ANIME... not cartoon...

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Postby Tsuji Mania » Thu Oct 24, 2002 11:04 am

Throws blessings on mroni and engar.

With a few qualifers.

Lets put the man who can bend metal bars and the man who can destroy planets with a single blow into a fight.. LOL.


That is my initial opinion as well because that is the Superman everyone knows. HOWEVER, apparently there's a whole bunch of transformations and powerups he received as well and I have NO idea what is going on in the series so:

1. I still don't give a shyt about crossover
2. I don't know enough if I did.

mroni-

And Dragon Ball/Z/GT had 508 episodes.
The longest running cartoon EVER is Sazae san. Currently 1,600 episodes.
Next is Doraemon.
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Postby Clara Yuri Asaki » Thu Oct 24, 2002 2:27 pm

Funny Anime aren't Cartoons, because a Cartoon is not just something that is Animated and Funny!
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Postby OrenTheSaiyan » Thu Oct 24, 2002 2:40 pm

:shock: WHAT!?
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Postby Clara Yuri Asaki » Thu Oct 24, 2002 2:43 pm

There are many things that Funny Anime has that Cartoon doesn't, and there are things that Cartoons have that Funny Anime don't.

They just are not the same. It's very obvious if you actually watch them.
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Postby Tsuji Mania » Thu Oct 24, 2002 4:40 pm

there are things that Cartoons have that Funny Anime don't.


For example? See Clara, I can tell you're a Democrat. You keep SAYING that Cartoons are so different. But you have yet to offer any proof, which I don't blame you for because if you tried to it would be a complete lie since they are the same thing. So you could at least do the noble thing and submit to the fact that you're nothing but a nerd who enjoys to watch animation from Japan, some of which happen to be cartoons.

But you're never going to do that because you want a glimmer of hope that reassures you that you have a life, so I've stopped arguing and just like to point out your sophomoric actions and weightless arguments.
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Postby Clara Yuri Asaki » Thu Oct 24, 2002 5:12 pm

What proof do I need that you have already not witnessed?

If you've actually watched both Anime and Cartoons, you know that they are different. It's obvious. I suppose you would like me to point out with facts and edvidince that the sky is blue too, huh?
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Postby Mroni » Thu Oct 24, 2002 5:18 pm

Clara-Thats not entirely true. lots of childrens anime is at about the same level some of the stupider american stuff is at. I am not going to diss american animation lets just see that american stuff aimed at an audience besides children is few(but growing) and far between. I like the fact that adult References have crept back into cartoons since the 90s making some excellent stuff. Examples would be The animaniacs,Beetle juice and Eek the cat.


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Postby Clara Yuri Asaki » Thu Oct 24, 2002 5:24 pm

I'm a bit confused on what that has to do with what I said......

I know that "Cartoons" does not mean "Just for Kids". Some are for all ages, some for kids, some for teens, some for adults. And Anime does that too. Of course, so does all media. (Music, movies, books....)

But still, Anime and Cartoons are different. They have very different Styles of being drawn. They have very differents ways of showing the same situation. They have very different symbols and symbolic references. They are just too many different things about them to say that they are the same. They have two different names for a reason. There's no point in saying that one can be the other.
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Postby SSJVegita0609 » Thu Oct 24, 2002 5:33 pm

Cartoons and Anime are both animations. All animations are different. It's that simple. It's like saying all paintings are the same, its just not true (although some may be similar).
The best effects are the ones you don't notice.
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Postby Clara Yuri Asaki » Thu Oct 24, 2002 5:36 pm

Yeah! That's what I've been saying! ^_^
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Postby Angel_Killer_777 » Thu Oct 24, 2002 5:39 pm

Clara, no offence, but you are blinded by your own fandom.
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Postby Clara Yuri Asaki » Thu Oct 24, 2002 5:43 pm

On contrary, I see the truth very well.

What have I said that made you believe that I was blinded?
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Postby Angel_Killer_777 » Thu Oct 24, 2002 7:01 pm

You seem to be holding anime up on some kinda of pedistal. Talking about how special it is, every thing. It's not really that different from american cartoons.
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Postby Anime Jedi » Thu Oct 24, 2002 7:15 pm

I starting to get afraid that instead of an argument about the arts, it has been getting more along the line of against the fans. Let's leave the people who like the stuff alone, and focus on WHAT they like. :D
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Postby Tsuji Mania » Fri Oct 25, 2002 1:09 am

It is 2 AM. Normally I would be outside running around like a jackass. But no, this is the eve of my Chemistry exam. Actually I was studying. And then, my roommate called me over to his computer to look at your replies. I think I broke my assbone laughing. I have laughed my ass off. In fact I am in the process of sending a campus wide e-mail in request for a new ass. Props to Oren for a most impressive response that I believe best sums up my feelings on that.

because a Cartoon is not just something that is Animated and Funny!


That is by far one of the funnier things I have ever read in my lifetime. I have posted it on my dorm room door and will continue to laugh all subsequent asses I may receive clear off, every morning when I see it.

If you've actually watched both Anime and Cartoons, you know that they are different. It's obvious. I suppose you would like me to point out with facts and edvidince that the sky is blue too, huh?


Yes I would like you to. I'm begging you to, just so that I can point out how incorrect they will be. Refusal to do so (for the 19th page in a row or so it seems) just seems to further incriminate you.

I'm sure you are of course Clara that in 1963 when Tetsuwan Atomu debuted from Mushi Studios founded by the late Osamu Tezuka, father of Japanese animation and "God of Anime", that he made no bomnes about his influence from Disney, and his desire to emulate the work that Disney produced, while making some changes. Compare Tetsuwan or Leo or Kennichi to any Disney character and you are bound to see a resemblance. They stem from the same place. Animations from Japan were born from that which emerged in the United States. If you want to continue to hold your false believe, I have no problem with that....well actually I do...but I have a seemingly infinite greater knowledge on the history of this particular topic, and I am not inferring in ANY way that this makes me a better person, in fact it simply means that I've wasted more of my life than you have. But what it does do is give me a helluva lot of ammo to bat down many sweeping generalizations, such as "anime are not cartoons".

So I'll ask again. Why are they different?

Because it is drawn differently? Because it is inferior in cel-count and polish? Because the voice-acting isn't usually up to par with the Japanese counterpart? Because it is "deeper"? If those are your reasons they're purely cosmetic surface, and actually...opinion, nothing more.

Someone mentioned it before. You can't battle with opinions or those who won't accept fact.

Which is why I'm having so much fun with this :D
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