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Re: The Quickening - Videos

Postby Nya-chan Production » Sun Jun 24, 2012 5:06 pm

animAe wrote:
Kinematics wrote:[animAe] Test Subject

Errant lip flap at start, Misato. Other instances seemed to generally match up with intent, via subtitles.


Heheh, I was hoping someone would notice this! A few minutes near the deadline, I noticed the video I sent to Yue came out with a weird blocky encode, so I quickly fixed the blockiness, resent it in, then fell asleep not noticing that I unmuted all my muted layers on accident T^T But yes, that Misato clip was not supposed to be there :sweat: Lesson learned to actually watch the video before submitting!

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Damnit Misato Dx
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Well amusing! ;D
Happens even to the best of editors :> No worries, this explains it nicely~ \o/
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Re: The Quickening - Videos

Postby Radical_Yue » Mon Jun 25, 2012 3:48 pm

Group H videos are up.
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Re: The Quickening - Videos

Postby Kinematics » Tue Jun 26, 2012 11:31 pm

Round H-2

Not judged, but I still wanted to put together my thoughts. Very difficult to judge execution, as the song itself is so wispy and ephemeral. Putting together video that would actually hold it together is obviously quite difficult in the time allotted.


[irriadin] Inner Depths

Clipped out a good chunk of the start of the song, but done cleanly; I can't pick out where it happened from just listening.

Good match of video in general. Minimal modern tech and soft mood of the anime complemented the song well.

Switching from iris effect to full screen (0:06) was jarring. Expected at least a fast opening or zoom out.

First couple zoom transitions (0:25, 0:33) felt odd.

The ramp-up at 2:10 felt a bit slow, or possibly disjointed from the transition to running down the stairs.

The dive at 2:33 was perfect.

Iris closing at end was well done.


A lot of 'could have been done better' moments, and felt rather unfocused overall, but at the same time, felt... nice. Overall theme has middling strength; it certainly had the right settings for the mood of the song, but felt like it was passing over a lot of what it could have used.


[VivifxAMV] Utopian

Cut out almost the entire instrumental intro section. Can hear the blend (fairly obvious, given that it happens in the first few seconds), but done smoothly; not distracting.

Lots of fast cuts during the starting period that felt too fast for the music, but not as fast as the drum beat, so left in a sort of herky-jerky limbo.

Instrumental period from 0:37 - 0:50, character expressions felt wrong for this period of the song. Song is on the upbeat, while characters are showing pain and fear.

Primary chorus (0:50 - 1:20), just perfect. Video beautifully matched the mood of the song.

Surprised there were no scenes of Madoka's parents in the interlude or later periods, as things like Madoka's talk with her mom over drinks in the moonlight seemed like they'd fit well there.

Mami & Madoka on the bridge at 2:02 -- way too dark.


Overall, felt like its intended theme showed through the best of the three. Main problem was early-middle and late-middle composition. Early-middle felt like the characters weren't quite right, while late-middle felt a bit too simple and predictable.


[xDreww] No Robots Go

The consistent softening effects worked very well to match the tone.

Theme was a bit weak for the length used. Felt like it would have done better with 90-120 seconds instead of 160.

Probably should have cut out the interlude (1:30 - 1:42), as the music really didn't work well with the overall feeling.

Overall, matched the basic premise of the song (and points for the source used), but never really went anywhere with it.


Probably the best of the three for overall technical. Motion, color and feel were always consistently smooth, never felt out of place. Just weak on the thematic side.




Side note: Been rewatching some stuff recently, and finding a lot of the ugly banding I recognize from the videos. I somewhat expected it (ie: the flaws being due to the source, not the editing/encoding), but it's still disheartening to see on blu-ray discs. Been getting spoiled by the 10-bit fansub encodes from the last year.
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Re: The Quickening - Videos

Postby Radical_Yue » Tue Jul 03, 2012 8:43 pm

I LIVE! And there is a new rar of semifinal videos!
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Re: The Quickening - Videos

Postby Kinematics » Tue Jul 03, 2012 11:55 pm

Semifinal Group ABCD

Going to ignore most video artifacts, as I assume they're pretty much all coming from the source material at this point.


