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Pinnacle studio 10.5 question

Postby Ravensoldier22 » Mon Jul 09, 2007 11:47 pm

ok, well

I just got the program, and on the outside it looks like something I can use...

the thing is, on its minimum sys. requirements, I need 512 ram and I only have 256

should I go ahead and install anyways?
because I have nooo money for an upgrade as of now... :(

is it:

1. possible to run on 256
2. feasable to work with if it is possible

help?
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Postby NS » Mon Jul 09, 2007 11:57 pm

Most likely (like in most games) If you dumb down all the settings to as low as they go, you should be able to get by... But it'll still probably be laggy or choppy.
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Postby BasharOfTheAges » Tue Jul 10, 2007 12:01 am

Try to install. Certain software won't let you install if you don't hit the minimum requirements, so you'll know off the bat.
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Postby post-it » Tue Jul 10, 2007 3:47 am

.. you might want to read these reviews .. before installing it!!! :shock: :shock: :shock:

http://www.videohelp.com/tools/Pinnacle_Studio

.. seem's there's a little bit of an install and running issue regardless of the Memory Size.
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Postby Ravensoldier22 » Tue Jul 10, 2007 10:29 pm

well, i didn't have any problems with install...looks like most of those reviews are for a different version than I have...which is 10.5

but i do need an upgrade now....won't let me run on my current ram, which I found out is now only 207...(is that normal?)

stupid memory requirements.... :cry:
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studio plus version 11 - out of the box and onto hard drive.

Postby post-it » Wed Jul 11, 2007 2:08 am

Ravensoldier22 wrote:... my current ram, which I found out is now only 207...(is that normal?)

.. if your computer was designed before 2003, it might show it as 207meg available ..
I have seen 128meg show as 119meg available on Compaq EVO-330's so it is possible!

After seeing your post and then seeing the Reviews, I purchased the Studio Plus version 11.

There are three versions of Pinnacle Studio with the AVID Video Editor:
1) 49.95 single layer editor which looks to be about as useful as a Ulead Studio!
2) 99.95 dual layer editor -- that's the one I purchased.
3) 129.95 dual layer editor with a green blanket >_< for self chroma keying back-drops.

Named:
1) Studio
2) Studio plus
3) Studio ultimate

#2 comes with three DVD's and an extensive list of options. The requirements are
listed as 1.6gig dual core AMD or Intel core2 duo 2.4gig processor, 2gig RAM with Vista or 512meg Windows XP SP2, 256meg ATI Radeon 9600+ or Nvidia GeForce 6 video card, a sound card.
.. the only thing it does not come with are:
1) Quicktime 7 or newer
2) Divx codec's
3) AVCHD codec's
4) Dolby 2.1 channel codec.
.. things you must supply are:
1) a DVD ripper
2) the 5.1, 6.1 and/or 9.1 channel audio codec's.

It is quite clear that Studio Plus / Pinnacle .. wants you to follow the MicroSoft way of doing things. They have gone out of their way to make the Editor eat-memory for proper usage!
After loading this DVD's onto the hard drive of both my computers,
a) Compaq EVO-330 ( 2.4gig proc, 512meg ram, 100gig PATA HD ) WinXP SP2
b) Gateway ( AMD 5000+ duo core 64bit, 4gig ram, three 320gig SATA hd's ) Vista basic 32bit
the first thing it tryed to do was get on the internet to be registered?? I told it NO and it shut-down the Studio Program from running on both XP and Vista! .. Clearly, this design is following the MicroSoft way of design -- to get on-line. I activated the XP computer ( which I am using right now ) and my hard-drive went NUTS!!! .. I only spent $125.00 for this silly thing so I wasn't worried if it blew-up or not ^_^
.. it turns-out that the activation erases about 90% of the three-DVD's install. I am using it right now with no crashes nor problems. As far as the Updates everyone was complaining about, well yea: if you want to do certain effects then you need purchase those updates -- daah!

So far, its only been five hours sence I activated it, I see no problems with anything but HD-Encoding ( 512meg just stutters while trying to play a clip while in the Editing mode. )

Encoding was slow for HD MODE, about three minutes per minute of Video Encoding - thats not too bad!

