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Postby jal0021 » Sun Jan 12, 2003 5:17 pm

They're just paper ballots, right? Why didn't they just print new ones?

Oh well...if they're just going to put it to a staff/judge vote, that's fine. I'm anxious to hear the results, though.
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Postby Ashyukun » Sun Jan 12, 2003 5:53 pm

I was wondering about that as well... surely a few of us that got the email with the ballots were there, so even if they hadn't brough the file with them, they should have been able to get ahold of it and, if there were no computers with printers handy, run to the nearest Kinko's and make more copies.

I'm anxious about the results as well, this being the first time I've (successfully) entered and competed in a real con AMV contest... Don't know quite what to think about just the staff voting, but if that's all that could be done, oh well.
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Postby grayplague » Sun Jan 12, 2003 7:57 pm

Ashyukun wrote:so even if they hadn't brough the file with them, they should have been able to ........ run to the nearest Kinko's and make more copies.
Look at if from a staffer's position.

If I remember correctly the room they showed it in could hold 300+ people. (i might be wrong. memory hazy) So with two showings you would need atleast 600 ballots.

At sugoicon last year we spent $80 gettings the ballots copied and we had i think 500 made. (again.. my memory)

So, when you have to pay the bill, would you:

a) just go make more copies and pay more money
or
b) look from the ones that you misplaced as hard as you damn well can.


I dont blame them on their choice to not make more.
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Postby MistyCaldwell » Sun Jan 12, 2003 8:01 pm

grayplague - You should have stuck around the amv panel cause at the end, Uncle Milo gave me and RichLather a private screening of his Fushigi Yuugi video. Well, not exactly :wink: But after we got kicked out of the room for the next panel we shot the breeze for about 15 minutes ^_^

I am still in the process of finishing my con report. I wasn't as nice as you in my journal but I am calling it like I see it. Animation hell was about the only thing I truly enjoyed though I only went Friday. I saw no reason for the other 2 days...not that I thought it was bad...I just didn't think it was as good as they could have made it for the location and resources. Just my opinion.
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Postby Ashyukun » Sun Jan 12, 2003 8:50 pm

grayplague wrote:Look at if from a staffer's position.

If I remember correctly the room they showed it in could hold 300+ people. (i might be wrong. memory hazy) So with two showings you would need atleast 600 ballots.

At sugoicon last year we spent $80 gettings the ballots copied and we had i think 500 made. (again.. my memory)

So, when you have to pay the bill, would you:

a) just go make more copies and pay more money
or
b) look from the ones that you misplaced as hard as you damn well can.


I dont blame them on their choice to not make more.


I probably would have done what they did for the first showing- and invited people to come back again for the second showing and searched like hell for the ballots before the second showing. But, I probably would have bitten the bullet and made more copies if the original ones hadn't been found by an hour or so before the second showing. 600 copies at Kinko shouldn't be much more than $50 if I'm remembering rates right. Some cons even have their own copy machine, which would have been even less per copy.I know when I was tech staff at AXNY, we probably ended up having to buy twice that in connectors that hadn't been thought necessary initially. I think I would have gone with spending the extra money and having people be able to vote instead of just not having voting at all- but I wasn't there, and I don't know exactly what happened- maybe they asked, and the con chairs/heads told them not to make more copies. I'm glad that, by the sound of it, the contest went well otherwise. It's just a bit of a disappointment as one of the entrants that the attendees didn't apparently get to vote on the awards.
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Postby MistyCaldwell » Sun Jan 12, 2003 9:00 pm

Of the things I have to complain about, the ballot issue isn't even one of them. I don't really care if I win a contest anyway since I just want my video shown to an audience. (it should look/sound good for fairness and they delivered on that part)

The thing about it that they should be ashamed of though is letting down the people who like that sort of thing. If they wanted to do screenings, fine. But if they say it's a contest they should announce awards Saturday night with everything else. For some amv creators, that is an exciting part of the con they attend. So even if it was a con staff vote after all, they should do it Saturday night...and they might have but I wasn't there.

You do have to admit....it was pretty amatuer to 'lose' hundreds of ballots.
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Postby jal0021 » Sun Jan 12, 2003 9:24 pm

I'll admit to being a little bewildered about how they managed to lose a box full of hundreds of pieces of paper. Something like that's not light, so it's not like you'd be toting it around, only to accidentally set it down and forget about it.