[Centurione] Don't Stop Me Now

Nice use of Apollon for the instruments. A couple selections ran counter to my expectations (eg: low notes while he's at the high end of the piano), but sync was excellent, and discrepancies easily ignored.

Pretty much everything up to ~0:42 (where she jumps from the diving platform) was decently solid.

Crashing into the storage locker seemed to come out of nowhere. Ill placed.

Stopping of the bicycle after crashing into the railway bar felt disjointed.

Entire unbraked run on the bike, while somewhat matching the lyrics, really didn't match the mood.

Trash can lid on her head at 0:57 was reused later in the video (1:25).

Not sure how the lyrics match up at all during this section (0:55 - 1:00).

Crashing her head into the post at 1:30 for the start of the 'rocketship' lyrics?

Other than the bit at ~1:46, there seems to be less and less coherency from here on.

Too much running.

The riff at 2:11-2:13 was good.

Honestly, while the primary video source was TGWLTT, it felt like a fairly weak choice paired with Apollon. Pretty much every Apollon segment helped bring out the energy of the song, but it's explicitly background, and needs the forground series to pull the video along, and that was only somewhat the case for TGWLTT. There were a number of segments that played well to the lyrics, but there was too much that felt like rather generic footage that didn't really contribute much.


[HaydenST] Having A Good Time

Amusing and unusual source.

Unfortunately, just about every clip felt like it could have been better used somewhere else in the song, interspersed with bits that almost worked. Makes it difficult to do scene-by-scene comments, so I'm just going to say, "A lot of stuff felt wrong."

The 1:30 ~ 2:00 period, with limited lyrics followed by mostly instrumentals, did pretty well.

Lip sync felt out of place. It wasn't bad, exactly, it's just that it was so sporadic that you get used to a non-lip sync approach to viewing, and then suddenly some random bit is tossed in there, and feels way out of place.


[LopezAMV] The Adam Bomb and Other Tales of Intrigue

Intro was weak, with no characters at all, despite the lyrics focusing on the 'I' (singer) of the song. The lyrics then move to non-personal references, but the video starts introducing characters. Probably intentional, since the video wasn't focusing on any particular characters (more of general lyric match), but it still felt wrong.

Most the rest past the intro, for the lyric portion, was amusing and decently matched; pretty much what was expected from initially hearing the song.

Loved the slips at 1:19, going through the different characters running.

Instrumental section was rather random. With no lyrics to match, it didn't seem to have anything else to really drive it. Sort of the opposite problem of Hayden's.

Ending was really weak.


[riccardocasu] Don't Stop Me Now

While the anime is well-used, the scene selections and general footage focus felt much fresher. Enjoyed it from that perspective.

Intro was somewhat weak. The facial expressions just don't quite seem to jive with the the lyrics.

However everything from the world on Karen's shoulders up to the fight with Karen worked really well.

Flames at 0:57 seemed like they were introduced too late. Running and hand push at 0:55-0:56 didn't really bridge well the bits between him in the sky and the portion on fire.

Cut from closeup of Koyomi after the flames, to the sudden pullback on the bike, was well done.

Uphill biking at 1:02 felt a bit random.

Karen's run at 1:28 (right after punching Koyomi) was way too rushed. Don't remember if it was like that in the original (probably was), but it felt out of sync with the rest of the movement.

Transition from the slam at 1:32 to Koyomi flying through the air at the freeway was disjointed.

Felt like there could have been a better transition scene before Karen leapt at him at the end.




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[riccardocasu] Don't Stop Me Now

Hayden's assessment of motivation for this group is probably not that far off.

Want to put Centurione's in there for the Apollon sections, but the TGWLTT parts really brought it down.
Lopez's is fun on the lyric portion, but falls down on the instrumental.
Hayden's is good on the instrumental, but kinda shambles about on the lyrics.
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Re: The Quickening - Videos

Postby truax575 » Wed Jul 04, 2012 12:04 am

what happened to group F for round two, the list says completed yet there is no group F
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Re: The Quickening - Videos

Postby Radical_Yue » Wed Jul 04, 2012 12:06 am

Kinematics wrote:Semifinal Group ABCD

Going to ignore most video artifacts, as I assume they're pretty much all coming from the source material at this point.



