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Aight, listen up. Huddle! WMM Problem.

Postby Aurealis » Thu Aug 02, 2007 8:53 pm

SO.
Let's get started shall we?
I dont know, watching those fabulous AMVs on video sites make you want to make an AMV just for the fun of it too, you know?
So I sit down, turn on my computer, and open Windows Movie Maker.
I plop a clip in from an anime I like, and a song that I like.
It goes very well together, so I start editing to my likes and the music.
SO, after that clip, I decide to put a different clip from a different episode of the same anime.
BOOM.
I insert the clip, WMM freezes, and repeat.

Frames per second is same for both clips.
Same with sample rate and everything else.
Music isnt mp3 either, videos arent in XVID, DIVX either.....
I would really appreciate some help :/
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Re: Aight, listen up. Huddle! WMM Problem.

Postby Scintilla » Thu Aug 02, 2007 9:06 pm

Aurealis wrote:Music isnt mp3 either, videos arent in XVID, DIVX either.....

Okay, so what codecs <i>are</i> they using?

Also consider defragging your hard drive, closing other programs, upgrading to WMM2 if you haven't already done so, you know, all the usual stuff.
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Re: Aight, listen up. Huddle! WMM Problem.

Postby Ch3aLs3A L!n@ » Fri Aug 03, 2007 3:02 am

Aurealis wrote:SO, after that clip, I decide to put a different clip from a different episode of the same anime.
BOOM.
I insert the clip, WMM freezes, and repeat.

Frames per second is same for both clips.
Same with sample rate and everything else.
Music isnt mp3 either, videos arent in XVID, DIVX either.....


as I knoe H.264, Lag or even other video codec isn't fully play or allowed more than less 2 mins. on window movie maker...... unless you have FFDShow or CCCP installed it will play little bit longer but ...... I will suggested to use the GSPOT first and then check the video which you going to edit it on window movie maker... to know the right video format on the footage your using.
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Postby Aurealis » Fri Aug 03, 2007 12:10 pm

Well it seems that I can edit over 2 minutes, but they can't be compiled from 2 seperate footages.

(EXAMPLE)
I have episodes of animes in 3 parts (1 episode = Three 9 Minute parts)

I can edit with 1 part, but not with any other.
If I insert clip of any other part of anime, it crashes if I try playing back o.o;;

Im on Vista Windows Movie Maker
And apparently it says Version 6.0.0006 or whatever.


And video is in mp4 by the way.
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Re: RE

Postby BasharOfTheAges » Fri Aug 03, 2007 2:17 pm

Aurealis wrote:And video is in mp4 by the way.


Know those "Don't use DivX/XviD in any video editing program" banners that are in at least 50 to 100 threads around the site? Pretty much all lossy footage is covered by that.
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Postby NS » Fri Aug 03, 2007 2:21 pm

What are you talking about? what is a banners?
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Re: RE

Postby Scintilla » Fri Aug 03, 2007 2:33 pm

BasharOfTheAges wrote:
Aurealis wrote:And video is in mp4 by the way.

Know those "Don't use DivX/XviD in any video editing program" banners that are in at least 50 to 100 threads around the site? Pretty much all lossy footage is covered by that.

To be more specific, any codec that uses temporal/inter-frame compression is covered by that. And that includes H.264 (in any incarnation), which is very likely to be the video codec used if you've got MP4 files.
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Postby Aurealis » Tue Aug 07, 2007 11:51 pm

So I should edit with .avi files for best non-crash outcome?
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Postby Willen » Wed Aug 08, 2007 6:56 am

Aurealis wrote:So I should edit with .avi files for best non-crash outcome?

AVI is a container file, and as such can have stored in it a variety of video types encoded with many different codecs like DivX, XviD, Huffyuv, and DV to name a few.

As long as the AVI files contain video encoded with either Huffyuv, Lagarith, or other similar lossless video encoding (or Uncompressed video) you should experience less crashing and other problems.

Less preferable, but as long as you use a codec that is intra-frame (meaning one that makes every video frame is a keyframe like MJPEG or DV-AVI) you could get good results.

Another option (since Microsoft designed WMM to handle it) is to use WMV files. Unfortunately, MJPEG, WMV and similar video codecs are lossy and usually mean a drop in quality from the originals so I'd recommend against using them unless the lossless alternatives aren't feasible.

It's probably better to have all your source video using the same encoding to minimize switching of decoders mid-stream, but depending on how powerful your computer is, this may not be an issue.
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Postby Scintilla » Wed Aug 08, 2007 1:31 pm

Because codecs like XviD also use intra-frame compression:

Willen wrote:Less preferable, but as long as you use a codec that is intra-frame <b>only</b> (meaning one that makes every video frame is a keyframe like MJPEG or DV-AVI) you could get good results.

Slightly fixed. Sorry, I'm picky about terminology.
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Postby Willen » Fri Aug 10, 2007 3:16 am

Scintilla wrote:Because codecs like XviD also use intra-frame compression:

Willen wrote:Less preferable, but as long as you use a codec that is intra-frame <b>only</b> (meaning one that makes every video frame is a keyframe like MJPEG or DV-AVI) you could get good results.

Slightly fixed. Sorry, I'm picky about terminology.

Thanks for adding the clarification.

This kind of technical writing needs proof-reading for accuracy and lately I haven't had the energy to do that sufficiently.
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