Anime is porn or isn't it?!

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Postby Anime Jedi » Tue Oct 22, 2002 6:25 pm

battousai_the_manslayer wrote:it doesn't help that in *every* store I've seen anime in they place it right next to the "adult videos"... That drives me crazy.

Actually, I've only seen that happen once. Most of the time, it's mixed within the Sci-Fi section.
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Postby TheRealNeoHentaiMaster » Tue Oct 22, 2002 11:07 pm

akatoro wrote:The head-admin of my mud actually accused anime/manga for being hentai/porn just now and I came to think of this topic =D

I quoted what some of you guys said and he said he would watch Neon Genesis Evangelion, Berserk and Excel Saga.

Maybe he's a new follower of japan!


Umm, I would not reccomend those to someone going into anime with a bad impression already. Those may just back up the assumptions he already has. Eva has tons of sexual over tones. Berserk has a lot of homo over tones( Dont get me wrong, I like berserk, but your boss is gonna be looking for stuff to back up his beleifs) and Excel, well, I dont know, I love that show but its got a really dark and twisted sense of humor and I wouldnt bet on your boss appretiating that kind of humor.
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Postby Rini210 » Wed Oct 23, 2002 5:12 pm

battousai_the_manslayer wrote:it doesn't help that in *every* store I've seen anime in they place it right next to the "adult videos"... That drives me crazy.


I was in Blockbuster, which by me has some pretty spiffy anime's in it (first place where I got to see Angel Sanctuary, Ranma 1/2, and Princess Monokee. Go Blockbuster) and it was right next to the adult videos (which had a lot of porn-ish stuff in it, judging by the titles.) and some people were looking at me funny like "Eww, that little girl is going to watch some cartoon porn. That's sick!" I was all pissed off, but didn't say anything in fear of getting banned from Blockbuster.
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not porn...

Postby Ashura2002 » Wed Oct 23, 2002 5:24 pm

show them almost ANY miyazaki film.



oh, and battousai...(your end quote) ....go elf princess rane! :D
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Postby Drawshot » Wed Oct 23, 2002 6:20 pm

I'd force them to watch Graveyard of the Fireflies...
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Postby mexicanjunior » Wed Oct 23, 2002 6:27 pm

Drawshot wrote:I'd force them to watch Graveyard of the Fireflies...


When did the "yard" get added? :lol:
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Postby Drawshot » Wed Oct 23, 2002 6:31 pm

mexicanjunior wrote:When did the "yard" get added? :lol:

oh... oops :oops:
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Postby Sushi2 » Thu Oct 24, 2002 8:54 am

I haven't had many arguments that anime is porn...wait maybe once or twice. However like all forms of media sometimes here are just thrown in to appeal to a wider audience, frankly a whole load of films and anime has probably little need for nude scenes,etc. to be shown....and yet they are in.
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Postby Anime Jedi » Thu Oct 24, 2002 7:36 pm

I don't think it's the argument that anime is porn that comes up a lot. It's that anime is cartoon porn. I get that a lot from people. I like listening to their points, then sorta laugh to the side. This way they don't hear me. :twisted:
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Postby Gatsthedarksword » Thu Oct 24, 2002 9:03 pm

oh yeah i get alot of "cartoon porn" from people who don't watch anime. i one mentioned that anime has rape in it during one of my classes in school during casual conversation you know i didn't raise my hand and adress the whole class but the people sitting next to me pulled that "ewwwww. ok man whatever floats your boat but it's nasty to get off watching pictures of cartoon girls having sex" ok now that is ofencive to me cause while i have watched hentai i'm not some freak who only gets off to drawings of sex. but i say this and i also say "it's not for the purpose of jerking off, it's a rape scene!" and of course "sure watever" was the responce. and i'm sure these people had some picture in thier mind of like spongebob and sandy doing something freaky. and thats just wrong. so who's more perverse? the guy who watches it and makes no big deal out of it cause sex is not something to be uptite or wierd about. or the people who when they hear the word sex imediatly get that sort of wierd atitude and just start thinking dirty thoughts, you know?
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Postby Anime Jedi » Thu Oct 24, 2002 9:20 pm

Looks like there are people who believe this rumour all over the place. I get the exact same. :(

Gatsthedarksword wrote:so who's more perverse? the guy who watches it and makes no big deal out of it cause sex is not something to be uptite or wierd about. or the people who when they hear the word sex imediatly get that sort of wierd atitude and just start thinking dirty thoughts, you know?

I use the same idea for people that call things immature. Such as... anime (Well of course! What else? Anime just seems to be the target of much prejudice :cry: ). Anyways, I just tell them: "What's more immature? The idea being called immature, or the person who calls it immature?" I hope you know what side I'm on. :wink:
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Postby Gatsthedarksword » Thu Oct 24, 2002 11:33 pm

Anime Jedi wrote: "What's more immature? The idea being called immature, or the person who calls it immature?" I hope you know what side I'm on. :wink:


i wouldn't explain it like that if i were you but i know what you mean, it does seem like people want to just jusge something as "non-christian" or unethical and making it a topic you can't talk about like rape. so people like us who have seen it alot and always with a negative conotation and are comfortable with discusing it and other things like that say for instence sex. anime guys talk about sex calmly, and yeah they say bieng ok and calm with things like rape is what causes it, well some people say that. and i always tell them that from watching anime i learned that rape is one of the worse things i the world and any guy willing to do it deserves to die. you know? i don't seem to get that same stuff back from anime people, well my best friends agree with it but i hear alot of people who disbelieve that and don't strongly disagree with rape. i can't imagine that mind set but does anyone else who watch anime find that they are taught good morals by it rather than veing "desensitised and super violent behavior" cause they like to blame those school shootings on this stuff but i must say i learned the oposite from all the "violent images" i been watching since i was about 10. anyway i probably got way off topis and ranted my way into next week but i feel really strongly about this so i tend to get into it when it comes up
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Postby Sushi2 » Fri Oct 25, 2002 6:32 am

Gatsthedarksword I can't believe you just said Sponge Bob and Sandy....*shudder* horrible mental image. DAMN YOU!


However I would have to agree with you though, I don't know if its from anime but I have strangely developed high morals.......I hate my conscience..never lets me do anything wrong......well without feeling guilty and having to correct my mistakes.

What people fail to realise is that anime, like films have different genres and each film can differ greatly from others.

Oh and they want to talk about rape scenes try mentioning Clockwork Orange, and if they can defend rape neccessary in that...you can say in most cases it is neccessary in anime to depict something.
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Postby Anime Jedi » Fri Oct 25, 2002 8:10 am

Gatsthedarksword wrote:i wouldn't explain it like that if i were you but i know what you mean

Yah, I've been having some trouble wording it. I use to have the perfect way to say it, but I never wrote it down, so now I'm screwed.
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Postby Gatsthedarksword » Fri Oct 25, 2002 8:36 pm

hahahaha ok thats hilariuos. but yeah, it's hard to argue things really well at the time and then like 3 in the morning you wake up and say "i got it i shouldv'e said oh yeah well if you are what you eat then what does that make canibals" or something really good i have that problem all the time so i started getting my thoughts together on potential arguments ahead of time so now i don't do too bad
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