HD sources = Noisy and bandy as all hell.

From the sound of it, you're probably using a rather nice LED monitor. The only reason I say that is before when I was using an adorable little LCD monitor I was quite happy. Now I've moved to a rather large LED monitor and dear lord...EVERYTHING IS UNCLEAN! D: D: D: SO DIRTY! >_______o There are a very, very, VERY, small amount of videos that don't at least suffer from a bit of noise and banding for me anymore. Stupid super detailed monitors ;_;

truax575 wrote:what happened to group F for round two, the list says completed yet there is no group F


This

Round 2 - Results [Updated with Group G & H Results] wrote:Updated with Group H & G results.

You may notice that F is missing. That is because every last person in Group F dropped and failed to send in a video of any sort.

To balance things out, I randomly moved 1 person from Group H to Group F and the third place winner from Group G to Group F. They're all on the same schedule now so those who have been moved will not have to edit at different times. I only moved people to balance things out.

Due to the short period of time between Round 2 & 3 and the fact that no one from Group H has been eliminated (MimS was unable to turn a video in) the judging has been skipped.


I have also decided to align the songs so Groups E, F, G & H will all get the same song. Originally there would be 2 songs, but I've flipped a coin and the song has been decided.
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Re: The Quickening - Videos

Postby truax575 » Wed Jul 04, 2012 12:14 am

Radical_Yue wrote:
Kinematics wrote:Semifinal Group ABCD

truax575 wrote:what happened to group F for round two, the list says completed yet there is no group F


This

Round 2 - Results [Updated with Group G & H Results] wrote:Updated with Group H & G results.

You may notice that F is missing. That is because every last person in Group F dropped and failed to send in a video of any sort.

To balance things out, I randomly moved 1 person from Group H to Group F and the third place winner from Group G to Group F. They're all on the same schedule now so those who have been moved will not have to edit at different times. I only moved people to balance things out.

Due to the short period of time between Round 2 & 3 and the fact that no one from Group H has been eliminated (MimS was unable to turn a video in) the judging has been skipped.


I have also decided to align the songs so Groups E, F, G & H will all get the same song. Originally there would be 2 songs, but I've flipped a coin and the song has been decided.


ok thank you, it all makes sense now
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Re: The Quickening - Videos

Postby Kinematics » Wed Jul 04, 2012 12:42 am

Radical_Yue wrote:From the sound of it, you're probably using a rather nice LED monitor. The only reason I say that is before when I was using an adorable little LCD monitor I was quite happy. Now I've moved to a rather large LED monitor and dear lord...EVERYTHING IS UNCLEAN! D: D: D: SO DIRTY! >_______o There are a very, very, VERY, small amount of videos that don't at least suffer from a bit of noise and banding for me anymore. Stupid super detailed monitors ;_;


Unclean! Unclean! So true ; ;

I've been poking half-heartedly at some 10bit encoding ideas. Will see if anything ever pans out.
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Re: The Quickening - Videos

Postby Centurione » Wed Jul 04, 2012 4:14 am

Kinematics wrote:[Centurione] Don't Stop Me Now

Nice use of Apollon for the instruments. A couple selections ran counter to my expectations (eg: low notes while he's at the high end of the piano), but sync was excellent, and discrepancies easily ignored.

Pretty much everything up to ~0:42 (where she jumps from the diving platform) was decently solid.

Crashing into the storage locker seemed to come out of nowhere. Ill placed.

Stopping of the bicycle after crashing into the railway bar felt disjointed.

Entire unbraked run on the bike, while somewhat matching the lyrics, really didn't match the mood.

Trash can lid on her head at 0:57 was reused later in the video (1:25).

Not sure how the lyrics match up at all during this section (0:55 - 1:00).

Crashing her head into the post at 1:30 for the start of the 'rocketship' lyrics?

Other than the bit at ~1:46, there seems to be less and less coherency from here on.

