New Project Settings in Premiere CS3

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New Project Settings in Premiere CS3

Postby MadScientist » Sat Sep 22, 2007 2:08 pm

I am getting ready to start a new project in Premiere CS3. I have read through the following guides.
http://www.animemusicvideos.org/guides/ ... 24fps.html
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http://www.animemusicvideos.org/guides/ ... setup.html

My problem is my footage is at 23.976fps and the guide does not seem to cover CS3, and there doesn't seem to be any posts in the forum regarding CS3 and 23.976fps. So is the problem fixed with CS3 that seemed to plague earlier versions of Premiere? Here are screenshots of the settings I was going to use. With these settings can I keep my footage at 23.976? Or is it still a good idea to convert it to 24fps?

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Since the timebase setting says 23.976, i figure maybe premiere pro cs3 actually supports it now. But then I look at the Display format option and its still 24fps Timecode. Any help would be appreciated.

Also, from what you see here, is there any other settings I should change?
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Postby Rapture** » Sat Sep 22, 2007 2:27 pm

I'll try to answer this...

Since display format is 24FPS,then it doesn't mean that video will be in 24FPS. It just shows that timeline will be displayed in 24FPS.

Timebase - if you're allowed to keep 23.976FPS,then do so. If by any chance you afraid that you won't be able to keep 23.976FPS,just make a try - throw in a picture or something,and render it. Then just throw it into GSpot,and check what's the FPS.
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Postby MadScientist » Sat Sep 22, 2007 4:41 pm

Rapture** wrote:I'll try to answer this...

Since display format is 24FPS,then it doesn't mean that video will be in 24FPS. It just shows that timeline will be displayed in 24FPS.

Timebase - if you're allowed to keep 23.976FPS,then do so. If by any chance you afraid that you won't be able to keep 23.976FPS,just make a try - throw in a picture or something,and render it. Then just throw it into GSpot,and check what's the FPS.


Ah yeah, A quick test render would work great to tell me what fps its rendering at. I can't believe I didnt think to try that.
By the way, the results were 23.98fps. So if I am understanding correctly, that is ok right? There shouldnt be any audio synch issues with that?
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Postby Pwolf » Sat Sep 22, 2007 4:44 pm

no thats not ok... and i wonder why Adobe STILL hasn't fixed 23.976 in premiere?

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Postby MadScientist » Sat Sep 22, 2007 4:46 pm

Um, sorry, I am an idiot. I was looking at the properties in media player. In Gspot it reads 23.976. So I should be good.
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Postby Rapture** » Sat Sep 22, 2007 5:08 pm

vinylvengeance wrote:Um, sorry, I am an idiot. I was looking at the properties in media player. In Gspot it reads 23.976. So I should be good.


If that's the result you wanted,then it is ok.
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Postby MadScientist » Sat Sep 22, 2007 5:12 pm

Yeah I would rather edit in progressive and only convert the final product to 29.97 later if I need to.
Thanks for the help.
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Postby Rapture** » Sat Sep 22, 2007 5:30 pm

vinylvengeance wrote:Yeah I would rather edit in progressive and only convert the final product to 29.97 later if I need to.
Thanks for the help.


Now that would REALLY fuck up all your video. If you're planning to have your final video in 29.97 FPS,then I'm afraid you'll have to convert all of your footage into 29.97 before editing. And change project setting of course.
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Postby Scintilla » Sat Sep 22, 2007 5:51 pm

You will appreciate that VinylVengeance said "if I need to".

Who says s/he can't export the master at 23.976, then make a version that's telecined to 29.97 if some convention requires it?
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Postby MadScientist » Sat Sep 22, 2007 6:08 pm

Scintilla wrote:You will appreciate that VinylVengeance said "if I need to".

Who says s/he can't export the master at 23.976, then make a version that's telecined to 29.97 if some convention requires it?


Thats what I was going to do. Seeing as how most conventions accept stuff in 23.976, I would rather keep it progressive and telecine it later if I absolutely need to.
Unless I have read something wrong, the guides and other posts here tend to lean toward sticking to progressive. Or am I wrong? This is going to be a fast paced action video, so I want to keep the footage as clean as possible.
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Postby Rapture** » Sun Sep 23, 2007 4:12 am

Scintilla wrote:Who says s/he can't export the master at 23.976, then make a version that's telecined to 29.97 if some convention requires it?


Uh,wait. Damn,something was wrong with me yesterday for sure (first that Yaoi vid,now this o.O).

I thought that he/she wanted to work with IVTC footage in project set for NTSC fps. That would really fuck it up.

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