 files.
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Postby taifunbrowser » Thu Sep 27, 2007 9:46 pm

(Thanks to other's disagreement with my former beliefs on how to set up a good quality vegas project, I finally realized I was doing it wrong. Here's the right way.)

Addition: How to use Best quality render mode without bringing about frame blending of doom!

  1. In project properties:
    • Render mode: Best
    • Field order: none (Progressive)
    • Deinterlace mode: Don't Deinterlace
  2. In the preview window, preview in Preview (auto).
  3. Edit.
  4. Whenever you want to export, you have to make sure that every video event has "disable resample" set. So, highlight all video events (this is tricky and time consuming, I found that CTRL+A and then manually deselecting (ctrl+click) the audio events I could select all video). Make sure that you have ONLY video selected. Go to edit (top bar) > switches > click "Disable Resample". This is importante!
  5. then render to avi (always, vegas just isn't good with anything else - if you want others, I reccomend debugmode's frameserver out of vegas - it's made of win) and go to custom...
    • In the first tab, choose best if it's not selected.
    • In the second tab, make sure it says again none (progressive) frame order and anything else before you may see.


If you did it right, you should get all the benefits of Good and Best export mode (the most notable being higher quality resizes in track motion), without the temporal smoothing they like to slap on (what I found was that this was actually a lame attempt at trying to deinterlace - the "disable resample" here is really the crucial change).

So, hopefully the rest of you can make use of this knowledge!
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Postby gandy » Thu Nov 08, 2007 11:15 pm

OOoookay, I just read through all 22 pages. :shock: And I'm sure I'm going to make myself look like an absolute idiot with the questions I'm about to ask. However I am one, so it's alright.

First question: When I go to the pan/crop feature on some clips I accidently seemed to have switched it to this part where it says position/path/workplace. I can not for the life of me, despite clicking on every button I can find, get it to change back to the one where it says position/rotation/keyframe interpolation/source/workspace. I'm assuming there's an incredibly easy answer to this question, so I implore you to be patient and read the first paragraph I wrote.

Second question: No matter how much I move down the playback the clip does not seem to slow down/get longer. The clip I'm using is sort of a still clip though...so I suppose it could just be that Vegas slows the clip without making it longer? I'm used to WMM, so yeah...used to it getting double the length when you slow it down.

Third question: Okay, because I can't get the pan/crop thing to change back -_-; I haven't been able to fool around with the layering footage much. But what I have tried, I can't seem to figure out how to have the movies where I need them. I don't know if I just need to mess around with them more though, that's probably it.

Oh, and thanks so much for doing this Ladymercury!!!

Hey, at least I didn't ask, how come my avi footage won't work?!?!?!?! :wink:
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Postby prYzm » Fri Nov 09, 2007 1:18 am

First question: When I go to the pan/crop feature on some clips I accidently seemed to have switched it to this part where it says position/path/workplace. I can not for the life of me, despite clicking on every button I can find, get it to change back to the one where it says position/rotation/keyframe interpolation/source/workspace. I'm assuming there's an incredibly easy answer to this question, so I implore you to be patient and read the first paragraph I wrote.
someone else might be able to answer, but id require a screenshot to know what u mean. draw nice pretty circles if u can =D

Second question: No matter how much I move down the playback the clip does not seem to slow down/get longer. The clip I'm using is sort of a still clip though...so I suppose it could just be that Vegas slows the clip without making it longer? I'm used to WMM, so yeah...used to it getting double the length when you slow it down.

when u slow down videos in vegas it doesnt automatically lengthen them (or mine doesnt) the video slows down, so what u do is grab the right hand side of ur clip(on ur timeline) and drag it out. u know if ur repeating a clip because a little yellow triangle will appear on the top of the clip.


Third question: Okay, because I can't get the pan/crop thing to change back -_-; I haven't been able to fool around with the layering footage much. But what I have tried, I can't seem to figure out how to have the movies where I need them. I don't know if I just need to mess around with them more though, that's probably it.


not quite sure if this is what u mean, but to create a new layer go to the left hand side of ur timelines, there should be one(or more) lines of audio one(or more) lines of video, to create another one of either just right click in the empty space below ur tracks and go 'insert video track' this creates a new track that u can play around with for whatever u happen to need it for.
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Postby gandy » Fri Nov 09, 2007 10:53 am

Yay, I taught myself how to put up images!

But here's a screenshot that applies to my first question (And I already got rid of the subs, don't worry about that):
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As for the second question, thanks for the answer. :D

And my third question, I know how to make the layers. My problem is I want to make four screens on the one screen at once...like so:
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...but I can't figure out how to do so.

Side note: Pictures by me, my brother, and two of my friends. You might find them entertaining. Drawn on messenger, so you can really appreciate their artistic beauty. Also, the one in the lower left is my brother's rendition of a cow.

Thanks so much!
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Postby JaddziaDax » Fri Nov 09, 2007 11:49 am

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and for the other one create 4 layers, pan them out till they are the size you want and place them where you want putting each video on each layer..

I'll make a cap if you need it.
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Postby JaddziaDax » Fri Nov 09, 2007 11:52 am

or change the "preset" back to "(untitled)"
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Postby gandy » Sat Nov 10, 2007 10:28 pm

Hmm, the picture isn't working. I tried changing the preset, but it wouldn't change either.

Yeah, a pic of what you mean about making them the right size would be very helpful, if it wouldn't be too much trouble.

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Postby prYzm » Tue Nov 13, 2007 8:32 pm

answering both of ur questions, the pic shows how in the pan crop u can resize the image then move ur focus around i n the frame

the red circle on the image is aorund the mask/position. the one u want is ur 'position' the one u have by accident is 'mask' just select the right one.

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Postby Vivaldi » Wed Nov 14, 2007 5:59 pm

NerdStrudel wrote:Jesus, Let me re-type that, I can abrely understand it myself.


You have to move the anchors with the character as it goes. So each frame keyed, you need to move around the anchors to stay with the character, It's a rather tedious task (moving masks) Whic his why I try to avoid it XD.

I know this is a quote from a long time ago, but it still applies for me.

I'm basicly having the same problem, I've masked every single frame with a new mask, and it looks fine until it's rendered, then it's like there's a weird delay, so do you mean I have to use the same mask, but just move it around somehow?
sorry I didn't understad you. :oops:
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Postby prYzm » Wed Nov 14, 2007 6:25 pm

@viva - honestly it shouldnt matter, what nerd meant is that u can moove the anchors frame to frame to cut down on the time it takes to mask them. doing it from scratch or moving existing anchors will produce the same results however u feel comfortable doing it. (i still prefer to do all my masking in photoshop but not everyone does =D). u would have to be more specific with what ur problem is, cause the masking itself can be done multiple ways all to the same effect.
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Postby gandy » Thu Nov 15, 2007 8:40 am

Yay, it worked, thanks so much!!!
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Postby Ghet » Thu Nov 15, 2007 8:11 pm

vivaldiscool wrote:I know this is a quote from a long time ago, but it still applies for me.

I'm basicly having the same problem, I've masked every single frame with a new mask, and it looks fine until it's rendered, then it's like there's a weird delay, so do you mean I have to use the same mask, but just move it around somehow?
sorry I didn't understad you. :oops:

i really dont know how to describe this in words - so ill post up a Screencap -

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O.o why is it so huge?
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