Idea for an all AMV gathering/Convention/Expo

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Idea for an all AMV gathering/Convention/Expo

Postby Vlad G Pohnert » Sun Sep 01, 2002 1:29 am

Ok, I've discussed this with a few individuals so I figure I might as well through the idea of and see what people thing. I been formalating it for some time now.

This who AMV thing has grown to such a large community that I think it's maybe time that we organized some sort of weekend gathering dedicated to our favorate art of AMVs.

This would enable us to control and plan all the events and all instead of being under the control of a general convention. Here we could have several contest for both beginners and experienced AMV creators, tons of pannels and workshops and best of all ORGANIZED gatherings, dinners, etc! We could feature events to also watch videos and provide feedback to creators, etc. Lots of events can involved both the beginners and expericed creators!! We can even have a small hardware expo and test editing systems back to back, AMV gameshows, editing competitions and things that we can't do normally in a convention due to schedule and space restrictions.

Yes, I realize the legality of AMVs, but we are not talking about a huge con with tens of thousands of individuals with national wide TV advertising here so I don't see a problem here as long as we don't make a profit and sell our stuff.

In terms of financing this, since we are not talking about guests, we would be looking at mainly facility and AV equipment costs, but I'm sure if everyone pre-registered then that would not be a major problem.

I myself have lots of expereince in convention and event running since I've done it for over 10 years and think this is quite possible! If we get enough individuals together to organize this, I don't see why we can't do it. I for one am willing to put the time and effort into it

Just think of the CD swaps, cool AMV events only, things you could learn and meeting everyone without having to find each other or trying to organize get togethers!! And why not do this, even video editors have these kind of expo/con tye get togethers...

So, what are your thoughts on this....

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Postby FurryCurry » Sun Sep 01, 2002 1:51 am

It's a nice idea, I suppose the biggest problems are when and where.

Its always going to be too far or at the wrong time for some people. (duh)

Since the majority of creators seem to be of an age where they're still in school, something during spring or summer break times seems most appropriate.

East, West, or piss off large numbers of people by trying to compromise, and pick something somewhere in the middle? maybe split it into East & West coast meets?

I wonder if it would be possible or desirable to join forces with or "Borg" a small anime con looking for exposure/assistance, and "adopt" it as a-m-v.org's pet?

I don't have any real experience helping out with stuff like this, and I'm basically lazy. This is just me thinking out loud about the possibilities, but yeah, I'd be up for something, time permitting.
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Postby Vlad G Pohnert » Sun Sep 01, 2002 2:03 am

Yes, lots of logistics would have to be worked out on this, at this point I just wondering what kind of interest or support such a idea would have....

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Postby MistyCaldwell » Sun Sep 01, 2002 2:10 am

I'm all for it ^_^


I would say we should piggy back another con to begin with. Not have it on the same day and not the same place but nearby and within the same couple of days of a large con. That alone should mean more than a few AMV people could come.

For example: Many people went to Otakon and arrived on Thursday with nothing to do. We wanted to have a get together, but nothing really became solid.

If we say...privately rented a location the day before or after a con date then we'd have people already. No one is to say we couldn't have a couple of these a year.

Heck, I paid 20 bucks to go to my crappy 5 year high school reunion a coulple weeks ago. I wouldn't mind paying a fee like that of con reg to co-rent a nice place for AMV actvities ^_^ 'Course, more than just a few people would have to pre-pay or something to keep from getting screwed if no one shows up and we (few people who came) were stuck with a bill.


Sound feasible?
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Postby Vlad G Pohnert » Sun Sep 01, 2002 2:14 am

Care would have to be taken to piggy back on a con. That's kind of what the AMV track does at AWA. We would have to make sure we have control of what we do and the rooms we need for everything.....

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Postby Fluxmeister » Sun Sep 01, 2002 2:20 am

Very interesting! 8)

Maybe taking the initiative and just planning a 50-60 person get together for the sake of just trying it out... might really give us an idea of what could be possible.

Also Vlad, I applaud your statement about equality among creators (the post in the general section). I think a con dedicated to the love of editing amvs would be great! Although I must admit some concern due to the lack of people with the same attitude. I'd rather talk to someone about something they didn't like in my video then have them yell at the screen about how much it sucks! :?

...I guess you can't control jerks though... :shock:

But where in the world can you be 100% sure that a decent level of respect is maintained...
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Postby MistyCaldwell » Sun Sep 01, 2002 2:20 am

By that I mean time only.

A seperate event totally, but on the same weekend in the same town.

It would probably be necessary to tell them about it so they don't think we are trying to steal their fire and have a rival con ^_^

Most cons are friday-sat-sun. Thursday or Wednesday would be good...and I think only for a year or two. Just starting up an AMV event that people would have to drive to for only a 1 day event may not be practical is what I am thinking...

After it got bigger then who's to say it couldn't attract 100-400 people and be like a big AMV specialty convention ? That sounds like fun to me.
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Postby TaranT » Sun Sep 01, 2002 2:55 am

I couldn't promise to be at one of these get-togethers, but I'd definitely consider it. The usual events of an anime con don't interest me anymore; e.g. Sakura-Con, I only went to opening ceremonies and the AMV showing.

