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Masking Questions for Vegas

Postby Kero777 » Sat Aug 11, 2007 3:27 pm

I just spent about 15 minutes in Vegas masking out a frame. When I go to the next frame, I know there is going to be movement, so I have to change it. I go to drag the anchors, but they do something weird: a bar comes in-between it and I can't really move the anchors that need to change (moving hands). They kind of glitch out. :? Am I supposed to start completely from scratch on the next frame or is there a way to move the anchors that need to move?

Also, I would really like a black border around my mask so it looks better. I tried using a chroma keying way that someone suggested: setting everything but blur to zero. It doesn't really work that well. Is there a way I can do this too?

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Postby NS » Sat Aug 11, 2007 3:30 pm

<_<... Pic of what you mean by bars appear?
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Postby JaddziaDax » Sat Aug 11, 2007 3:36 pm

do you mean the dotted line between them sticks in place?

pretty much all you need to do is make sure you select the anchor and not the bar and then you can move them freely... i usually just click on nothing and then attempt to click on the anchor again...

if you want a "stroke" around your mask, then the easiest way to do that is to do your masking in photoshop... with an image sequence O.o which is a bigger pain in the butt than doing it in vegas imho
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Postby Kero777 » Sat Aug 11, 2007 4:08 pm

Sorry, I knew I should have snapped a picture. This is my second frame and you can clearly see that I need to change the outline of the arm is because it moved up, but I just can't seem to get the hang of it:

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I tried just selecting the square and not the bar, like you suggested, but it made no difference. I'm going to laugh at myself when I figure out what I am doing wrong. I'm not great at learning how to mask... I couldn't even get the hang of it in Photoshop. :P
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Postby JaddziaDax » Sat Aug 11, 2007 4:49 pm

oh those things, i hate those things XD

take the dots at the end and drag them back into the anchor and it will go away XD (or at least not make your other lines squiggle..)
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Postby NS » Sat Aug 11, 2007 5:24 pm

yah...

First select the pointer tool.. the arrow thing. then a hand'll show up when you're over a part that isn't the anchor path.. click outside it once(left click)(the cursor doesn't show up on the picture taken by screenshot... but you can figure it out XD)
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anyway.. after you do that. the path'll look like above, then you click where one of the ancors are.. or just on the path somewhere
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And you should be able to move individual anchors. =O.

P.S. if anybody cares.. I'm not doing this for a project it was just the one it automatically loaded up so I used it :D
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Postby NS » Sat Aug 11, 2007 5:25 pm

Or when you accidently mess up and you make the big oval ones.. you can just undo it by hitting Ctrl+Z
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Postby BasharOfTheAges » Sat Aug 11, 2007 6:02 pm

Those things are annoying as all hell (get them in AE all the time). AFAIK, practice is the best method here. Once you get good at playing with the curves you can become quite adept at using them too.
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Postby Kero777 » Sat Aug 11, 2007 6:18 pm

Thanks everyone! I'm getting the hang of it now. :D Those pictures helped a lot. I realized I had accidentally enabled snapping earlier and that's partly why I couldn't get it to go where I wanted.
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Postby Kero777 » Sat Aug 11, 2007 6:25 pm

Oh, and is Photoshop really the only way to get a nice border around the mask? Has anyone found a way in Vegas :?:
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Postby NS » Sat Aug 11, 2007 6:31 pm

Well.. Instead of chroma keying, you could just feather the Mask itself.
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Postby Kero777 » Sat Aug 11, 2007 6:53 pm

NerdStrudel wrote:Well.. Instead of chroma keying, you could just feather the Mask itself.


That idea is better than chroma keying, but I was thinking more of like a solid black border, or close to it (hopefully?). :P *Knows she's going to have to resort to Photoshop*
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Postby NS » Sat Aug 11, 2007 6:55 pm

Not sure....... You could play with some settings.. or putting solid black color with it.. or something Idk.
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Postby Kero777 » Sat Aug 11, 2007 7:34 pm

NerdStrudel wrote:Not sure....... You could play with some settings.. or putting solid black color with it.. or something Idk.


Hey, that doesn't work too bad at all! Thanks, NerdStrudel!

What you have to do is: put solid black color underneath your mask, copy the key frames from your mask onto the black color picture underneath it. Then just feather the black out on the black picture. :D

Does anyone know of any easier methods? I have a tendency to go through with something and then someone will tell me that there is a way that is a lot easier. Lol.
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Postby Kero777 » Sat Aug 11, 2007 8:08 pm

Oh no! :shock: :( Not this again. My old computer used to pop up with this message if I did more than one key-frame mask. I just got it for the first time on my brand new one. Please tell me someone knows how to fix this/what causes this. I get this error when I try to mask and then Vegas shuts down:

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Does anyone know? *Crosses fingers*
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