I have not played with it enough to write a review, but I see no real problems with 512meg ram, 2.4gig Intel Processor and the Pinnacle Studio Plus version 11 ^_^

well, if anything, I have to thank you. I like to find new software. I hope that my ranting-on-and-on about what I went through might help you in your quest for what updates shall be needed for the software you are getting ready to install ^_^
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Postby Minion » Wed Jul 11, 2007 7:04 am

pinnacle really dropped the ball on version 10.
i suggest an earlier version.
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Postby Athena » Wed Jul 11, 2007 10:00 am

Minion wrote:pinnacle really dropped the ball on version 10.
i suggest an earlier version.


I have 8. It is complete crap.
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Postby Minion » Wed Jul 11, 2007 10:59 am

before premiere, i used 7 and 9 :/ idunnolol

not bad as far as upgrading from WMM goes. as an overall editor though, it's pretty meh.
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Postby Ravensoldier22 » Wed Jul 11, 2007 10:39 pm

I really appreciate the input/help!

I'm really anxious to try and get into this program...wmv isn't cutting it anymore

I guess my first priority would be upgrading, since this computer is fitted with the bare minimum on most of everything (it cost me around 500 total) and compared to a lot of other people's machines, no where near video editing standards...

But my amv ambitions will not be shattered because of this...I guess it's time to start saving... :( :(
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Postby Minion » Thu Jul 12, 2007 8:24 am

i'd suggest magix over pinnacle.
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Postby post-it » Fri Jul 13, 2007 9:40 pm

Howdy ^_^

.. I've been playing with Pinnacle Studio Pro 11 for about a week now and I'd have to agree with Minion on Magix over Pinnacle ~_~ ... its cheaper and easier to work with ~_~

.. The good news is that, "its not money waisted" to have this Pinnacle version -- it can do a few things which are impossible with Magix Pro 12.

.. ummm , I'll leave it at that! ... ( time to find Vegas 7 somewhere; they don't sell it kn Minnesota -- as far as I can tell ~_~ )
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Magix Video 2007 w/AC_*

Postby post-it » Sat Jul 21, 2007 9:44 pm

.. it seems that Magix over sea's has visited this board.

I recieved an E-mail from [ an un-named source ] and with it came an Evaluation Download.
Magix Video 2008 w/AC_* Encoders which I thought was kinda un-expected!
.. I tryed the Magix Video 2006 when it came out and I thought it was cheesy!

This version is not in English and it is not going to be released in English.

System Requirements:
WinME 2003 OEM, XP PRO ( not being redesigned for Vista ), Linux, OS-X

AMD Athlon 700 and 512meg memory
HD: AMD Athlon 1.2gig and 512meg memory

Intel 2.8 gig processor and 2gig memory
HD: not supported on XP and Linux

QuickTime - not supported [ seems MP4 is not just a Container :twisted: ]
Divx/Xvid - not recommended for anything ( hehe )

Formats depend on your Video Card:
2424 X 1366 ( 1366i )
1920 x 1080 ( 1080i )
.. all the 720i's

Codec's depend on your Audio Card:
AC_9, AC_8, AC_7, AC_6, AC_5, Digital Pro Logic, HQA Surround ... yes, I said Codec's.
. . . I'm getting the feeling that the US has waaay too many Patents on Audio >_<

I only bring this to your attention because it looks like "the Single Line Editors", like Virtual Dub, is here to stay ... Avid sold-out ... Ulead is up for bid ... Sony and Adobe are going to Court ... geez!!! ... if this keeps-up, HDTV and the New Gaming Standard I've been testing might not be around much longer ... except for UnderGround Development.
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Re: Magix Video 2007 w/AC_*

Postby Minion » Mon Jul 23, 2007 7:17 pm

post-it wrote: QuickTime - not supported [seems MP4 is still a container, and i have no clue what i'm talking about :twisted: ].


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Postby Smt410 » Sun Jul 29, 2007 8:51 am

I have one thing to suggest for pinnacle if your going to use it.
Don't clump all your video files into one folder.
For some reason the programers thought it would be a good idea to
have every scene pre-render up in the list.
It will make your processor usage jump up about 60% when you start up
the project page.
Other than that its a really easy program to use if your computer can handle it.

I just started with AE after using pinnacle on my first two tries at editing, and my head is swimmin now. I think after I get done with the masking part I'm going to jump back over to pinnacle for the whole timeline and overlay parts. The chroma keying green/blue screens are understandable to me there at leaste.
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