A major selling point would be the theater. Maybe a rental of one theater in a multiplex...if the right equipment was available.

The location might depend on where you could count on having enough interested volunteers on-site to do advance preparations. AMV makers seem to cluster in a few metro areas that might be on the list of first-choices.

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Postby FurryCurry » Sun Sep 01, 2002 3:01 am

Good thoughts, Misty. that's exactly the sort of thing I was imagining in my post.

You might even be able to get a deal on a conference room for the day before the con, or something at a nearby "overflow" hotel. Maybe a room with a projector, or something.

This Sugoicon, I'm arriving Thursday and leaving Monday for a Fri-Sat-Sun con. That's for getting in contact with the friends I'm meeting, and exhaustion/hangover recovery, respectively. 8)

Adding in a day/half day for socializing/doing AMV stuff would be easy, in a circumstance like that, and I'd likely even go to a con I otherwise might not, for an AMV gathering.

And TaranT, heh, what the hell, I plan to go to SakuraCon next year too.
Maybe that could be a test-bed location? Not too big of a con, but big enough.
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Postby Paul Kievits » Sun Sep 01, 2002 4:41 am

I'm all for it, though I'd probably never be able to attend (unless you held it in europe :P)
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Postby NME » Sun Sep 01, 2002 5:02 am

Being a Canadian creator (and also not having ANY cons in the area) I think that this is a great idea. There are almost limitless things that could be done.

Think about it, I can't exactly remember who said this but what about Iron Chef like AMV contests? Creators bring in their hardware. All get the same footage, music and such and are given an hour or so to work. While not alot would get done, I'm still very certain that the end result would be interesting.

And jeez, just socializing with people would be a blast. Since we are a community having meetings like this would make us come together even more. I'm all for this and willing to help in any way I can.
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Postby Red Wolf » Sun Sep 01, 2002 10:41 am

This definetly sounds like an interesting idea but I would be concerned about piggy backing another con. Even if we held events a few days before or after the con it will still hurt our attendance and that con's attendance. A lot of people can do Friday afternoon to Sunday afternoon but I bet most can't do Wednesday to Sunday and given that a lot of people who work and everyone one in school gets the weekends off then doing a Friday to Sunday event would probably work out better. I really don't see a need to piggy back. Small, startup cons need to entice local people to come in so they can grow enough to entice regionally and then nationally. Because we already have an organized structure to work within (this site, the AMV mail list, etc) we know that we'll have to do a national con to start with.

I agree we should look at spring or summer for the when. Spring will be harder to pull off since spring break ranges from mid March to late April so I personally say aim for early summer and try to avoid any major anime cons by at least two weeks.

Assuming we don't piggy back I think the where would be best answer by who's willing to work on this. I know I would have no problem helping out but since I don't see this being held in Atlanta my assistance would have to be remote. We'll need at least a few trusted individuals to make the large arrangments such as setting up facilities and bringing in the equipment. Things like registration, event planning and scheduleing, and AMV contests can be done remotely if we send partisipants to the right person. So what we need to determine is if we have anyone in a good location (major east/west coast city) who would have some experience and a lot of desire to work on this idea.
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Postby Hakura » Sun Sep 01, 2002 12:06 pm

I am also all for it ^^

My life revolves around editing...and well..DDR ^^; But I'm working towards a career in the video editing area so I'm more then willing to get this off the ground.

I am also a Canadian editor. ^^

As for the place, that would be a tough one, but if we have the support behind this we can do it.

Various contests, get togethers, dinners, showcases, hardware, software, demonstrations, panels, a bunch of editors and most of all a FRIENDLY atmosphere!

I also find that at cons I'm there mostly for Cosplay, AMV's, meeting people and cosplay contets. Watching anime doesn't interest me much because I have practly everything the places show, unless it's unreleased...

So an all AMV con would be great. ^^
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Postby iserlohn » Sun Sep 01, 2002 3:00 pm

Not to sound too much like a troll, but...

Isn't this AWA anyways? It's not like AWA is known for its guests (perusing fansview I didn't see an overt link to anything J-GOH related) and it sure as hell isn't friendly to the cosplay...it just seems to be the big AMV con to begin with. Why not go all the way and kill everything else from the convention?

The side-note is that for fans in the DC area, AnimeUSA this year is shaping up to be a big AMV party too. Hope it's fun and friendly like it has been the last two years...
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Postby Vlad G Pohnert » Sun Sep 01, 2002 3:20 pm

iserlohn wrote:Not to sound too much like a troll, but...

Isn't this AWA anyways? It's not like AWA is known for its guests (perusing fansview I didn't see an overt link to anything J-GOH related) and it sure as hell isn't friendly to the cosplay...it just seems to be the big AMV con to begin with. Why not go all the way and kill everything else from the convention?


From what I know, the video Arts Track is still a small part of AWA. It's only one room and it's limited to how much can be done there. The convention is much bigger than that....

I am more thinking on the line of many rooms and events at the same time without having to be restricted by what the rest of the con gives you in space and time. Everything I've seen so far is alway relays on what the con commitee give it...

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