Too much running.

The riff at 2:11-2:13 was good.

Honestly, while the primary video source was TGWLTT, it felt like a fairly weak choice paired with Apollon. Pretty much every Apollon segment helped bring out the energy of the song, but it's explicitly background, and needs the forground series to pull the video along, and that was only somewhat the case for TGWLTT. There were a number of segments that played well to the lyrics, but there was too much that felt like rather generic footage that didn't really contribute much.


Thanks, this is very useful. Actually, you're a really good critic as you've mentioned all the parts that I rushed when I suddenly knew I have less time that I thought xD. And I realized TGWLTT is a bad choice too late. But still, it's recieved much better than I thought it would so I'm quite glad :D
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Re: The Quickening - Videos

Postby Radical_Yue » Wed Jul 04, 2012 5:17 pm

E&F and G&H videos are now available~!

We only had one lame per- I mean, one drop! :D
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Re: The Quickening - Videos

Postby Kinematics » Fri Jul 06, 2012 3:29 pm

Another run of excellent videos.

Groups E&F - 3


[Ileia] AMV Pop Culture (As Performed By Alchemists)

The only video to draw directly from the song's original intent: pop culture. I recognized most of the styles, though it really only struck me as a direct parody when the Pop Up Video notes showed up. Yeah, a bit slow. >.>

Watching through the second time, and paying attention to those elements, it was far more obvious. But then, that's what makes them part of the 'pop culture' of AMVs -- they're distinctive styles, and something that most people have seen and can easily relate to.

I didn't see any immediately noticeable faults, as the style trumped the content. To an extent I'd say that the video itself was only mildly entertaining, but that's also part of the point; it's not a video for the sake of a video, it's a video for the sake of common elements we share and recognize.


[Mally] Pop Culture

Odd mixing in of live footage. A certain amount of originality, but also felt a bit lazy; that is, not as much work was done with the live footage as with the anime footage.

One of three (out of the 7 from both groups) that used a single anime source for footage. Nichijou definitely works well with the overall tone.

Very good sync and effects. Visually it all flowed together well (good direction).

Doesn't seem to have any particular focus, just a mix of random happenings, so nothing to really pick out as 'wrong'.


[pacotacoshell] Pop Culture

Excellent sync, and very well constructed overall flow and direction. Mood and intensity were maintained throughout, with very good lyric match. About the only thing I could maybe find fault with would be the color balance transitions over the course of the video.

Only minor complaint on clips chosen is the Digimon (I think?) bit at ~2:55. The flat coloring really looked out of place compared to all the more 3-dimensional looking art from the rest of the video. There were a couple other clips from Digimon earlier on, but they included enough texture to not feel wrong.


[xDreww] Razzle-Dazzle

Focused more on the dance aspect, and really pulled it off well.

Some bits early on, plus the slower bits in the middle ('turn things back'), felt 'softer' -- like the editing wasn't quite as tight and precise as it could have been. Possibly intentional, and not something I'd say is 'wrong', just a subtle feeling that it could have been slightly better.

The pure dance segments generally fit in quite well, with the dancing pretty much always feeling like it belonged with the song (one issue: 1:51, final hand movement was out of sync with final note).



Top picks:
... Can I say all 4? meh.

I'd probably always pick pacotacoshell's Pop Culture as one of the two, but my other choice keeps changing...





Group G&H - 3

[animAe] Game[play] Boy

The third of the single-source videos, this time using TWGOK.

It's easy to make the connection to this anime based on the lyrics of the song, but taken as a whole it feels a bit weaker.

A lot of the early cuts felt a bit disjointed and random, and hard to get a feel of a flow. Basically, the pattern was his direct interactions in the 3d world, followed by a retreat to the 2d, but with touches of the 3d thrown in. However, while I can see that after the fact, while watching it generally felt kind of random.

The sync with his arms and hands motions was very well done. The intermediary bits were generally well placed, but the sync was a bit off at times. The intro period (0:38-0:53) felt way to slow relative to the music.

Main problem was the feel that most of the video was just an adaptation of that one scene, with filler at the beginning to lead up to it.