But, mistakes happen. At least they went through the effort looking for them.

I'm a little more bothered by the conditions of the screening itself if it was as noisy as Misty described. My video has a lot of quiet moments - in fact, it's for that reason I wonder if it's all that suitable for a convention setting - and without those quiet moments, a lot of dramatic effect is lost. I had been contemplating whether or not to send the same video to Ushicon, waiting around to see the results from Ohayocon (if it had won anything, I didn't really want to turn around and send it off to the very next convention), but once I heard how poor the conditions of the screening were, I decided to submit to Ushicon regardless. I mailed the CD yesterday.

I'm just happy to have the video shown in front of an interested audience, especially since it was brand spankin' new and have received little feedback on it yet, so whether or not the contest worked out, I won't complain. However, if they are going to do some sort of judging, it would be nice if they wouldn't leave everyone hanging for a long time.
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Postby Ashyukun » Sun Jan 12, 2003 10:11 pm

I'm really not all too concerned about knowing about who won- I'm also just happy to finally get to show my work to an interested audience. I'm easily more upset about not being able to make it to the con myself to see the reaction to the video and to finally meet some of the other editors than I am about the problems with the ballots. I'm sure the staff running the contest did the best they could. I suppose I can't be too critical, given some of the problems and delays we had with the AXNY AMV contest. :oops:

Does anyone know if there was going to be a compilation of the videos that were entered/shown at the con? There were a couple on the list that weren't available for download that I'd love to see...
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Postby grayplague » Sun Jan 12, 2003 10:58 pm

I walked into the amv panel right as DeMoss was finishing up showing his Episode 1 trailer... yet again. I met up with DJ Fritz right then and we just shot the breeze for like 15 min.


Damn.... could have shot the breeze as a bigger group ^_^
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Postby RichLather » Mon Jan 13, 2003 12:48 am

I ran into DJ Fritz briefly on Friday; had I realized fully who it was I was talking to, I'd've been more praiseful of "Beboppin'" at the time. And of course also saw Misty, Nullspace (Null-something , I know that), Brad DeMoss, Unca Milo...

Interesting to hear about the ballot situation. I hope the results are not terribly skewed as a result. I arrived late for the Friday screening due to the fan parody panel I was on; missed the whole trailer category, and unfortunately failed to catch Earthcurrent's "Ave Maria" video. I've seen it before, but wanted to see reaction. I did arrive just in time to see mine and Misty's, and stayed the rest of the way through. "Happy Happy Joy Joy" was a scream...the old guy used for Stinky Wizzleteats' lines was perfect. I'll post more detailed commentary tomorrow after a good night's sleep, and with a ballot in front of me for guidance.

Glad you stayed through Hell, Misty. We had a good core crowd of a couple hundred that stayed the whole time. I didn't know if the playlist I'd worked out was worthy of the attention, but adding in the GI Joe safety clips may have played a part. Now I know.


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Postby grayplague » Mon Jan 13, 2003 12:59 am

According to Fritz, who stayed til the bitter end of it all, my "foreseen companions" apparently won best action.

I shall no longer rant about the ballot issue :P
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Postby AnglJLo » Mon Jan 13, 2003 4:03 pm

Hey I entered my video for Revloutionary Girl Utena called "Dying Rose" to Dia Another Day by Madonna. This was the first convention I've sent a video to, and I was wondering if anyone who may have seen my video could give me some feedback? Thanks :D
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Postby RichLather » Mon Jan 13, 2003 9:01 pm

I rather liked it. It was certainly quite good for a first effort. For the most part, your editing stayed crisp and flowed with the pace of the song.

I wouldn't mind downloading it to watch again.
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Postby EarthCurrent » Mon Jan 13, 2003 11:54 pm

RichLather wrote:unfortunately failed to catch Earthcurrent's "Ave Maria" video. I've seen it before, but wanted to see reaction.


:cry: :cry: :cry: They probably shifted uncomfortably, unable to fathom the depth of emotion they should have felt. :cry: :cry: :cry:

Did anyone manage to catch it though?
I'm wondering how it turned out on the bigscreen.
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Postby jal0021 » Tue Jan 14, 2003 12:04 am

I just noticed that my video would have played right after "Ave Maria", and right before Rich's. Bookended by two great videos...

Not sure if that's good or bad. :)
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