There's at least three ways you could approach the construction of this video using this source, and I think a more all-encompassing view using the full song length could have worked better. The way it was done felt too limiting.


[irriadin] Hotpot Special

Weak impact at the start compared to most others.

Interesting idea to use a different source per element of the song, however the "I could be your boy" period seemed to drag on a lot with the same video source (and mostly the same scenes, for that matter), with minimal lyric match. Bubbles in the middle of that could have helped add impact, but mostly just floated there, and didn't really do anything.

Other than that middle bit, though, most of it worked ok. Lot of general randomness in scene choices, though.


[VivifxAMV] Just Another Anime Mix

Strong start.

My favorite "I could be your boy; you could be my girl" segment out of these videos, though mixing in the older, lower-quality footage was a mild annoyance.

Lip sync occasinally wasn't quite on spot (eg: 0:25, Kyon at 1:07, 1:17), and there were a couple cases of errant lip flap (eg: Mio @0:22 (second), 2:14, 2:23).

Slacked off a lot in the last ~20-30 seconds.



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[VivifxAMV] Just Another Anime Mix

Bit of a tossup between the other two. There were bits that I liked, but also bits that dragged both of them down.
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Re: The Quickening - Videos

Postby Radical_Yue » Tue Jul 17, 2012 8:29 pm

Have some videos~!
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Re: The Quickening - Videos

Postby Kinematics » Sat Jul 21, 2012 3:16 am

Semifinal EFGH


[animAe] Boring Metropolis

Lots of distracting video artifacts throughout the video, the type that I can't just attribute to source material.

The sync during the bridge (~2:00+, particularly 2:05+) seems slightly off.

As far as content.. this is a very difficult one to evaluate. Lyric match was mostly quite good; effects were mostly pretty good, though tended to stand out sometimes; the inserted jokes felt a bit cheezy -- though certainly intentional, it feels like it weakens the video a bit. Still, it was pretty solid.

However, despite all that, it just felt a bit bland. There were parts that worked very well, but also parts that seemed to lose the energy of the video. It seems to put too much effort into the jokes of "how far we've come", but never really drew that out of the original source, which really didn't seem well suited to express that to its fullest.

Overall, an adequately decent job, though it feels like it's perhaps a bit limited due to the source material.


[Ileia] Partners in (Fighting) Crime

A new (main) source for the contest. Works very well with the song.

Some ugly artifacting around 2:17.

Good direction. Color/tone transitions were all handled well (though there were a few bits where the brightness differences disturbed things).

Excellent thematic and lyric matchup throughout, though perhaps a bit too 'clean' (and I don't mean the video CGI). I can only say this as a subjective feeling, but it seemed a bit too sterile. There was nothing really wrong technically, but it never really seemed to grab me.


[Mally] - Colon

Conceptually, the sources work great with the song. Execution-wise, though, things just didn't seem to pull together as well.

Lot of periods where the screen was just too 'busy', too much use of the time-travel effect from S;G, etc. Was fine in the intro segment, but not so much with most places where it was used in the lyrics.

Lyric match and general thematics seemed a bit clumsy. First verse was good; second verse seemed to have no real match.

After more watching and comparing, I think it broke down most due to the audio edit. The last 30-45 seconds were a continuous repeat of the chorus refrain. Since you dropped out the bridge and interlude, there was the lack of the buildup that could have been used to better pace the storyline. The ending ended up feeling like a random mishmash of stuff, just throwing stuff in at maximum energy.



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[Ileia] Partners in (Fighting) Crime
[animAe] Boring Metropolis


Took a long time to write this review up, as it was hard figuring out what to say. Things felt 'wrong' for all the videos, but it was hard to figure out what, exactly, was wrong, other than, "This video could have been better."

While I picked animAe's video for my second choice based on execution, I'd say that Mally's video had the greater -potential-. Ileia's video was technically masterful, but lacking something I can't even begin to guess at.
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Re: The Quickening - Videos

Postby Radical_Yue » Wed Aug 01, 2012 9:49 pm

LET THERE BE FINALS!
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